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#37,523
EMoneySC2 said:
Please stay out of Reverb for 1 more week, y'all :banghead:

I'm going to be buying a new Dingwall sometime soon, just TBD on which Dingwall. Either a Combustion, an ABZ, or maybe even a Z3 :help:
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Figured now isn't the time to be going too big with purchases ... so picked up a nice looking Combustion 6 in Whalepool Blue. That'll do the trick :thumbsup:
 
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#37,525
geggy spoiger said:
Back in after almost a decade!

Crazy nice instrument.

Huge props to John @xnewyorka for his stellar communication, sincerity, and willingness to help out above and beyond!

www.JohnFoxBass.com for one of the nicest dealers out there!

I can’t stop staring at this specimen of a Z2 lordy *phew* just gorgeous.


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Wow. What a top on that Z2. Congrats on that stunning bass. Yes, John is da Man!
 
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Status report after getting my Payson strings installed and the Dingwall finally set up.
E-G strings sound great, lively, like a good SS string should!
But my low B, tuned just a step down to A, kind of "chuffs" when I hit the string now, both open and fretted. I had a set of regular gauge .125 Dingwall strings on there just messing around before (it came in standard E tuning) and even a step down that string sounded fine, even without a true 'setup'. I'm wondering if the tension for this particular string and tension, etc. is too much at .135, but it doesn't seem like it would be. Never had this issue really with Kalium Strings, even at a heavier gauge. And what I mean by "chuff" is there isn't very clear note definition compared to the other 4 strings. My tech has been doing my gear for years and does great work so I don't think it's an install issue, but just wondering if others have had this same issue. I may need to order a .130 or .125 from them and see if that makes any difference. They definitely have more tension and tightness (but not in a bad way) compared to the Kalium hybrids I'm used to playing.

Any thoughts/suggestions here?
 
#37,527
spector_boogie said:
Status report after getting my Payson strings installed and the Dingwall finally set up.
E-G strings sound great, lively, like a good SS string should!
But my low B, tuned just a step down to A, kind of "chuffs" when I hit the string now, both open and fretted. I had a set of regular gauge .125 Dingwall strings on there just messing around before (it came in standard E tuning) and even a step down that string sounded fine, even without a true 'setup'. I'm wondering if the tension for this particular string and tension, etc. is too much at .135, but it doesn't seem like it would be. Never had this issue really with Kalium Strings, even at a heavier gauge. And what I mean by "chuff" is there isn't very clear note definition compared to the other 4 strings. My tech has been doing my gear for years and does great work so I don't think it's an install issue, but just wondering if others have had this same issue. I may need to order a .130 or .125 from them and see if that makes any difference. They definitely have more tension and tightness (but not in a bad way) compared to the Kalium hybrids I'm used to playing.

Any thoughts/suggestions here?
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For drop A I recommend our .145T.
 
#37,529
spector_boogie said:
I think that would exacerbate the problem- when I had a lower gauge string installed, I didn't have this issue and had much better note definition, even tuned a step down to A, without a true setup/intonation.
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Well, color me confused on that. Conventional wisdom for low tunings is you need thicker gauge strings to get clearer sound, not the opposite. That's because there's a sweet spot for string tension as it relates to what you hear - for me it's around 40lbs. A 0.130 gauge string at 37" scale tuned to B sits at 42lbs, where tuned to A it sits at 33lbs.

There's a lot of room for personal preference here, so there's no wrong answer. You just may prefer the sound of lighter gauges and lower tension.
 
#37,530
spector_boogie said:
I think that would exacerbate the problem- when I had a lower gauge string installed, I didn't have this issue and had much better note definition, even tuned a step down to A, without a true setup/intonation.
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I did receive a bad B string one time. I compared it against the old string and on another bass and it was definitely just a defective string. Could this “B” the case?

“Chuff” was probably a good term for how the string sounded
 
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#37,533
spector_boogie said:
I think that would exacerbate the problem- when I had a lower gauge string installed, I didn't have this issue and had much better note definition, even tuned a step down to A, without a true setup/intonation.
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Our .145T would solve your issue imho. It’s designed for drop A.
I get that some players might not like the feel of larger gauge strings under the fingers.
Our .145T does not feel that much bigger under the fingers. Matter of fact I was using one for a while tuned up to B.
 
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EMoneySC2 said:
Well, color me confused on that. Conventional wisdom for low tunings is you need thicker gauge strings to get clearer sound, not the opposite. That's because there's a sweet spot for string tension as it relates to what you hear - for me it's around 40lbs. A 0.130 gauge string at 37" scale tuned to B sits at 42lbs, where tuned to A it sits at 33lbs.

There's a lot of room for personal preference here, so there's no wrong answer. You just may prefer the sound of lighter gauges and lower tension.
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I totally agree with you- on my prior Kalium sets, my low B (tuned to A) were I think a .142 but felt much 'looser' due to their composition. This particular string is a .135, so feels normal, it just sounds 'off'.
As a few of you said below this post, it may be a dead string. I have an extra set of these same strings. I will throw that on this week and test it out, and then at least I'll know. I haven't had many dead strings new from box, but I have had them, and now that I think about it, this is what it sounds like. Will report back. Again, E-G sound and feel fantastic.
 
#37,535
Blues Cat said:
Our .145T would solve your issue imho. It’s designed for drop A.
I get that some players might not like the feel of larger gauge strings under the fingers.
Our .145T does not feel that much bigger under the fingers. Matter of fact I was using one for a while tuned up to B.
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Let me swap it out for the extra set of strings I ordered from you, and see how it fares. If it's the individual string, I'll leave as-is.
If it still happens, I'll maybe try a single .145 and see how that goes.
Do you offer anything between .135 and .145?
 
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spector_boogie said:
I totally agree with you- on my prior Kalium sets, my low B (tuned to A) were I think a .142 but felt much 'looser' due to their composition. This particular string is a .135, so feels normal, it just sounds 'off'.
As a few of you said below this post, it may be a dead string. I have an extra set of these same strings. I will throw that on this week and test it out, and then at least I'll know. I haven't had many dead strings new from box, but I have had them, and now that I think about it, this is what it sounds like. Will report back. Again, E-G sound and feel fantastic.
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tThe manufacturer was awesome about it and replaced the string on the one I had about a year ago.

In the not to distant past I grabbed a set of medium scale strings from the local l and m and low and behold the B in the pack was a long scale. Again, the manufacturer replaced no problem it happens from time to time.
 
#37,539
spector_boogie said:
Let me swap it out for the extra set of strings I ordered from you, and see how it fares. If it's the individual string, I'll leave as-is.
If it still happens, I'll maybe try a single .145 and see how that goes.
Do you offer anything between .135 and .145?
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We currently have the .145T and .130T. Nothing between that.

From my experience a bad string sounds rattly, like it’s playing through a mild distortion pedal.

You can always check for a twist in the string introduced during your tech’s set up: loosen string, pull the coiled string off the tuner post, it should remain pointing down. If it tries to point sideways or up, you gotta twist in the string. That will make the string sound dead.

You can reorientate the string by putting it back in the tuner post and recrimping the break angle over the saddle.
 
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Blues Cat said:
We currently have the .145T and .130T. Nothing between that.

From my experience a bad string sounds rattly, like it’s playing through a mild distortion pedal.

You can always check for a twist in the string introduced during your tech’s set up: loosen string, pull the coiled string off the tuner post, it should remain pointing down. If it tries to point sideways or up, you gotta twist in the string. That will make the string sound dead.

You can reorientate the string by putting it back in the tuner post and recrimping the break angle over the saddle.
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I was also going to mention this. When I get in a hurry switching strings this happens to me.

Also Dingwall saddles are pretty foolproof but make sure the string is seated well in the saddle. I've had strings off a little bit and sound really bad, re-seated them and they sound normal again.
 
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