The 35" B on the Super series basses are in line with other high quality 35" scale length basses, but it's not 37". The 37" B-string really is a thing of beauty. The two different scale length models are quite different.
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- Thread starter FroggyOne2
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Tough call, but you are the only one who can make it (sez Captain Obvious
). Another difference between the long and medium scale five-string Dingwalls is string spacing. 18mm on the longs, 19 on the mediums. Then there are differences between specific instruments of the same design due to variances in wood densities. It would be difficult to pull off the ultimate comparison, which would be you playing one of each design through your rig with your musical group. I have settled on medium scales and do not perceive them as a compromise at all. I prefer the more traditional tones, the 19 mm spacing, the shorter reach in low positions on the neck, and the 'fatter' tones all over the neck - including the B. Plenty of note definition for me down there. My five-string SJ/P is ash/maple/maple, my five-string SJ/J is ash/maple/morado. Both are equipped with Glock preamps which I always engage when playing live, but typically do not use for tone shaping. I prefer the brighter tone palette that they provide. The SJ/P is my 'SP5' - I love playing it with the P soloed:
My first Dingwall is now owned by Granddesign:
(I love Sheldon's blue finishes!)
I wish you the best of luck finding your next Dingwall (they are all super IME)!
Thanks for the replies.
I think I've made up my mind and am going to to go for an ABZ or AB1 (depending on the finish I choose) for the time being with a few little extras. I will look at getting a Super P at some point in the future after I've had a chance to check one out properly.
Spiritbass, I love the colour on the blue SJ/P.
I think I've made up my mind and am going to to go for an ABZ or AB1 (depending on the finish I choose) for the time being with a few little extras. I will look at getting a Super P at some point in the future after I've had a chance to check one out properly.
Spiritbass, I love the colour on the blue SJ/P.
For me the Super P is just as much about the sweeter tones of the highest three strings as it is about the low B. I really like what it does for the D and G strings in particular.
Good point - it's not all about the B string. 100% agreement here - I need me my sweet highs.
(me & George Harrison
)
Agree. Nice to solo things up there!
BTW, the A and E strings sound wonderful as well. The B string is much more full with the 'matched impedance' bass coil. Sheldon and crew tweaked the originals and the newer ones sound great. It was an easy replacement.
When are they NOT upgrading things! Fantastic crew!
Quick question from a first time buyer, when you guys throw down a deposit for a beautiful new Dingwall; do they just call/email you for the rest of the cash when it is ready to ship?
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Yes. Save your pennies in between.
Awesome, thanks. I thought so. I know I asked Barry on the phone a while ago, but I completely forgot what he said in the excitement of seeing my name on a Dingwall invoice. I didn't want to call and bother him again, I'm sure he has better things to do.
April can't come soon enough...
I'm envious 
I bought my first Dingwall sight unseen and used. However, I've done this internationally, and to avoid the abysmal shipping cost I had a relative pick it up in CONUS on my behalf and bring it over on his first visit. I waited for about 4 or 6 months I think. I cannot express the excitement buildup
And, of course, it delivered in every expectation and more.
I bought my first Dingwall sight unseen and used. However, I've done this internationally, and to avoid the abysmal shipping cost I had a relative pick it up in CONUS on my behalf and bring it over on his first visit. I waited for about 4 or 6 months I think. I cannot express the excitement buildup
And, of course, it delivered in every expectation and more.
Please enlighten the crew here. Are you talking about the 'bass' half of a split precision pickup? Thanks.
Yes. Sheldon's team came up with a different magic formula for the bass coil of the pair. Helped to reduce noise and seemed a bit fatter to me. I think it had a different impedance than the original. Sheldon said only of the few early ones had this config.
I also raised the bass coil a tad. So that increased the output.
Sheldon also has a couple of flavors of the tone fusion pot. I actually like the original formula.
Always something changing. Lots of choices.
I also raised the bass coil a tad. So that increased the output.
Sheldon also has a couple of flavors of the tone fusion pot. I actually like the original formula.
Always something changing. Lots of choices.
I like the ABZ 5 take on the classic ash/maple wood combo and the FD3 voicing somewhere between a P and J pickup. With the pickup switching options this should have some sweet tones and be great for slap and punchy finger style. I'm curious about wenge vs maple for the neck and fingerboard. Maple is brighter but does wenge add back some mid presence to the natural swamp ash scoop or would it be too dark? IME, the aggressive tone of single coil pickups work well with ash/maple. Do the FD3 pickups have enough presence to sit well in a dense mix with the maple fb? I'm thinking of picking up an ABZ 5 and would appreciate some input on which wood might be preferable for rock/blues/funk/pop/country. Thanks
Sorry everyone. Just catching up.
Some interesting commentary on tonality and strings versus length.
I have not spent any time on a 37 (YET). I have a ton of time on the Super series.
I haven't noted anything unusual in terms of perceived intonation, but I have noticed differences compared to other 35 inch scaled basses.
I still believe its the best low B out there on a 35. I have played many high end 5's but not many of the boutiques in this scale range. I also think that low B on the Super P crushes the low B on a Super J standard and I love my Super J.
As for nickels, I am in love with them. So much so that I'm putting them on the Super J. I'm all but positive that they will bring the SJ even closer to my perception of tonal nirvana.
As for the Super P5, it has become as close to my one true love as I have ever had. I took the Super J5 one night and went right back to the SP5. I am actually excited that I love the SP5 that much as I can do the JP conversion on the SJ without fear.
Still pondering what I intend to do about a 37.
Some interesting commentary on tonality and strings versus length.
I have not spent any time on a 37 (YET). I have a ton of time on the Super series.
I haven't noted anything unusual in terms of perceived intonation, but I have noticed differences compared to other 35 inch scaled basses.
I still believe its the best low B out there on a 35. I have played many high end 5's but not many of the boutiques in this scale range. I also think that low B on the Super P crushes the low B on a Super J standard and I love my Super J.
As for nickels, I am in love with them. So much so that I'm putting them on the Super J. I'm all but positive that they will bring the SJ even closer to my perception of tonal nirvana.
As for the Super P5, it has become as close to my one true love as I have ever had. I took the Super J5 one night and went right back to the SP5. I am actually excited that I love the SP5 that much as I can do the JP conversion on the SJ without fear.
Still pondering what I intend to do about a 37.
I'm envious
I bought my first Dingwall sight unseen and used. However, I've done this internationally, and to avoid the abysmal shipping cost I had a relative pick it up in CONUS on my behalf and bring it over on his first visit. I waited for about 4 or 6 months I think. I cannot express the excitement buildup
And, of course, it delivered in every expectation and more.
I was lucky enough to have a meet and greet with Nolly back in November. He let me play around with his prototype NG2 and I was hooked. Called Barry the next day and told him to put me on the waiting list and I put down my deposit.
He emailed me last night to let me know production has been delayed until June. So sad...
What is this "fear" you speak of?
You know you're gonna dig it. So, are you going with Baltic amber or tort to surround that nice, new split-P?
Fired the deposit off last night, going to be a long 6-8 months!
Color??????
