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Fender Rumble Club

#58,841
G-Dog said:
While on the subject of awesomeness, Summer NAMM [2019] is coming late next week. I hope all dedicated Club members have been lobbying Fender for our collective dream items!
  • The Fender Rumble Club 400 head and combo: 250 watts continuous at 8 ohms, 400 at 4 ohms, with the Combo sporting a 15" Eminence speaker.

  • The Fender Rumble 212 extension cabinet with two 12" Eminence drivers rated for 500 watts continuous, 1000 watts program, fitting the same 200/200/500/Stage footprint but just a bit taller.
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G-Dog said:
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... ... ... I've added a link in the Tone sub-section of the Rumble Talks section, of your Rumble Wiki about Modeling Accuracy versus The Point Of Rumble Modeling. It's really just my opinion, but I think it holds up in light of the recent introduction of the Fender Tone Master Pro modeling "pedal" and it's accompanying Tone Master FR-10 & FR-12 amps.

I hope this addition will be helpful to those of us interested in this topic!

Rumble On!​
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And now, 5-½ years after our first wish for a new lightweight 212 cab, comes the


Yeah, it's not just an extension cab, but a powered speaker cab, at 1,000 watts to closely emulate* a 45 watt tube amp (I'm not exactly sure what that means). Yeah, Ok, right, well, technically it's being marketed as a guitar amp and not a bass amp. 😞 But, maybe it could somehow work as a bass amp/extension?

It's little brothers, the FR-10 and FR-12, with the same 1,000 watts to emulate 45 tube watts amp, weigh in at just 25.6 and 27.6 lb.s, respectively. So, hopefully, the FR-212 can manage something less than 35 lb.s. *And maybe the 1,000 watt emulation circuitry can, hopefully, maybe, make up for the probable lack of actual bass speakers and bass-tuned cab, maybe, sorta, at least for a decent 45 watts bass output? 🙄 Hmmmm, ... yeah, right ... like that could happen. 🤨

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Sorry, no new Rumble(s) announced yet at the Winter NAMM 2025 as of yet. 😥
 
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G-Dog said:
And now, 5-½ years after our first wish for a new lightweight 212 cab, comes the


Yeah, it's not just an extension cab, but a powered speaker cab, at 1,000 watts to closely emulate* a 45 watt tube amp (I'm not exactly sure what that means). Yeah, Ok, right, well, technically it's being marketed as a guitar amp and not a bass amp. 😞 But, maybe it could somehow work as a bass amp/extension?

It's little brothers, the FR-10 and FR-12, with the same 1,000 watts to emulate 45 tube watts amp, weigh in at just 25.6 and 27.6 lb.s, respectively. So, hopefully, the FR-212 can manage something less than 35 lb.s. *And maybe the 1,000 watt emulation circuitry can, hopefully, maybe, make up for the probable lack of actual bass speakers and bass-tuned cab, maybe, sorta, at least for a decent 45 watts bass output? 🙄 Hmmmm, ... yeah, right ... like that could happen. 🤨

Sorry, no new Rumble(s) announced yet at the Winter NAMM 2025 as of yet. 😥
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According to Fender specs on their website the FR-12's frequency response is:

70Hz – 20kHz (-3dB)

A 212 with the same drivers should go just a bit lower.

It's really impossible to predict where the '-10dB' low end would be, but I would think it could work for EADG 4-string basses if you are doing Reggae or similar low end intensive music.

We could hope for a bass-specific version that could handle low 'B' 5-string basses (1x12 & 2x12 would be nice).
That would be great for using with some pedal preamp or digital modeler (like my Two Notes Opus).
I'm getting more and more convinced to get a R100c to run mine into.
 
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John D Harris said:
According to Fender specs on their website ... ... ...
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The FR-212 wasn't on the 7ender website when I posted. And, well, DANG!, it weighs 39.8 lb.s!! Sheesh, I was hoping for a few pounds less. 😠

John D Harris said:
... ... ... the FR-12's frequency response is:

70Hz – 20kHz (-3dB)

A 212 with the same drivers should go just a bit lower.

It's really impossible to predict where the '-10dB' low end would be, but I would think it could work for EADG 4-string basses if you are doing Reggae or similar low end intensive music. ... ... ...
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Yeah, and 70 Hz is =1333720&o=date']not an uncommon HPF setting in the HPF & LOF Mega Thread.

John D Harris said:
... ... ... We could hope for a bass-specific version that could handle low 'B' 5-string basses (1x12 & 2x12 would be nice).
That would be great for using with some pedal preamp or digital modeler (like my Two Notes Opus).
I'm getting more and more convinced to get a R100c to run mine into.
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Indeed, "hope springs eternal", as we continue to hope for a lightweight 212 bass cab, in addition to other Rumble amp & combo variants, as the NAMM wishes of many Rumblers.
 
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G-Dog said:
The FR-212 wasn't on the 7ender website when I posted. And, well, DANG!, it weighs 39.8 lb.s!! Sheesh, I was hoping for a few pounds less. 😠



Yeah, and 70 Hz is =1333720&o=date']not an uncommon HPF setting in the HPF & LOF Mega Thread.



Indeed, "hope springs eternal", as we continue to hope for a lightweight 212 bass cab, in addition to other Rumble amp & combo variants, as the NAMM wishes of many Rumblers.
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Make yer own outta balsa to slightly enlarged 210 cab specs. Just don't sittonit.
 
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GonePlaid said:
The R112(bottom)is gone-sold to someone who really wanted one. And was gonna use it.
I could re-stage the pic stacking them like this:
R40
R100
R200c/B25
Or you can just imagine this pic w/o the R112.
Yeah. I think I'll go with that. Easier.
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Yeah, Gone, I know you ain't got yer 112 no more. 😥 But I hadda top Miley's 3-cab tower! 😉 Plus, yer 4-cab tower really is my favorite Rumble pic! 🤩
 
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GonePlaid said:
The R112(bottom)is gone-sold to someone who really wanted one. And was gonna use it.
I could re-stage the pic stacking them like this:
R40
R100
R200c/B25
Or you can just imagine this pic w/o the R112.
Yeah. I think I'll go with that. Easier.
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If I'd had a 200, I'd have bought that in a heartbeat. But my 100s just don't care. Luckily for them, they sound so good, I don't care they don't care.
 
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Miles_ONeal said:
If I'd had a 200, I'd have bought that in a heartbeat. But my 100s just don't care. Luckily for them, they sound so good, I don't care they don't care.
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To reiterate, I bought the 200c over the 100 'cos the 200c had/has extension speaker capability which the 100 doesn't. I actually liked the tone of the 100 better. BUT! If I'd known of the daisy chaining 'trick' to begin with, I woulda bought 2x100s. Learned of that after getting the 200c-a fine amp, btw-and spent some time kicking my own fazaza over my "mistake". Because of the size of the few places we still play, the 200c hasn't been out for a while. I'll prolly take it Saturday when we play the largest room we still play at-which would be a perfect venue for stacked 100s.
 
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GonePlaid said:
To reiterate, I bought the 200c over the 100 'cos the 200c had/has extension speaker capability which the 100 doesn't. I actually liked the tone of the 100 better. BUT! If I'd known of the daisy chaining 'trick' to begin with, I woulda bought 2x100s. Learned of that after getting the 200c-a fine amp, btw-and spent some time kicking my own fazaza over my "mistake". Because of the size of the few places we still play, the 200c hasn't been out for a while. I'll prolly take it Saturday when we play the largest room we still play at-which would be a perfect venue for stacked 100s.
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Oh, I’m content. 2x12 works great for me!
 
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GonePlaid said:
Yep. When I've played through 2x100s, whether both are someone else's or mine plus another, it's really close to the sound I vaguely remember from this:
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only 'oomphier'.
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I, too, also reiterate:

I was confidently saving up for my Bassman 500 head to augment my Bassman 150 & 250 combos in my very loud country cover band. I had already received the Bassman Neo 115 cab for Christmas 2013 from my lovely Mrs. Dog, when the Rumble V3s were introduced at NAMM 2014. I was intrigued by the "hype"* about these new Rumbles. Especially the Rumble 500 combo just seemed too good to be true, ya know?

I mean, nothing that lightweight had ever output a useful 350 watts continuous (like RMS) thru just two 10" speakers and for just $499.95, right!?!? So, I spent my BM500 savings and ordered the R500c really just to find out "what's wrong with this picture?"! The plan was to debunk the "hype"*, then return it for the BM500 head, instead.

Lo and behold! The R500c could not be debunked. It was completely and solidly bunked!! It passed every test I threw at it. Even the low B on my 5-string resonated my chest, along with the entire house at high volume! (I waited 'til Mrs. Dog went to the store.) And with the BM115 as an extension cab? Fuhgeddaboudit! OMG!

*There was no hype! It was all true! New plan: the BM500 head is delayed, possibly even to be deleted!!! The R500c, with only occasional BM115 support, immediately replaced my BM150 & BM250 combos.

I lived merrily ever after. The BM500 head did eventually come, as did the Rumble Studio 40 modeling combo. I found the BM500/115 to be a more premium twin to the R500c! They make a great stereo reinforcement for the RS40. 🤗

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I've been experimenting with my full Rumble rig (two Rumble 100's chained) tone controls.

I'm finding I can crank it really hard, even using my low B string when I dial back the Low tone control to about 1 or 2 (8 o'clock or so) and just add some warmth to the tone via my bass tone controls Ibanez GSR206, strung BEADGC). I typically have my bridge pup full on, but my neck pup is off, so I add a bit more volume to the neck pup, and a bit more of the bass tone control on my bass.

So...I'm curious if anyone knows a direct link to the frequency range of each of the Rumble tone controls. I'm curious why I can dial back the lows so far and still have such a full sound. I'm guessing my bass's Low tone control dials in a different frequency than the Low tone control on the Rumble.

EDIT: Found this online...

According to Fender's specifications, the Fender Rumble 100 tone controls generally affect the following frequencies:

Bass around 80Hz, Low-Mid around 280Hz, High-Mid around 1.2kHz, and Treble around 10kHz; with the "Contour" function also manipulating midrange frequencies by cutting around 670Hz while boosting slightly at lower and higher frequencies.

EDIT 2: This is about my Ibanez GSR206 controls...

The bass's "Tone" control is basically a "treble" control.

The PHAT II EQ is described as such...
The variable range of the frequency increases from 20 Hz to the high range, and the variable range decreases from the peak around 100 Hz to around 1000 Hz. The variable width of the frequency becomes large again in the high range from around 1000 Hz, and reaches the peak at around 10,000 Hz, and then becomes smaller again. The variable range around 100 Hz is about 15 dB, the range around 1000 Hz is about 5 dB, and the range around 10000 Hz is about 10 dB.

That might explain a lot. Cut back at 80Hz on the Rumble's Low control, but boost a little at 100Hz on my bass EQ. This would shift the low end up 20Hz coming out of the speakers. Low B is about 32Hz (or at octaves 64Hz, 128Hz.) which means I can reduce the 80Hz range on the amp, but get more out of the 2nd octave (128Hz).

Don't underestimate the Rumble's Tonal ability to be shaped to one's liking besides it's typical Fender style tone.
 
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M-Mittlesteadt said:
I've been experimenting with my full Rumble rig (two Rumble 100's chained) tone controls.

I'm finding I can crank it really hard, even using my low B string when I dial back the Low tone control to about 1 or 2 (8 o'clock or so) and just add some warmth to the tone via my bass tone controls Ibanez GSR206, strung BEADGC). I typically have my bridge pup full on, but my neck pup is off, so I add a bit more volume to the neck pup, and a bit more of the bass tone control on my bass.

So...I'm curious if anyone knows a direct link to the frequency range of each of the Rumble tone controls. I'm curious why I can dial back the lows so far and still have such a full sound. I'm guessing my bass's Low tone control dials in a different frequency than the Low tone control on the Rumble.

EDIT: Found this online...

According to Fender's specifications, the Fender Rumble 100 tone controls generally affect the following frequencies:

Bass around 80Hz, Low-Mid around 280Hz, High-Mid around 1.2kHz, and Treble around 10kHz; with the "Contour" function also manipulating midrange frequencies by cutting around 670Hz while boosting slightly at lower and higher frequencies.

EDIT 2: This is about my Ibanez GSR206 controls...

The bass's "Tone" control is basically a "treble" control.

The PHAT II EQ is described as such...
The variable range of the frequency increases from 20 Hz to the high range, and the variable range decreases from the peak around 100 Hz to around 1000 Hz. The variable width of the frequency becomes large again in the high range from around 1000 Hz, and reaches the peak at around 10,000 Hz, and then becomes smaller again. The variable range around 100 Hz is about 15 dB, the range around 1000 Hz is about 5 dB, and the range around 10000 Hz is about 10 dB.

That might explain a lot. Cut back at 80Hz on the Rumble's Low control, but boost a little at 100Hz on my bass EQ. This would shift the low end up 20Hz coming out of the speakers. Low B is about 32Hz (or at octaves 64Hz, 128Hz.) which means I can reduce the 80Hz range on the amp, but get more out of the 2nd octave (128Hz).

Don't underestimate the Rumble's Tonal ability to be shaped to one's liking besides it's typical Fender style tone.
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Check the club wikis. I’m pretty sure there are some useful graphs.
 
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