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EBMM Gamechanger??

#88
Gomeztool said:
I wish they'd offer something this different on something other than a black bass.

This sort of non conformist tech belongs on something equally non conformist like the Bongo.
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And while we're at it, what's with these new Music Mans coming out with those dinky Y-shaped tuners on? Y-tuners on a Music Man are like a lacy apron on a drill sergeant.
 
#89
Ok I'm sure that some of us can get by with just a few sounds.
Fine...Thats cool

However we be against the limitation.

Its like being able to draw great with just a pencil and you can amazing things with shading, ect with just a standard good old #2. Well would could you do if some oneone then gave you a colored set of pencils??? :hiding:

Would it be overwhelming? Or a wide pallet to now pick from to expand your capabilities?

I think we as bass players for the most part have accepted what there is (even on a unconscious level) and said "Yep this works" and thats that.

I'm not saying its the greatest thing ever, but I think its work checking out and I for one is curious on trying it out. I would love to for a week to put it through some paces and different gigs.
 
#91
I am sure 99% of the people who try this will settle for three to four sounds that they feel emulate their faves close enough but to be able to tweak those favorite tones to be not just close enough but to be almost dead on is pretty neat.
 
#92
Gomeztool said:
I wish they'd offer something this different on something other than a black bass.

This sort of non conformist tech belongs on something equally non conformist like the Bongo.
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It will come in different colors later on.

cellkirk74 said:
Again, The GC is not intended to sound like a P Bass at all, so it is quite useless to compare it to one. You are not going to compare a P to an Alembic, won't you?
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It's not? :eyebrow:

That's definitely not what I got from the videos...
 
#93
Gomeztool said:
I am sure 99% of the people who try this will settle for three to four sounds that they feel emulate their faves close enough but to be able to tweak those favorite tones to be not just close enough but to be almost dead on is pretty neat.
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You have two ceramic humbuckers in a non traditional location. I don't care how you wire them they are not going to sound like a Precision, Jazz, or Stingray. To say there are many subtle variations of the basic modern EB tone is probably correct, to assume that this bass will be able to magically sound like a Fender or Ric, for example, because the pickups can be combined without restriction in almost definitely incorrect.
 
#94
king_biscuit said:
You have two ceramic humbuckers in a non traditional location. I don't care how you wire them they are not going to sound like a Precision, Jazz, or Stingray. To say there are many subtle variations of the basic modern EB tone is probably correct, to assume that this bass will be able to magically sound like a Fender or Ric, for example, because the pickups can be combined without restriction in almost definitely incorrect.
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Like they say, wait until you've played one.





Though I will admit that after seeing the videos I was less than impressed. Really cool idea, but the videos gave me a meh impression.
 
#95
jmattbassplaya said:
Like they say, wait until you've played one.





Though I will admit that after seeing the videos I was less than impressed. Really cool idea, but the videos gave me a meh impression.
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I don't have to play it -- although I will and I think they are kind of cool for what they are. I have played the bongos and I have a Big Al (and a bunch of Stingrays). I have watched all of the videos too. Most EB aficionados will tell you that the middle pickup position on the Big Al sounds like a Precision, but I don't think it has the tone or punch when compared side by side. The Big Al middle pickup is roughly in the same spot as a P bass too. There is no way that Reflex/Gamechamger is going to sound any more like a P bass than the middle pickup of the Big Al! Check out the parallel ss settings on a Stingray HH (two outer coils or two inner coils) there is your EB Jazz bass tone -- again not too convincing! And even though the rear humbucker looks to be in the same location as a stingray, the Reflex does not have an alnico stingray pickup, nor does it have a Stingray preamp. You can't magically make ceramic pickups sound like alnico or change the physical location of a pickup by rewiring its coils to one another!
 
#96
king_biscuit said:
You have two ceramic humbuckers in a non traditional location. I don't care how you wire them they are not going to sound like a Precision, Jazz, or Stingray. To say there are many subtle variations of the basic modern EB tone is probably correct, to assume that this bass will be able to magically sound like a Fender or Ric, for example, because the pickups can be combined without restriction in almost definitely incorrect.
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Absent of any of us actually trying the GC indepth your opinion is as speculative as mine. Besides Fender does not automatically define "fave tones" but I can see why many folks are stuck on it.

And I should probably be thankful that there are still makers out who don't just pump out Fender clones because it's a quick way to move units.
 
#97
Gomeztool said:
Absent of any of us actually trying the GC indepth your opinion is as speculative as mine. Besides Fender does not automatically define "fave tones" but I can see why many folks are stuck on it.
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Sorry, I'm not speculating, I've heard EBMM basses -- I have five of them -- and I understand the basics of pickup types and locations. I also listened to Dave LaRue's "vintage tones" in the videos. No amount of coil organization on a Reflex is going to grant those ceramic humbuckers alnico status! And again, the pickup location will also preclude Fender tones. I suspect that for many the tones may be close enough -- like rolling down the tone control with rounds to get a "flatwound" sound. But for those of us with actual Fenders, Rics, etc., the tone won't be the same. So what, I'm sure the Reflex will sound fine doing its own thing.
 
#99
The light wieght Y tuners were made mandatory by the Ball legal staff.
When you continue to add weight to a heavy weight, the liability for back injuries becomes too great.
 
#100
Jim C said:
The light wieght Y tuners were made mandatory by the Ball legal staff.
When you continue to add weight to a heavy weight, the liability for back injuries becomes too great.
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You're just hilarious!

Seriously though are you just here to cut down EBMM? I noticed your OTHER thread that seems to bash them as well.

Sorry for the RANT, but I'm tired of all the bashing that goes on here.
 

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