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Metal with a horn section/Jazz Metal

abark000 said:
The problem I've found with horns is that alot of those guys can play any piece of music you put in front of them, but when you tell them "Create", they are lost. I've met a trombone player, a flutist (flautist?), several trumpet players, and cellist and all were the same way. I wish I could find one who could improvise though. I have found a gospel piano player and I swear we share the same brain. Got a drummer lined up, but I'd like a horn and the right guitarist to complete the group. Aiming for groove funk without borrowing too much from MMW.

My last band thing that I was involved with, the singer could play acoustic guitar and play sax. No metal, more of a singersongwriter thing, but that was where my head was at a few months ago.

I started a thread that had some of our songs if you're interested. Search for "Some old songs from a now defunct group". Or look about a page back.

You could always, erm cheat. If you are the melodious type who just can't write sheet, the modern guitar pro lets you write out your songs in tab and then turn it into a piece of sheet music that you could put in front of any reader. I've been meaning to do that myself. Once I get better recording gear, and when I'm feeling proggier.
 
Matt Till said:
Luckily for you, there are plenty of ska kids without bands right now because.. well ska sucks... snag their horn section and make it happen. :D
I was actually in a band many years ago that was composed of a Ska horn section (trumpet, 2 trombones and sax, all Ska fans) a Ska singer and a guitarists, drummer and bassist (me) that all were metal heads.

It was kind of fun, ever heard a ska band cover "Season in the Abyss" by Slayer? :)
 
Tash said:
I was actually in a band many years ago that was composed of a Ska horn section (trumpet, 2 trombones and sax, all Ska fans) a Ska singer and a guitarists, drummer and bassist (me) that all were metal heads.

It was kind of fun, ever heard a ska band cover "Season in the Abyss" by Slayer? :)


My friends Ska band (The Go Go Rays) did a ska version of Reign in Blood.
 
Yakuza - better than I expected, at least from the clips on their myspace site. They have a new one coming out next year. Link Removed

Kozmic Dragon - I am seriously on the fence about this one.

Cons. 1. Super Echoey vocals are annoying. 2. Very little/no jazz. 3. Their metal is questionable. 4. The "misspelled" name thing is not good.

Pros. 1. When they are "on", (namely the one trumpet chorus bit) they rock my socks.

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Turkey Boullion Mafia - plenty of jazz/funk sans metal. Not bad, but not what I want.

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Jahmbi - Bungle inspired music (selftitled era) that isn't a blatant ripoff. Not bad really. Link Removed

I have a couple leads by the name of Polar Bear, Natsuki Tamura Quartet, and Lost Tribe. Apparently Dave Gilmour is in Lost Tribe, so I doubt that it will be very "metal"

This music is hard to find. Every shred guitarist considers his music to be jazz metal. Metal + horns yields links to every mouthpiece ever created. And the few bands who consider themselves jazz metal; aren't. At least not to the extent that I am wanting.
 
abark000 said:
Yakuza - better than I expected, at least from the clips on their myspace site. They have a new one coming out next year. Link Removed

Kozmic Dragon - I am seriously on the fence about this one.

Cons. 1. Super Echoey vocals are annoying. 2. Very little/no jazz. 3. Their metal is questionable. 4. The "misspelled" name thing is not good.

Pros. 1. When they are "on", (namely the one trumpet chorus bit) they rock my socks.

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Turkey Boullion Mafia - plenty of jazz/funk sans metal. Not bad, but not what I want.

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Jahmbi - Bungle inspired music (selftitled era) that isn't a blatant ripoff. Not bad really. Link Removed

I have a couple leads by the name of Polar Bear, Natsuki Tamura Quartet, and Lost Tribe. Apparently Dave Gilmour is in Lost Tribe, so I doubt that it will be very "metal"

This music is hard to find. Every shred guitarist considers his music to be jazz metal. Metal + horns yields links to every mouthpiece ever created. And the few bands who consider themselves jazz metal; aren't. At least not to the extent that I am wanting.
That's actually David GILMORE and he's a pretty smoking guitarist.
Lost Tribe are similar to Screaming Headless Torsos (No vocals though, and both have Fima Ephron on bass). The last song on their cd "Soulfish" is called "H" and has kind of a late 80's speed metal vibe with sax soloing over it.
I know what you mean though, I spent part of last year looking for similar stuff and had little luck.
 
Two bands: Groovehogs, Hot Pants Road Club


Both are primarily blues bands, but I've heard material from both which sounded like heavy metal with horns. If all else fails, I'll be involved in a new band come April which should involve quite a bit of both. We'll see...
 
harmolodic said:
That's actually David GILMORE and he's a pretty smoking guitarist.
Lost Tribe are similar to Screaming Headless Torsos (No vocals though, and both have Fima Ephron on bass). The last song on their cd "Soulfish" is called "H" and has kind of a late 80's speed metal vibe with sax soloing over it.
I know what you mean though, I spent part of last year looking for similar stuff and had little luck.

Animals is one of my favorite albums ever; I know who David Gilmour is. That is why I questioned the group's "metal".
 
abark000 said:
I have a couple leads by the name of Polar Bear, Natsuki Tamura Quartet, and Lost Tribe. Apparently Dave Gilmour is in Lost Tribe, so I doubt that it will be very "metal"

The only POLAR BEAR I know is the UK jazz group, which has a two sax + bass + drums lineup. No "metal" influences to my ears. On their newest album and for their live gigs, they are joined by electronica artist Leafcutter John.

www.polarbearmusic.com

A live video performance here:
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(Click the 'watch full songs' icon)

Polar Bear's sister band is Acoustic Ladyland (3 of the 4 members are the same) who are more rock-influenced, although you may think they're more "punk" than "metal". I've already posted the link to some live video earlier on this page, but their official site is:
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David Benyahia said:
The only POLAR BEAR I know is the UK jazz group, which has a two sax + bass + drums lineup. No "metal" influences to my ears. On their newest album and for their live gigs, they are joined by electronica artist Leafcutter John.

www.polarbearmusic.com

A live video performance here:
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(Click the 'watch full songs' icon)

Polar Bear's sister band is Acoustic Ladyland (3 of the 4 members are the same) who are more rock-influenced, although you may think they're more "punk" than "metal". I've already posted the link to some live video earlier on this page, but their official site is:
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Man, I must have just neglected to listen to the first link. Acoustic Ladyland sounds awesome.

Thanks,
Adam
 
Thumbs up for Ephel Duath. Very cool! New album out soon, too. IF you can find the bloody thing. You'd also probably really dig my band, we do the whole jazz/metal/noise thing and have a rotating line-up of horn players (mostly alto sax). It's too bad we're slack and have no recordings, because now I just look like I'm full of ****. Fantastic. Just think, if you lived in Australia, you could see us live and giggle at our amazing ability to mess up a 4 against 6 polyrhythm in front of a packed house of 10 people.
 

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