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[burk48237]

Notre Dame is incredibly overrated. If they somehow cheat their way into a title game, they're going to get STOMPED.

And KU is bowl eligible

Their is NO WAY Notre Dame deserves a shot at the title. MI. beat them 27-3 in South Bend, they literally embarassed them!

 

[cheezewiz]

Their is NO WAY Notre Dame deserves a shot at the title. MI. beat them 27-3 in South Bend, they literally embarassed them!

27-3? You better look up the score Burkey, 'cause that wasn't it.
Sure, Michigan dominated that day, and were clearly the better team, but it wasn't 27-3!

 

[cheezewiz]

Notre Dame is incredibly overrated. If they somehow cheat their way into a title game, they're going to get STOMPED.

And KU is bowl eligible

LOL. Have another serving of (to quote Stu Scott) haterade.
You can say they are overrated all you want, they are still 10-1.
I hardly see how that is overrated. Yes, they lost convincingly to Michigan, but are undefeated besides that. How could they "cheat" their way into the title game? To get there, they'd have to beat USC straight up. They wouldn't deserve it then? Maybe the men in black helicopters? I suggest you have a big ole hunk of Cheeze with that WHINE.

(BTW...I don't want to see ND in the title game either. Their defense is not near good enough to think about stopping OSU)

 

[Adam Barkley]

yeah, it's looking like it'll be the winner of usc/notre dame.

I honestly don't know. On one hand, the analysts are too busy kissing USC's ass to fathom them not being in a the NC game. On the other, they are just salivating for the chance to see a repeat of last night.

In regards to the USC/Notre Dame game, at least the Golden Child and Hollywood Mat aren't on USC this year, so maybe they won't be allowed to cheat their way to victory again.

My next set of bold predictions:

Notre Dame > USC
Notre beats Ohio State's ass to win the NC

 

[McHack]

27-3? You better look up the score Burkey, 'cause that wasn't it.
Sure, Michigan dominated that day, and were clearly the better team, but it wasn't 27-3!

Michigan pummelled ND, 47 - 21... So yea, thats worse than 27 - 3...

 

[McHack]

My next set of bold predictions:

Notre Dame > USC
Notre beats Ohio State's ass to win the NC

ND over OSU? Ok, I know your drunk w/ giddiness over yesterdays results.... so, you might want to actually use the next couple of weeks to rethink that.!

 

[cheezewiz]

Michigan pummelled ND, 47 - 21... So yea, thats worse than 27 - 3...

Possibly, but I'd rather score 21 points than 3 points.

As far as OSU/ND, OSU certainly looks like the better team, but you know what they say about thats why the play the game. Do you think Oregon State is a better team than USC?

 

[burk48237]

Michigan pummelled ND, 47 - 21... So yea, thats worse than 27 - 3...

Yeah my bad, I have no idea what game I was thinking of. USC hasn't played MI or Ohio state. If they beat ND convincingly I can see an argument for them in the title game. But ND was trounced by MI in South Bend, a game which probably cost Brady Quinn the heisman. To move ND up to #2 over MI is wrong. Texas was beat soundly by Ohio State in Texas, ND was beat soundly by MI in South Bend. The only team besides MI that can make a case for # 2 is USC. Remember MI only lost by four points in Ohio State, they certainly have a strong argument for a rematch on a neutral field for the title.

 

[Adam Barkley]

Yeah my bad, I have no idea what game I was thinking of. USC hasn't played MI or Ohio state. If they beat ND convincingly I can see an argument for them in the title game. But ND was trounced by MI in South Bend, a game which probably cost Brady Quinn the heisman. To move ND up to #2 over MI is wrong. Texas was beat soundly by Ohio State in Texas, ND was beat soundly by MI in South Bend. The only team besides MI that can make a case for # 2 is USC. Remember MI only lost by four points in Ohio State, they certainly have a strong argument for a rematch on a neutral field for the title.

I would think that a forward-thinking, team oriented sports fan like yourself would like to see college football progress past 1996 (Florida and Florida State).

 

[Adam Barkley]

The only team besides MI that can make a case for # 2 is USC.

What? What? Notre Dame got beaten by a team that before yesterday was ranked 2nd in the Nation. I believe Michigan was in the top ten when they beat ND. A powerhouse so to speak.

USC got beat by an unranked PAC10 team. If Kirk Herbstreet and his clones weren't so in love with that team, they would be sitting around 15th in the nation right now (after beating two ranked opponents). When they beat Stanford, a team that just picked up it's first win a week ago, they jumped up two spots from 9th to 7th. Two spots for beating a team that was 0-8. USC doesn't deserve crap.

 

[burk48237]

I would think that a forward-thinking, team oriented sports fan like yourself would like to see college football progress past 1996 (Florida and Florida State).

The difference is FL and FL state spent the rest of their schedules feasting on South Hampton Institute of Technology and the Central FL Chiropractic institute. MI. dominated ND in So. Bend, and OSU trounced Texas in TX. Their is no way in my mind that either one of those teams should be moved up ahead of MI. whose only loss was a very close one to the number one team in their house. That only leaves USC, who are of dubious quality themselves, that demands a rematch.

 

[MJ5150]

I believe Michigan was in the top ten when they beat ND.

Michigan was #11 when they won acording to ESPN.com.

Florida deserves to be ahead of a team that just lost. In college football it is all about when you lose. A loss this late in the season should rule Michigan out of the national title game.

I don't want to hear about who Florida plays. Michigan played Vanderbilt, Central Michigan, and Ball State. Hardly some powerhouse teams.

-Mike

 

[Adam Barkley]

Michigan was #11 when they won acording to ESPN.com.

Florida deserves to be ahead of a team that just lost. In college football it is all about when you lose. A loss this late in the season should rule Michigan out of the national title game.

I don't want to hear about who Florida plays. Michigan played Vanderbilt, Central Michigan, and Ball State. Hardly some powerhouse teams.

-Mike

That is exactly why I was talking OSU vs Texas for the NC. Because the Texas team that lost in week 2 was very different from the team that got going in the middle of the season. Michigan will showed exactly what they can do at this point in time. OSU could be worse, but Michigan isn't going to get better in a month of no games.

 

[MJ5150]

That is exactly why I was talking OSU vs Texas for the NC......

I was with you on that until the Texas loss to Kansas State. Are you still sticking with your USC/ND winner against OSU for the title game?

-Mike

 

[Adam Barkley]

I was with you on that until the Texas loss to Kansas State. Are you still sticking with your USC/ND winner against OSU for the title game?

-Mike

Yeah, Kansas State ruined that.

I don't know, AP still has Michigan at two. It think it'll be Notre Dame/USC, but it definitely should be either Florida, USC, ND or Arkansas before Michigan.

 

[burk48237]

That is exactly why I was talking OSU vs Texas for the NC. Because the Texas team that lost in week 2 was very different from the team that got going in the middle of the season. Michigan will showed exactly what they can do at this point in time. OSU could be worse, but Michigan isn't going to get better in a month of no games.

Not necessarily so! MI lost in a very close game in the opposing teams home field. A home field that was in lousy shape too, I might add, Their is no reason to think they couldn't make a better showing on a neutral field. It is true that Texas was a different team in week 2 , BUT they lost to Ohio State at Home, and they we're not competitive. Home field is a huge advantage in college football, not to even mention the effect of Bo's passing on MI.

It comes down to this, The two best teams in College football played yesterday for the big ten title and nothing that happened on that field yesterday supports MI going down in the standings. And I will gladly concede that OSU is the best team in the country now. But MI has proven itself with dominating wins over ranked opponents, including away victories at Penn State, ND and MN. along with a win over WS. and a close loss to far and away the best team in the country in no way diminishes that. If we want the best two teams in college football to decide the championship then MI will be in the title game, PERIOD!

 

[robb.]

i'm a big 10 guy, and even i think that florida and arkansas have legitimate claims to #2. UM is a really good team. (as an MSU guy who thinks they're consistently overrated, it doesn't even pain me to talk about how good they are this year.) but i don't think bo dying had an effect on the game. UM is not as good as OSU. they had their shot, but they couldn't pull it off. no one thought miami was beatable in 2002, but OSU did it, anyway. maybe florida, arkansas, or USC could beat OSU in the title game. ND, on the other hand, could not. they required a miracle to beat the spartans. they failed miserably at home against the only good team they played (UM).

i think it's more important to limit the BCS championship to teams who've at least won a share of the conference title. besides, the national championship is about finding the best team. i know the BCS focuses on finding the best two teams, but that is prohibitively difficult.

robb.

 

[Adam Barkley]

i'm a big 10 guy, and even i think that florida and arkansas have legitimate claims to #2. UM is a really good team. (as an MSU guy who thinks they're consistently overrated, it doesn't even pain me to talk about how good they are this year.) but i don't think bo dying had an effect on the game. UM is not as good as OSU. they had their shot, but they couldn't pull it off. no one thought miami was beatable in 2002, but OSU did it, anyway. maybe florida, arkansas, or USC could beat OSU in the title game. ND, on the other hand, could not. they required a miracle to beat the spartans. they failed miserably at home against the only good team they played (UM).

i think it's more important to limit the BCS championship to teams who've at least won a share of the conference title. besides, the national championship is about finding the best team. i know the BCS focuses on finding the best two teams, but that is prohibitively difficult.

robb.

Again that Notre Dame team that choked at home is still a good team. It's just a guess, but I don't think it is too far-fetched.

The BCS is flawed, but really only in the "popularity contest" and "close-chase" scenarios.

 

[SomecallmeTim]

UM is not as good as OSU. they had their shot, but they couldn't pull it off.

This is pretty much where I stand. I enjoyed the Michigan - OSU game immensely yesterday, but I'd like to see another team get a shot at OSU.

If USC wins out, I'd have to give them the nod. If not, I'd like to see an SEC team in the championship game.

 

[v-12]

UM is not as good as OSU. they had their shot, but they couldn't pull it off.

i don't know if i agree with that. if the game wouldn't have been close, i would completely agree that another team should get the chance to play them. but do you honestly believe the outcome would have been the same if the game was in the big house this year? on a neutral field?
hopefully we'll find out in the rematch .