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#59,502
Challanger2 said:
Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought the whole point of the fast lane was that the bass was assembled in the dingwall factory, but sent to other local shops to have the finish applied as the dingwall paint booth is the limiting factor in the process. Did I miss something there? That’s why I was suggesting adding additional finishes, as I thought it wouldn’t affect the dingwall factory side of things at all.
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SOMEONE is still having to do the finishing, and every time you change a color it's an involved process. Even just one color change adds significant amounts of time - it just happens to be adding it for a 3rd party in this case, but the time-cost is still there.

If you want some specific colors that the Fastlane doesn't yet offer, you'll just need to get in a custom order. I'm sure the color offerings will ebb and flow over time for Fastland, too, so I wouldn't get too invested in or upset over the current state.
 
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Selta said:
SOMEONE is still having to do the finishing, and every time you change a color it's an involved process. Even just one color change adds significant amounts of time - it just happens to be adding it for a 3rd party in this case, but the time-cost is still there.

If you want some specific colors that the Fastlane doesn't yet offer, you'll just need to get in a custom order. I'm sure the color offerings will ebb and flow over time for Fastland, too, so I wouldn't get too invested in or upset over the current state.
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I have to go custom order anyways as I’m 90% sure I want a wenge neck now. Just figured more colors would help the product sell more.
 
#59,507
I've been trying to figure out how long to cut the strings past the tuner on AB basses. I tried the B to E string tuner distance the last time I changed strings and that seems pretty close. But it's still a little longer than the strings are as shipped from the factory. It's close enough, but has anyone ever seen what they do to measure the length to cut on Canadian basses?
 
#59,508
MultiScaleMale said:
I've been trying to figure out how long to cut the strings past the tuner on AB basses. I tried the B to E string tuner distance the last time I changed strings and that seems pretty close. But it's still a little longer than the strings are as shipped from the factory. It's close enough, but has anyone ever seen what they do to measure the length to cut on Canadian basses?
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Either use a string as a template, or determine the amount of wraps you want around the post and do some math with the post circumferance.
 
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dazmond said:
Either use a string as a template, or determine the amount of wraps you want around the post and do some math with the post circumference.
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Of course, I tried that but there are curves in the string when you take it off the tuner and after the first set from the factory is off the bass, you can't get the "template" any longer. Sadowsky does two tuners past the tuning peg you're stringing up, so I thought maybe Dingwall does something similar. The Dingwall setup videos are for Combustion basses with different tuning peg wraps than the Canadian basses. Didn't know if anyone ever came across what they use at the factory. I did try to contact them earlier, but never heard back on that.
 
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gearhound22 said:
I’ve owned two nollys and one old school combustión like yours and the nollys are long gone.

Saying that I did a couple of mods on it. I believe before there were two volumes so I nuked that put in a single and a 4 way selector switch as well as a killswitch and Roland gk pickup but the selector switch made a big difference. I’ve got three customs too and that bass is just as loved even more sometimes.

I absolutely loathe maple fretboards too asthetically .... to my eyes they only suit a few basses
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Refinish?
 
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So far I've emailed a few dealers so guess nobody has the super fatty in a soapbar :(
 

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A 3/8 diamter shaft circumference is 1.178". So times 1.178 by number of wraps you want, then add your .375" (3/8) amount of string for the shaft slot starter length. Or however much extra string if you put it down into the tuner shaft hole, then start winding (is that illegal? I thought everyone did it...)
 

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#59,514
MultiScaleMale said:
I've been trying to figure out how long to cut the strings past the tuner on AB basses. I tried the B to E string tuner distance the last time I changed strings and that seems pretty close. But it's still a little longer than the strings are as shipped from the factory. It's close enough, but has anyone ever seen what they do to measure the length to cut on Canadian basses?
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I usually measure 1.5 tuning posts in length.
I don’t remember if that distance was either mentioned by Sheldon in a video or an email I sent him many years ago.
 
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#59,516
Selta said:
Oh, I guess I haven't really said yet. Too much going on!
I didn't go with Chad and Jeff. Don't get me wrong here at all, they're wonderful folks through and through. I'm glad I've done my orders through them that I have.
This time though, I've gone with John Fox Bass. There was a good bit of calculus that went into that decision, and honestly, each step of things for this has proven that for me and for this particular order, I made the best choice. John has stuck with me, explained a lot of things very thoroughly, is in constant contact with every update along the way, and helps navigate some unique challenges I posed very very well. He's also just plain a joy to talk to and has enough order experiences with Dingwall to really fine tune things and make it a smooth process.

So, I definitely recommend folks strongly consider JFB for orders.

On a tangent topic here (none of this below is a negative reflection on JFB in the least - in fact, JFB went way, way above and beyond in going to bat for me, helping me navigate a lot of this, and being a voice of calm and reason when we would get updates):

I also got wind that there's some changes to the order process, and seeing the price hike for 2024 (since I deposited way before the price hike, I got in on 2023 pricing), things are spicy for Dingwall Canadian orders now.

I do feel a little weird with some of the imposed changes... a smaller one, but an example of them, is that changing from the "standard" 3x rotary to a "DRoc" rotary on a Z3 slaps you with a $70 USD upcharge! That makes no sense to me as the customer. I can't imagine the switch itself being that much more expensive for Dingwall, and likewise I can't imagine how it changes the build time or workflow enough to have such an upcharge on it. I don't ever expect (or would even ask) Dingwall to justify themselves to me, but, that one really a shocker and even though it was only $70 (in the grand scheme of a many thousands bass, not meaningful), it stood out as... really out of place.

There's other options that now come baked-in with somewhat hidden upcharges too, particularly around finishes - I think a lot of folks won't hit them as they're opting for more cheaper or paint instead of stain finishes, but if you do end up hitting them, your cost for finish is significantly higher now (ex: my inlays are $850+ by themselves now. On bloodmoonZ, which has more complex inlays, they were $525, in late 2021).

Even for me, I think that if I wanted to go through the process again, I 1) can't afford to now with the nickle and diming, and price inccreases 2) don't enjoy the reduced options available, and 3) generally don't feel as good through the process. That last one will change once I have it in my hands of course, Dingwall's end products never disappoint at all. I know they're basically in "production hell" where the backlog is deep and growing, but I feel like the customer is the one taking the brunt / being punished of that with long waits and price increases, plus odd upcharges for not sticking strictly to the default options.

That all reads pretty critically, and I'm really hesitant to submit it on a public forum, to be honest. Some of it is still settling in, so it's still fresh/raw and a sensitive thing for me. I may be over reacting to it. At the same time, I also feel pretty strongly that things like the rotary up-charge are just odd and is worth some public knowledge on. I don't want to just be here throwing mud at them though - Sheldon and crew obviously know how to run their business, and who am I to sit here and try to tell them they're wrong.
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No apologies needed for a bit of venting. I too am surprised by having to pay $70 for the D-roc switch. There was no upcharge when I spec'd one in my last Afterburner build. They are a small company dealing successfully with huge demand, for sure. There could be worse problems. We could be inhabiting an alternate universe where Sheldon was never born and his creations never came to fruition... ;)
 
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MultiScaleMale said:
I've been trying to figure out how long to cut the strings past the tuner on AB basses. I tried the B to E string tuner distance the last time I changed strings and that seems pretty close. But it's still a little longer than the strings are as shipped from the factory. It's close enough, but has anyone ever seen what they do to measure the length to cut on Canadian basses?
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I eyeball about 2-2.5” past the peg. Never fail.

Disclaimer, I keep my windings short
 
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