Custom DIY 2x15 cab build

[johnk_10]

The 3015's seem to have a bassier tone than the Faitals in that clip.

yep, they're definitely alot darker than the faitals, although
i think that both drivers have the same amount of bass.

 

[John D]

Faitals get my money! Nice cabs and nice playing.

 

[majortoby]

Hate to be a pain, but you could you maybe post clips of those cabs with the ports blocked? Please?

 

[majortoby]

And yeah, those both sound absolutely stellar...nice work all the way around, man.

 

[3rdcurve]

Sound great, still think I might be leaning toward the 3015s!

 

[majortoby]

IDK. It almost sounds like the Faitals do everything the 3015 does, plus more. But the really important question remains. Which is t3h loud3rz?! lol

 

[ScottTunes]

Upper mids sound more up front from the Faitals... Might be the perfect match with the RH450.

 

[3rdcurve]

3015s just sound thicker to me

edit:

After listening through some quality headphones it seems that the Faitals are pretty even top to bottom whereas the eminence have more low mid presence. From the modeling, I would say that the Faitals would not take all the streamliner can dish out but the eminence should.

 

[majortoby]

Thank-you sir. So, it could be said in short, that the 3015's, although less seemingly "even", will be comfortable producing significantly higher spls than the faitals?

 

[3rdcurve]

Thank-you sir. So, it could be said in short, that the 3015's, although less seemingly "even", will be comfortable producing significantly higher spls than the faitals?

That would be my assumption, but the man with the cabs could tell us for sure.

 

[majortoby]

hahaha, I'm just trying to establish which design I'm going to steal for myself >....lmao JK

 

[funkytoe]

Hi John. Those clips are great. Classic Cream. Very nice playing.

As for tone, both sound great to me. But if I had to choose, I think I prefer the Faitals. The lower and middle registers just sounded "right" to me. A little more vintage sounding. I would give the nod to the 3015's on the higher runs though. The Faitals came on a little too strong for me when you went up high. I thought the 3015's had a more pleasing transition up top. But I would be happy to gig either cab. Nice work -- as always!

 

[johnk_10]

After listening through some quality headphones it seems that the Faitals are pretty even top to bottom whereas the eminence have more low mid presence. From the modeling, I would say that the Faitals would not take all the streamliner can dish out but the eminence should.

i think that they are both capable of what the ST900 can dish out, and IME, if you push the drivers into distortion, the Faitals distort a little earlier, but do it more gracefully than the 3015's.

 

[JimmyM]

That Faital has the brightest 4k response I ever heard in a speaker with 4k response. I think Faital does that speaker a disservice by saying it tops out at 4k. The chart on it says it tops out at 5k on axis but 4k 45 degrees off axis. Meanwhile, if you're going to stick a mic in front of it, that's what counts IMHO.

I'll tell you, there are things I like about both speakers. They do sound like they have the same low end through headphones, but the Faital's clearly brighter and a little less upper middy. If I had to choose one, I'd go with the Faitals but I could find a reason to have both.

So is it just my imagination or do these cabs sound tighter and cleaner than cabs with ceramics? What's your impression of them vs your ported 15's with the different JBL's?

 

[johnk_10]

while i love my JBL K140's, the faitals are quickly becoming one of my favorite 15's of all time. i prefer a speaker that when you plug into it, immediately there are no surprises other than it just sounds great.

 

[parapentep70]

I've been following this thread with interest.

I have not seen before such a good "Real Science" dedicated to bass cabinets. I mean good combination of theory and effort (and money) in balanced experiments genuinely seeking the best sound under certain restrictions (full range 15's).

Without prejudices, without trying to prove certain preconceived ideas are true.
Very good stuff.

And very usefull to me, I know 3015's with approximately same volume and tuning, so I can get a good idea of how Faitals and 140's and AL dust caps and closed ports will sound respect to my boxes.

Thanks!

 

[OldogNewTrick]

here's two new clips of the cabs.

3015 - sounds solo a bit more pleasing to me. I'm not a great fan of that 1k region.
However I expect the PR400 with its more present upper mids to be the better cab in a mix.... still, I would happily take either of them

 

[3rdcurve]

i think that they are both capable of what the ST900 can dish out, and IME, if you push the drivers into distortion, the Faitals distort a little earlier, but do it more gracefully than the 3015's.

You are gonna sell me on the faitals yet.

 

[johnk_10]

Hate to be a pain, but you could you maybe post clips of those cabs with the ports blocked? Please?

i might be able to this coming week.
right now the second one is waiting for the herculiner to dry and the first one with the 15PR400's is already on the stage for its maiden gig tonight.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Now you got me thinking, why choose between the two speakers? Why not one 3015 and one Faital in the same cabinet?

As I recall, the mounting holes are not the same so trying this might be a problem.