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Dingwall Owners Club

I'm looking for a few opinions on a new Dingwall, I'm currently torn between an ABZ5 or blow all my tax rebate and getting a fancy Super P5.
My dilemma here is that I previously owned an ABZ5, which I loved, but had to sell as I moved from the UK to Canada so needed the cash at the time. I really like the 37" scale but I do prefer the looks of the Super P and J. So I guess what I'm asking is, is there any or much of a compromise with the shorter scale on the Super P5?
I'm based in Toronto so there isn't anywhere local I can check out a Super P to see if I'd get on with one.
Hopefully that makes sense, any opinions/advice would be greatly received.

Not sure how far from Markham you are (I live in BC, what can I say) but Long & McQuade is listed as a Dingwall dealer there. Not all L & M stores carry them unfortunately.
 
Thanks for the suggestion, Markham isn't that far, about an hour trip for me but I've spoken to them a couple of times and they have nothing n stock and no idea when something might come in and apparently could only order very specific models and colours.
I'm not sure if I just got someone useless but after the experience of talking to them on the phone I'll not be giving them any business.
 
I'm looking for a few opinions on a new Dingwall, I'm currently torn between an ABZ5 or blow all my tax rebate and getting a fancy Super P5.
My dilemma here is that I previously owned an ABZ5, which I loved, but had to sell as I moved from the UK to Canada so needed the cash at the time. I really like the 37" scale but I do prefer the looks of the Super P and J. So I guess what I'm asking is, is there any or much of a compromise with the shorter scale on the Super P5?
I'm based in Toronto so there isn't anywhere local I can check out a Super P to see if I'd get on with one.
Hopefully that makes sense, any opinions/advice would be greatly received.
i had both basses-
the 37 B really is the cats meow.
the only drawback IMO on the super series is the B string on my P 5 underwhelmed me; however, the super P is still the best sounding P out there on the top 4 strings. I am going to get a 4 stringer.
 
Can anyone here recommend a good case for a Combustion? I would prefer a hard case, but a good quality sift case is fine too. I've been shopping around online but I'm not sure if I can't see it in person. The stores around here just have generic cases for way too much money
 
I've been a Dingwall owner for a long time, but I don't post in this thread very often. I bought my Dingwall somewhere around 2006, and it was my main and only gigging bass for a long time. The pickups are notched by wear from resting my thumb on them. (Yes, I can play with a floating thumb, but I use several different right hand techniques - it all depends on the situation. For driving bass lines, I anchor my thumb and dig in, plucking parallel to the fingerboard.) I honestly believe my Dingwall makes me sound like a better player than I am.

However, as time went on, I started playing other basses. I own A LOT of basses, and they all have there merits. Last night, though, I took my Dingwall to a gig in Charleston, WV. It was a slow night, and we played the last set to the owner and the sound man. (We got hired back - the owner loved us, but we've got some work to do to build an audience there.) But, two things about the Dingwall stood out.

First, an old bass player friend of mine was there for sound check. As we talked, he kept coming back to "man, your rig sounds good." After he threw that comment out there a few times, he finally said, "show me what you're playing through." I am very happy with my gear. I was using my LMII through a pair of Epifani PS112 cabs, because my Shuttle 9 is in need of repair. I also have a RH750 if I need it. My pedal board has an EWS preamp, a Diamond Bass Compressor, a Cusack Bass Screamer, a Wonderlove, a Source Audio BEF, and a WMD EQ pedal. The funny thing is, when he was listening, all my pedals were off. My signal chain was Dingwall ->JDI -> FOH. I eventually turned the WMD on (set flat) because the soundman wanted a little hotter signal, but the tone was ALL Dingwall. My basses all sound good, but this is the one that people hear as better - and he didn't even realize it had fanned frets until the guitar player pointed it out.

The second thing is what I hear. Sure, it is even and has a quick response, but a lot of notes sounded funny to me. I know the tonal quality of a 35" G string sometimes bothers me, and the "out of tune" nature of the third-fret G on the E string often drives me crazy. I think the "funny" sound I was hearing was coming from being conditioned to hear those slightly out of tune notes on a 34" scale bass. I don't know that the Dingwall is perfectly in tune at every note, but I suspect it is slightly out of tune differently. Or maybe I imagined the whole thing and my ears were playing tricks on me.

Anyway, I haven't posted a pic of my Dingwall in a long time. So here you go. This one actually sort of captures some of the depth of the top. The flame is three dimensional and breathtaking - there is no comparison to any other flame top I have ever seen.

IMAG0053_zps490128e7.jpg
 
I've been a Dingwall owner for a long time, but I don't post in this thread very often. I bought my Dingwall somewhere around 2006, and it was my main and only gigging bass for a long time. The pickups are notched by wear from resting my thumb on them. (Yes, I can play with a floating thumb, but I use several different right hand techniques - it all depends on the situation. For driving bass lines, I anchor my thumb and dig in, plucking parallel to the fingerboard.) I honestly believe my Dingwall makes me sound like a better player than I am.

However, as time went on, I started playing other basses. I own A LOT of basses, and they all have there merits. Last night, though, I took my Dingwall to a gig in Charleston, WV. It was a slow night, and we played the last set to the owner and the sound man. (We got hired back - the owner loved us, but we've got some work to do to build an audience there.) But, two things about the Dingwall stood out.

First, an old bass player friend of mine was there for sound check. As we talked, he kept coming back to "man, your rig sounds good." After he threw that comment out there a few times, he finally said, "show me what you're playing through." I am very happy with my gear. I was using my LMII through a pair of Epifani PS112 cabs, because my Shuttle 9 is in need of repair. I also have a RH750 if I need it. My pedal board has an EWS preamp, a Diamond Bass Compressor, a Cusack Bass Screamer, a Wonderlove, a Source Audio BEF, and a WMD EQ pedal. The funny thing is, when he was listening, all my pedals were off. My signal chain was Dingwall ->JDI -> FOH. I eventually turned the WMD on (set flat) because the soundman wanted a little hotter signal, but the tone was ALL Dingwall. My basses all sound good, but this is the one that people hear as better - and he didn't even realize it had fanned frets until the guitar player pointed it out.

The second thing is what I hear. Sure, it is even and has a quick response, but a lot of notes sounded funny to me. I know the tonal quality of a 35" G string sometimes bothers me, and the "out of tune" nature of the third-fret G on the E string often drives me crazy. I think the "funny" sound I was hearing was coming from being conditioned to hear those slightly out of tune notes on a 34" scale bass. I don't know that the Dingwall is perfectly in tune at every note, but I suspect it is slightly out of tune differently. Or maybe I imagined the whole thing and my ears were playing tricks on me.

Anyway, I haven't posted a pic of my Dingwall in a long time. So here you go. This one actually sort of captures some of the depth of the top. The flame is three dimensional and breathtaking - there is no comparison to any other flame top I have ever seen.

IMAG0053_zps490128e7.jpg
Beauty!
 
I know the tonal quality of a 35" G string sometimes bothers me, and the "out of tune" nature of the third-fret G on the E string often drives me crazy. I think the "funny" sound I was hearing was coming from being conditioned to hear those slightly out of tune notes on a 34" scale bass. I don't know that the Dingwall is perfectly in tune at every note, but I suspect it is slightly out of tune differently. Or maybe I imagined the whole thing and my ears were playing tricks on me.

You might try a set of nickels to warm up the G. You could even just try swapping a single nickel, D'Addario or whatever to see if that helps before investing in a whole set.

Try plugging into a tuner to see if the G note is on, off or being pulled sharp.
 
I finally ordered a set of DW nickels for my ABZ. I've been using a Circle K .130 set, and considered going down a gauge but couldn't pass up trying Sheldon and the gangs new strings. I haven't checked the tracking to see when they arrive yet.
 
Forgot to mention that I've finalized a spec with Barry and I'm just waiting on an invoice so i can send off my deposit. After playing the P with the FD3 in the bridge position I knew I had to have one.

Super P5
FD3 in the bridge
Ash Body
Maple Fretboard
Black Pearl Blocks
Black guard
Black Hardware

I'm leaving the color a mystery for now, but it's inspired by the Black Cherry Super j at NAMM.
 
You might try a set of nickels to warm up the G. You could even just try swapping a single nickel, D'Addario or whatever to see if that helps before investing in a whole set.

Try plugging into a tuner to see if the G note is on, off or being pulled sharp.

Oh, I've got no beef with the G on my Dingwall. I was merely commenting that when I use a 35" scale bass, the G sounds funny to me. The B and E sound great, though. That was just to give context to my other comments. To be fair though, my favorite bass tones on the top two strings come from a 32" scale bass.

I am very curious about your nickel strings, though. I *always* used nickel-plated steel until I got my Dingwall. You bass with steel strings sounded so good it just opened my eyes to other possibilities.

I don't know if I can hear the few cents difference in intonation of certain notes between a standard, fixed scale bass and a Dingwall or not, but it sure seems that way.

Question: How close does do folks here think that the 35" B string on the Supers come to the magic of a 37" Dingwall? I have played a Super J, but never gigged one. My impression was that it was "just" and incredibly well made, nice sounding bass, but that it didn't capture the same magic as the ABZ I played in the same sitting.

On a side note, the soundman we used always EQ's so that my open D string sounds a little weak. I noticed that with my Dingwall, too.
 
Question: How close does do folks here think that the 35" B string on the Supers come to the magic of a 37" Dingwall? I have played a Super J, but never gigged one. My impression was that it was "just" and incredibly well made, nice sounding bass, but that it didn't capture the same magic as the ABZ I played in the same sitting.
I tried a Super J before ordering my ABZ. I was pleased to see that it was still in stock when I came to pick my bass up, along with a 4-string SP. I enjoyed getting to A/B them.

The Supers definitely have a more familiar feel, for people who are into the traditional Fender thing. I think the string spacing, the way they hang on your body, etc., contribute to that.

Like you, I didn't bond with the low B on the SJ. Not because it wasn't a bad B, it was very, very good. But I specifically wanted a Dingwall for their signature "piano bass" clarity in the lower register, and the long-scale models deliver more of that.

The note attack in the first position sounded a little rounder on the SJ, and that wasn't what I was looking for. If I had the extra $$ for one of those, I wouldn't hesitate- I'd just roll the extra moolah into a fancier long-scale.

OTOH, I can totally see someone else viewing it the opposite way. It's all about what your prefer.