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G&L Club Part 7

Short version...i traded a Fender Pbass i had with another forum member for a recent year US lb100.
Very impressed overall with the quality,etc. So much that i went on the search for a US JB2,and wound up with a good one. The JB2 is exactly everything I would've hoped for,and has become one of my favorites.
And the LB is the best P bass i've ever owned, plays great, but I have once again come to the conclusion that soundwise, I'm just not a P bass guy, so it is on the outgoing list.
I recently got to try a tribute version of the kiloton,and think i would like that model much better.
(Only i want a US made one.)
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I'm not much of a p-bass guy either. But an SB-2? That's a whole different animal.
 
Oh, they'd definitely look great with black hardware. I have an old Tobias with all-black hardware that's really pretty, but it would look pretty goofy if the black knobs were replaced with chrome. o_O :D

I'll try to take some good pictures of my L this weekend for a "before" and "after" comparison.

EDIT: Hey, I just noticed you're local as well. I know @armyadarkness lives pretty close to me, also. The G&L force is strong in South Jersey!

Yeah - I used to live in East Brunswick, job change about 4 years ago left me with a 100 mile daily commute. I like the new job much better so last fall I moved to Shamong. Nice & peaceful out here, I'm on the edge of Wharton State Forest.
 
Ugh... I guess I can stop complaining about a half hour one way, then.
I was doing 53 miles each way. Mornings took about 60 to 70 minutes, unless I took the NJTPK and pushed hard. Evening commute was about 75 minutes; if I took the TPK. The alternate route 130 was actually more direct but the traffic lights were a killer. I drive a 4 cyl Outback & I was buying a tank of gas every 3 1/2 days. Now a tank of gas lasts me 2 weeks, I have a 16 mile drive through farmland & cow pastures. On nice days I take the motorcycle in.
 
Now that the dust has settled, I'd like to clarify what I've been reading...

Back in my day, Fender got sold to CBS and the general consus held that quality tanked. I don't know if Fender quality ever returned to pre-CBS levels, and pre-CBS pieces are held in high regard where somewhat later ones ... not so much.

Am I reading that history is repeating itself here with G&L?

Specifically, if I ever decide to buy me an SB-2(T), should I defer a new purchase from the Rocket man, and focus only on used? And if so, how old should I go to get the good stuff? What is the cut-off date? When did things first go south?

(But let's keep it civil. Remember, Chef is watching...) ;->

IMHO - I think you're safe buying G&L product at this point. I have two G&L basses.

A '13 L1505, clearly a BBE era instrument. Overall quality, fit & finish are top notch; plays well & sounds good.

About 6 months ago I picked up an early'80s (I believe its an '82) Mahogany L2k. Its got some playing wear; it was gigged pretty hard - but its a well made instrument & still plays & sounds fantastic.

Certainly there are better values in the used market; but all in all I'm pretty happy with my G&L's.
 
I have a weird issue with my MJ-4.

If I touch the top pole of either pickup (E or A string) with my thumb, I get a humming noise. This doesn't happen on the bottom poles (D and G string).

Is this normal?

I just checked mine, no weird hums touching poles or anywhere.

But then, I noticed this. The bass has been in its hardcase for the last two months, stored indoors, strings tuned down a half step. This can't be good....

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I just checked mine, no weird hums touching poles or anywhere.

But then, I noticed this. The bass has been in its hardcase for the last two months, stored indoors, strings tuned down a half step. This can't be good....

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Please tell me your child got loose with a sharpie


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But seriously, how could the headstock/neck crack backwards with string tension on it? Or is this because the strings were loosened and the truss rod has a severe backbow?
 
Please tell me your child got loose with a sharpie


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But seriously, how could the headstock/neck crack backwards with string tension on it? Or is this because the strings were loosened and the truss rod has a severe backbow?

lol No loose sharpie wielding child. No back bow or truss rod weirdness.
 
Yeah - I used to live in East Brunswick, job change about 4 years ago left me with a 100 mile daily commute. I like the new job much better so last fall I moved to Shamong. Nice & peaceful out here, I'm on the edge of Wharton State Forest.
Ugh, yeah, I'd shorten that commute if I had the opportunity, too. So you're even closer than armyadarkness is. We're in the far north end of Marlton, in between Mt. Laurel and Medford. It's away from all the hubbub along Rt. 73 and pretty quiet here, but not quite the nice, woodsy quiet you have in Shamong.
 
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I had that happen to a bass of mine too a few years ago. I took it to a pro and he glued it. Its been about 8 years since and it's still holding good. You should be OK. I had thought the bass neck broke on its own. I took it out of the bag a rehearsal one night, the first one after a gig, and discovered the crack. When I brought it in, the luthier asked if it had been stepped on. Then he showed me the bent tuning key. Thats when I realized it didn't just happen. Have you figured out how it happened to yours?
 
All my G&Ls have outstanding build quality (Note I'm not discounting the problems others have had). My oldest in a 1999 SB-2 and my newest is a few year old MJ-4 (absolutely no dead spots on the neck. yay me!). It sounds like things are getting spotty with G&L and that makes me sad because I've always felt that G&L was a cut above Fender.

The thing with used G&Ls is that they're such tremendous values. I have no idea why they don't hold their value that well, but you can pick up an outstanding G&L used for $800-900. There are even these owners who never seem to take them out (because they have absolutely no finish issues).

Unless I was after something really specific, I've always thought used is too good to pass up.

But then again, looking at some of these recent super metallic finishes is making me want a new one so bad...
You're definitely touching on many of the wonders G&L ownership... Outstanding build, stunning finicshes, poor resale, incredibly awesome used selections, are all things the most of us love and cherish.

As for the recent issues, yes, recent is the key. If your builds are anything over two years old, then the wheels hadnt fallen off the cart yet... Although, a couple of older truss rod issues have occurred.

As for the used market... So many mint used models exist, because in my exp, it takes a few builds to really find your sweet spot and what you want, so all of those trial and error basses wind up on Reverb!