In my experience, something that automatic can't make amazing espresso/coffee. Then again, standards for amazing will vary person to person.
Those are definitely nice machines though.
-Mike
The Jura is a nice one, for sure. It tops loads fresh, un-ground beans and, depending on which brew you choose, will grind and press a specific portion for the size you choose. Compared to many of the coffee houses in the RI/ southeastern MA area, it churns out some very smooth and tasty espresso ... but then again, I'm pretty easy to please
