Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 12!!!)

[Mitchthebassplayer]

You know, hip-hop and rap (if I may combine the two... at least generally) has always been kind of a sore spot with me for a couple reasons... one, because it rarely has bass guitar (understandable tho... the synth tone is part of the deal), and two, because there's so much "angry" stuff out there, and while I understand where that comes from, I just personally don't find that entertaining.

I only bring this up because I REALLY dug this clip. REALLY dug it. I know it's not as traditional, but man, I so dig it with a bass guitar instead of a synth bass. Just seems SO much groovier and human, and even in my relatively uneducated opinion regarding this musical genre, sure seems to me that's what that music is really all about... not so much musical complexity, but just all about what you do with a fairly basic musical theme... expression... and how much more expressive can you get than a human playing a bass... IMHO, none.

Anyway, for whatever it's worth, that's the coolest clip for this musical style I've seen in a long time.

Thanks for the compliment Vic! I've only been doing the hip-hop thing for a few years now, but what really drew me in was the simplicity of it, and how difficult it is to really craft a great, meaningful, simple bass line that grooves, but doesn't say too much....it's a LOT harder than you think! Especially in the studio....hip-hop teaches you it's not always about what you don't play and how to hold back for the sake of the song....I do love the sound of a synth bass in hip-hop and that's always the sound I try to emulate when I play but I agree, there's nothing like having a live bass player making it happen and I guess many other producers agree otherwise I'd be out of work! haha....

if you liked that video, there are a bunch of others on my website:
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[Vic]

Thanks for the compliment Vic! I've only been doing the hip-hop thing for a few years now, but what really drew me in was the simplicity of it, and how difficult it is to really craft a great, meaningful, simple bass line that grooves, but doesn't say too much....it's a LOT harder than you think! Especially in the studio....hip-hop teaches you it's not always about what you don't play and how to hold back for the sake of the song....I do love the sound of a synth bass in hip-hop and that's always the sound I try to emulate when I play but I agree, there's nothing like having a live bass player making it happen and I guess many other producers agree otherwise I'd be out of work! haha....

Believe it or not, I TOTALLY get what you're saying. I play some worship settings and really, in a funny kinda' way, the same rules apply. It's all about generating power and groove without using tons of notes to get the job done. Nuance is KING. This is exactly where my tagline comes from.

if you liked that video, there are a bunch of others on my website:
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Thanks. Diggin'em now.

 

[peterpalmieri]

Hey guys!

First I've got to say how cool it is to have so many 5 string P and J basses available to us. Following the Nordy 5 review thread, Sadowsky and so many others...I'm so glad I've settled on the ACs but man if I hadn't there are so many great basses floating around these days.

The audition went well last night, mostly all originals. A lot of linear stuff going on not so much changes that can be simply charted out to jam to. Very tedious but a lot of fun material, the keyboard player is writing mostly everything and is very talented and the singer is just unreal. Hopefully I will get to make a recording of a rehearsal sometime soon. At this point we've made plans to get together again next week. It's about half upright and half electric, just what I'm hoping for.

 

[Chef]

sweet!

 

[peterpalmieri]

I don't have You Tube access on the work computer but if you search "Erinn Furey" you will find an audio of Haiti Song - Isle of Hope. Gives you decent idea of her voice although this material is very different from that.

EDIT: I think this may work...

Check out this video on YouTube:

 

[tombowlus]

My LG4 Classic just arrived! Hopefully, I will be able to snap some pics tonight.

Oh, and Jimmy is talking to Hipshot for me about getting a matching D-tuner.

 

[Mitchthebassplayer]

I don't have You Tube access on the work computer but if you search "Erinn Furey" you will find an audio of Haiti Song - Isle of Hope. Gives you decent idea of her voice although this material is very different from that.

EDIT: I think this may work...

Check out this video on YouTube:

Dope! Nice voice! Half upright half electric gig would have been my dream gig....enjoy it dude

 

[tombowlus]

Well, I was able to spend some time with my new (to me) LG4 Classic last night, and without a doubt, this is the bass I was looking for! That LM4 Deluxe I had was amazing, and if I were after an(other) ash/maple J-bass, I would have kept it for sure. But I'm super into the alder/rosewood thing right now (at least in a J-bass configuration), and this bass just kills! The playability is really off the hook, too, and the setup is spot-on.

Here are some more pics:

I had my '73 Jazz sitting right there, and these two killer Ampeg stacks (the full-on Heritage SVT stack, plus my '74 SVT atop a Vietnam SVT-810E - which sounds great, by the way!), so I couldn't resist taking this shot:

The neck/headstock actually has some nice figuring going on, including some flaming and some birdseye:

I am definitely a happy camper!

Tom.

 

[KJung]

Nice! These LG's really do sing, and I LOVE the sound of the stock Indian RW board on mine (I believe that is what you have), and the Nitro finish and retro bridge just finishes the package!

 

[Chef]

sweeeeeeeeet....

 

[tombowlus]

Nice! These LG's really do sing, and I LOVE the sound of the stock Indian RW board on mine (I believe that is what you have), and the Nitro finish and retro bridge just finishes the package!

Yes, this LG4 Classic has the Indian rosewood board and the nitro finish (which I really like, especially the feel of the neck). It sounds very authentic in passive mode, and switching to active gives a bit of that buffering effect (tighter lows, snappier highs), which also sounds good. The preamp, of course, gives you two bands of "steroids" to layer on top, but that alder/rosewood richness always remains. Hella cool!

 

[KJung]

Yes, this LG4 Classic has the Indian rosewood board and the nitro finish (which I really like, especially the feel of the neck). It sounds very authentic in passive mode, and switching to active gives a bit of that buffering effect (tighter lows, snappier highs), which also sounds good. The preamp, of course, gives you two bands of "steroids" to layer on top, but that alder/rosewood richness always remains. Hella cool!

1+ I actually often run my LG passive... it just sounds SO legit that way, and as you say, engaging the preamp just provides a nice amount of buffering to 'modern it up' just a smidge.

I'm actually going to have my push/pull bypass switch changed around so that the default is passive. My LM is all about the active thing, but the LG just seems to shine in passive mode.

 

[Chef]

Huh...I'm not sure I ever tried my LG in passive, other than to just briefly note "that sounds really, really similar to repam all the way off" and never mess with it again.

I may want to revisit that.

 

[KJung]

Huh...I'm not sure I ever tried my LG in passive, other than to just briefly note "that sounds really, really similar to repam all the way off" and never mess with it again.

I may want to revisit that.

Removing that buffering (any preamp will buffer the signal) just brings out a bit more of upper mid roughness, brings in the low end a bit, and results in the upper treble to be reduced. Of course, I don't want any of those things on a 70's style bass (IMO), but on a more 'classic vintage 60s' spec, it really moves the LG back to 1965 or whatever.

Since Jimmy's pre is SO transparent with the bass and treble flat, engaging the pre pretty much does the same thing as that 'Redeemer' thing... pure buffering with very little added tonal change. However, the buffering really does change the nature of the thing, and does remove some of that gruntiness that you get from the pickup loading, etc.

 

[Vic]

Well, I was able to spend some time with my new (to me) LG4 Classic last night, and without a doubt, this is the bass I was looking for! That LM4 Deluxe I had was amazing, and if I were after an(other) ash/maple J-bass, I would have kept it for sure. But I'm super into the alder/rosewood thing right now (at least in a J-bass configuration), and this bass just kills! The playability is really off the hook, too, and the setup is spot-on.

Yeah, you're totally right. LM's suck and LG's rule!



Ken, you gonna' take that from Tom???

 

[Chef]

cool
sounds like my kind of experiment.

 

[Chef]

bomb dropper...

Yeah, you're totally right. LM's suck, and LG's rule!

 

[Vic]

Yes, this LG4 Classic has the Indian rosewood board and the nitro finish (which I really like, especially the feel of the neck). It sounds very authentic in passive mode, and switching to active gives a bit of that buffering effect (tighter lows, snappier highs), which also sounds good. The preamp, of course, gives you two bands of "steroids" to layer on top, but that alder/rosewood richness always remains. Hella cool!

Can't recall, but is that actually a Classic Supreme since it has the bent plate and nitro?

 

[KJung]

Yeah, you're totally right. LM's suck and LG's rule!



Ken, you gonna' take that from Tom???

Hey, the right tool for the right player! If I was doing the kind of music Tom plays, my LG would be out every night!

 

[Vic]

Huh...I'm not sure I ever tried my LG in passive, other than to just briefly note "that sounds really, really similar to repam all the way off" and never mess with it again.

I may want to revisit that.

WHAT???

Oh dude... I admit I mostly play it with the preamp engaged, tho generally with little/no EQ, BUT, I've definitely played it at gigs passively, and like Tom and Ken say, it is SO legit! Especially with your taste for the classics, you definitely need to check that out!