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Damnation Audio Fan/Appreciation Thread

I had a brief time with my Bloop this afternoon. What a simple, clever, and effective device. Once I became familiar, my head flooded with questions. @father of fires I assume the choice of 1K for the LPF was not reached lightly or frivolously. Why not 600Hz, or 200Hz? Something about lower frequencies you didn’t like? We’re they hideous or just not quite as sweet? Why do I ask? Because I experienced a strong desire to hear what a three way toggle, that switched between 1K, 600Hz, and 200Hz would sound like.
Is this mod even possible? Would you consider it? Or should I just relax and enjoy what I’ve got.
 
I had a brief time with my Bloop this afternoon. What a simple, clever, and effective device. Once I became familiar, my head flooded with questions. @father of fires I assume the choice of 1K for the LPF was not reached lightly or frivolously. Why not 600Hz, or 200Hz? Something about lower frequencies you didn’t like? We’re they hideous or just not quite as sweet? Why do I ask? Because I experienced a strong desire to hear what a three way toggle, that switched between 1K, 600Hz, and 200Hz would sound like.
Is this mod even possible? Would you consider it? Or should I just relax and enjoy what I’ve got.

Oh good idea.....if it was possible.
 
I had a brief time with my Bloop this afternoon. What a simple, clever, and effective device. Once I became familiar, my head flooded with questions. @father of fires I assume the choice of 1K for the LPF was not reached lightly or frivolously. Why not 600Hz, or 200Hz? Something about lower frequencies you didn’t like? We’re they hideous or just not quite as sweet? Why do I ask? Because I experienced a strong desire to hear what a three way toggle, that switched between 1K, 600Hz, and 200Hz would sound like.
Is this mod even possible? Would you consider it? Or should I just relax and enjoy what I’ve got.

Cool idea, I'll also add it would be cool if the knob went from no Bloopness to full Bloopness or 11. There's a million cool mods for that pedal. I vote for a Bloop deluxe!
 
I had a brief time with my Bloop this afternoon. What a simple, clever, and effective device. Once I became familiar, my head flooded with questions. @father of fires I assume the choice of 1K for the LPF was not reached lightly or frivolously. Why not 600Hz, or 200Hz? Something about lower frequencies you didn’t like? We’re they hideous or just not quite as sweet? Why do I ask? Because I experienced a strong desire to hear what a three way toggle, that switched between 1K, 600Hz, and 200Hz would sound like.
Is this mod even possible? Would you consider it? Or should I just relax and enjoy what I’ve got.

I subscribe to the KISS method for most things. There could be the choice of any frequency and for that matter why limit it to low passing. What about boosting the clean signal at 100Hz. Or what about a switch to make the clean fuzzy.

Every idea has crossed my mind but the design as is is good enough.

I chose the frequency because it's what was in the MBD and the original customer wanted the same frequency.

Why we use that frequency in the MBD is because to my ears it's just before any annoying "clackyness" you get with upper mids and highs.

I wanted that gone from the clean signal and I wanted the dirty signal to compress and sustain those clacky frequencies.

It was an entirely personal design that was good enough for others.

I won't say no to a modded Loop Blender in the future but the current format doesn't have the room for it.

Thanks!
 
I subscribe to the KISS method for most things. There could be the choice of any frequency and for that matter why limit it to low passing. What about boosting the clean signal at 100Hz. Or what about a switch to make the clean fuzzy.

Every idea has crossed my mind but the design as is is good enough.

I chose the frequency because it's what was in the MBD and the original customer wanted the same frequency.

Why we use that frequency in the MBD is because to my ears it's just before any annoying "clackyness" you get with upper mids and highs.

I wanted that gone from the clean signal and I wanted the dirty signal to compress and sustain those clacky frequencies.

It was an entirely personal design that was good enough for others.

I won't say no to a modded Loop Blender in the future but the current format doesn't have the room for it.

Thanks!

yeah if there were no limits, I'd want that one mod I was referring to in an old post where you have 2 knobs, one to blend the clean and one for loop. And then that added switch @jbybj was talking about.

But I know the pedal would have to be twice the size. Plus, I'm still very happy with it as is.
 
I chose the frequency because it's what was in the MBD and the original customer wanted the same frequency.

Why we use that frequency in the MBD is because to my ears it's just before any annoying "clackyness" you get with upper mids and highs.

I see both sides of the coin here. More options can be useful, but will add to complexity and cost.

I was a kitchen sink guy for awhile -- that included fully parametric equalizers. I'm mostly KISS these days, because I realized can get OCD when I have so much tweakability at my fingertips. Tangential example would be multiband distortion: the dual filter sweeps on the Darkglass X7 are incredibly powerful, but I also appreciate the relative ease of the Tech 21 DP-3X with its fixed filter frequencies.

As the software development cliché goes, "better is the enemy of good enough". I can totally understand the desire for a Clean band filter switch (or knob), or a dozen other possible feature additions, but no pedal will please everyone, and at some point the designer has to say "good enough". The MBD-1 definitely hits my Goldilocks zone.
 
I see both sides of the coin here. More options can be useful, but will add to complexity and cost.

I was a kitchen sink guy for awhile -- that included fully parametric equalizers. I'm mostly KISS these days, because I realized can get OCD when I have so much tweakability at my fingertips. Tangential example would be multiband distortion: the dual filter sweeps on the Darkglass X7 are incredibly powerful, but I also appreciate the relative ease of the Tech 21 DP-3X with its fixed filter frequencies.

As the software development cliché goes, "better is the enemy of good enough". I can totally understand the desire for a Clean band filter switch (or knob), or a dozen other possible feature additions, but no pedal will please everyone, and at some point the designer has to say "good enough". The MBD-1 definitely hits my Goldilocks zone.

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The picture says it all :roflmao:
 
I subscribe to the KISS method for most things. There could be the choice of any frequency and for that matter why limit it to low passing. What about boosting the clean signal at 100Hz. Or what about a switch to make the clean fuzzy.

Every idea has crossed my mind but the design as is is good enough.

I chose the frequency because it's what was in the MBD and the original customer wanted the same frequency.

Why we use that frequency in the MBD is because to my ears it's just before any annoying "clackyness" you get with upper mids and highs.

I wanted that gone from the clean signal and I wanted the dirty signal to compress and sustain those clacky frequencies.

It was an entirely personal design that was good enough for others.

I won't say no to a modded Loop Blender in the future but the current format doesn't have the room for it.

Thanks!
Thank you. It wasn’t my intent to doubt your choices, I was simply curious. You see, in the mind of someone like myself, who doesn’t truly understand what you do, on an electronic design level, I fantasize about possible answers to my questions. For instance, what if you had said, “sure, just use this switch, solder these caps here, and insert it here in the circuit. Easy peasy”.
I’d be like, “woah, so glad I asked”.
As I said, my knowledge base has gaps.

I did do some comparisons with my Mosquite Blender. I noticed an improvement in the way the Bloop feels more integrated with the distorted loop signal, but my favorite difference is in the controls. I much prefer the way the Bloop mixes the blend over the pan pot of the Mosquite. The Bloop is going on my gig board to get a proper indoctrination.
 
Thank you. It wasn’t my intent to doubt your choices, I was simply curious. You see, in the mind of someone like myself, who doesn’t truly understand what you do, on an electronic design level, I fantasize about possible answers to my questions. For instance, what if you had said, “sure, just use this switch, solder these caps here, and insert it here in the circuit. Easy peasy”.
I’d be like, “woah, so glad I asked”.
As I said, my knowledge base has gaps.

I did do some comparisons with my Mosquite Blender. I noticed an improvement in the way the Bloop feels more integrated with the distorted loop signal, but my favorite difference is in the controls. I much prefer the way the Bloop mixes the blend over the pan pot of the Mosquite. The Bloop is going on my gig board to get a proper indoctrination.

I didn't mean to come off dismissive and if I did I apologize. I would like to officially say that yes it could be modded and it would work decently at different frquencies. What I was trying to get across is that it's so hard to know what will work for individual players and their rigs so I was trying to explain my philosophy and how I have made peace with designing something that might appear limited at face value.

To be honest the mods I'm most excited to try on the Bloop are ones no one has ever asked for so I don't know if its worth the effort of a redesign. Not too mention I've sold 80 (which is mind blowing for such a simple design) and so I became too cocky and I went ahead about bought enough parts to build 100 more. So I need to keep things as is for the next while.
 
I did do some comparisons with my Mosquite Blender. I noticed an improvement in the way the Bloop feels more integrated with the distorted loop signal, but my favorite difference is in the controls. I much prefer the way the Bloop mixes the blend over the pan pot of the Mosquite. The Bloop is going on my gig board to get a proper indoctrination.

Crap... I figured my Mosquite was close enough to a Bloop that I could get away without buying one.

Can you elaborate on the differences you heard a little more, please ?

thanks
 
Crap... I figured my Mosquite was close enough to a Bloop that I could get away without buying one.

Can you elaborate on the differences you heard a little more, please ?

thanks
As has been noted before, when you apply an LPF to the dry blend, you lose that sensation of two voices, and it becomes one beefy, distorted voice.

It’s the gain staging and mix method of the Bloop that I’m just beginning to see how awesome it is. The pedal in the loop is always at unity, and the Blend is piling on to that level, additive. It puts the looped pedal at the forefront, always fully there. I like that. I also like that with the blend up, loop pedal off, when you engage the Bloop it’s a really cool low freq boost.
I will get a much better feel for it after Saturday’s rehearsal.
 
Yeah the bloop is pretty sweet. It gives life to pedals that I rendered unusable. I’m still blown away by the MBD honestly. Im such a pedal junkie. I fly through pedals and it’s rare to find something that holds my attention for more than a month or two. When a single pedal continues to crush the competition that I consistently bring in, it’s impressive. I’ve had my MBD over a year and it hasn’t had anything bump it off my board for even a moment. It’s just so badass.