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Barber Linden EQ • New small form factor

#202
I'm not sure if this has been already asked, but I wonder if the Linden pedal can work straight into the Line in or FX return of an amplifier and have enough juice to feed it?
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I heavily doubt that, since I tried to run mine straight into my mixer and the output volume wasn't sufficient, even with the volume knob on the pedal maxed, as well as channel volume and monitors.
I guess it's "just" an EQ and not a preamp?
Anyway, I have a new project incoming involving some classic Motown stuff and I'm sure the tones from this pedal would be REALLY appropriate for that kind of music, as well as a P w/flats.
 
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Some amplifiers seem to automatically max their output volume as soon as you bypass their EQ section, connecting a pedal into their line in, or FX return. Volume knob on the amp doesn't work anymore, it's just cranked. I remember an old Fender bass amp behaving exactly like this. I guess your amp works like that?
I must try my Linden into some different amps to see how it works, of course.
 
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I dont know, but on this TE I always bypass EQ (there is switch for that) and all other features (preshape, compressor) and go only gain-volume. When I put cable in FX return, only volume knob works, obviously.
 
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Hypercaffium said:
Some amplifiers seem to automatically max their output volume as soon as you bypass their EQ section, connecting a pedal into their line in, or FX return. Volume knob on the amp doesn't work anymore, it's just cranked. I remember an old Fender bass amp behaving exactly like this. I guess your amp works like that?
I must try my Linden into some different amps to see how it works, of course.
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Mine is loud as can be through the effects return on my Hartke LH1000.
 
#208
SteveBassJr said:
Okay Gas has got me, I am interested in the Linden. Right now I am using an Empress para eq. The attractive thing about the Linden is form factor. Not sure if it will be better then my empress tho... Anyone compare?
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I've owned the ParaEq two different times. While it's a great pedal and super useful for utility EQ fixing....I found myself constantly trying to tweak it and it wasn't particularly easy to dial in for general tone shaping. It also felt a bit sterile to me - never added any character (which is a good or bad thing depending on what you're going for).

The Linden is kind of the opposite. While it does have a bunch of toggle options, etc., it's super easy to dial in and you just get great tone from it with every setting. Even flat, it seems to add a bit of clarity to my attack (maybe a slight upper mid hump?) - but I guess it may never be truly flat because of what the toggles are doing.

Basically, I'd say the Linden is a great early chain pedal to enhance your tone and provide the ability to make simple adjustments that are still going to sound wonderful no matter how you adjust. The Empress is a great end of line pedal to use for utility fixing of troublesome frequencies without really altering the character of your tone at all.
 
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Eadger said:
I've owned the ParaEq two different times. While it's a great pedal and super useful for utility EQ fixing....I found myself constantly trying to tweak it and it wasn't particularly easy to dial in for general tone shaping. It also felt a bit sterile to me - never added any character (which is a good or bad thing depending on what you're going for).

The Linden is kind of the opposite. While it does have a bunch of toggle options, etc., it's super easy to dial in and you just get great tone from it with every setting. Even flat, it seems to add a bit of clarity to my attack (maybe a slight upper mid hump?) - but I guess it may never be truly flat because of what the toggles are doing.

Basically, I'd say the Linden is a great early chain pedal to enhance your tone and provide the ability to make simple adjustments that are still going to sound wonderful no matter how you adjust. The Empress is a great end of line pedal to use for utility fixing of troublesome frequencies without really altering the character of your tone at all.
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Thank you so much! That's what I needed to know. Now it's time for a bigger board!
 
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Eadger said:
Even flat, it seems to add a bit of clarity to my attack (maybe a slight upper mid hump?)
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You're hearing it right I think. With the switches to the left, and all controls at 12:00, it's like a shelving filter. Frequencies above ~800Hz are about 4db higher than those below ~200Hz, with a gentle slope in between.
The Catalinbread SFT sounds the same, which makes sense - they're both based on the same tone stack. I don't know if it's a B15-specific thing, or the same for any Baxandall (James?) circuit.
One other thing they have in common is that they don't like going into a low-impedance input. If you're connecting a Linden to an audio interface or mixer, it'll sound a lot better if there's a high-Z switch you can engage - just as if you were plugging your bass directly in.
 
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SteveBassJr said:
I bought one today. I'm hoping it will be here Monday. Lets see how it plays with my Broughton toys. Sv-pre SD chain
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Don’t suppose you have one of his Low + High Pass pedals? I’m curious to know how a Linden plays with one of those. I like running my Linden with bass knob set a hair over 3 o’clock, followed by a passive hpf. But my hpf is only -6db, I think the Broughton one is -12b.
 
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I just put mine up for sale on reverb. I’ve only had it for a month. I was initially impressed with it, but it never won a spot onto my board. And today I was playing with with all the settings and the one that sounded the best was ‘off.’ It’s a pretty subtle EQ for a bass that already achieves good tone. It’s a fine pedal, it just didn’t work for me.
 
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flatwound62p said:
Don’t suppose you have one of his Low + High Pass pedals? I’m curious to know how a Linden plays with one of those. I like running my Linden with bass knob set a hair over 3 o’clock, followed by a passive hpf. But my hpf is only -6db, I think the Broughton one is -12b.
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I do have the broughton hpf. I usually run that first in my chain then, into a Smoothie comp. I am thinking of putting the Eq after that.
 
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aekisz said:
I just put mine up for sale on reverb. I’ve only had it for a month. I was initially impressed with it, but it never won a spot onto my board. And today I was playing with with all the settings and the one that sounded the best was ‘off.’ It’s a pretty subtle EQ for a bass that already achieves good tone. It’s a fine pedal, it just didn’t work for me.
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Doesn’t surprise me. Mine works quite nicely with everything I have except for a certain JB with flats. Those two simply don’t want to get along. So I could see where there’s the occasional pairing that just doesn’t work for someone.
 
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40Hz said:
I’m curious about why you have the HPF first in your chain. Could you share your thinking on why you put it there? :)
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Hi 40Hz, Because Stumbo said it's a nice place to hang out, lol. I have tried it in many spots. I like to filter down my direct sound straight from my Bass. Catch it right at the source. That way the frequencies will not trigger the compression to soon. I run my Hpf at 24 volts, it gives me a hot signal to work with.
I use to run it last, after my preamp. But, I use a Shaw Tube injection. The signal from the Shaw was to hot and would create some distortion issues with the Hpf.
 
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SteveBassJr said:
Hi 40Hz, Because Stumbo said it's a nice place to hang out, lol. I have tried it in many spots. I like to filter down my direct sound straight from my Bass. Catch it right at the source. That way the frequencies will not trigger the compression to soon. I run my Hpf at 24 volts, it gives me a hot signal to work with.
I use to run it last, after my preamp. But, I use a Shaw Tube injection. The signal from the Shaw was to hot and would create some distortion issues with the Hpf.
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Hey Steve! Thanks for getting back.

I figured it might have been something like that. I’ll occasionally put one first if an active 5-string bass is slamming whatever comes after it with too much bottom end. Or to improve tracking on an old analog octave pedal I have. Or occasionally to provide some clean umph to drive an effects loop. (I’m guessing yours is a Broughton since you mentioned running it at 24V?)

So thanks again! I’m always interested in what others here are doing gear-wise. Learned a lot about a lot doing that. :)
 
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40Hz said:
Hey Steve! Thanks for getting back.

I figured it might have been something like that. I’ll occasionally put one first if an active 5-string bass is slamming whatever comes after it with too much bottom end. Or to improve tracking on an old analog octave pedal I have. Or occasionally to provide some clean umph to drive an effects loop. (I’m guessing yours is a Broughton since you mentioned running it at 24V?)

So thanks again! I’m always interested in what others here are doing gear-wise. Learned a lot about a lot doing that. :)
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Yeah bud, TalkBass has provided me with tons of helpful things. Solved problems I didn't know I had. And yes I am on the Broughton dream crushing club.
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