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New ampeg speculation - A true B15 Reissue?

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beans-on-toast said:
Cathode bias also becomes apparent with dramatic input swings. If you aren't playing or are playing a quiet passage and then dig in, the dramatic voltage swing shifts the changing bias too far. This overshooting results in a gritty short lived distortion. The bias then settles back to where it should be. This is a characteristic of cathode biased amps. This is coupled with the sag in the power supply that also causes some grit.
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i've heard that on occasion. i like it. thx for the explanation.
 
#562
beans-on-toast said:
Cathode bias also becomes apparent with dramatic input swings. If you aren't playing or are playing a quiet passage and then dig in, the dramatic voltage swing shifts the changing bias too far. This overshooting results in a gritty short lived distortion. The bias then settles back to where it should be. This is a characteristic of cathode biased amps. This is coupled with the sag in the power supply that also causes some grit.
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It's also generally much more noticeable in guitar amps, and less noticeable in bass amps due to the design of bass amps generally being intended to be more "clean".
 
#565
JimmyM said:
oh well, not like it hurts to have it on there. i'm sure most will have a preference one way or the other.

man, ampeg are evil bastards! how dare they threaten my marriage by making a limited edition b-15 reissue that's pretty much exactly what i like!

so i guess we know pretty much everything about it now except what speaker's in it. looks like a jbl d140 but could they have actually talked jbl into making new d140's for it? i doubt it. maybe a weber clone? maybe an eminence clone? something else altogether?

the mind wobbles.
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i really don't think that you could get JBL to make a reissue D140F for an amp in such limited numbers. i'll bet it's an 8 ohm D140 version the Eminence 'commonwealth' speaker that is supposed to be a JBL clone. fender uses a 4 ohm version of it in one of ther amps (IRRC it's the blackface pro). it has a 3" aluminum dust cap, and they say it's sounds just like a D130F.
 
#566
JayAmel said:
There's a thread here where I was explaining I had planned the purchase of an Heritage SVT-CL and matching Heritage SVT-810E for next Spring. That was my way of saying Ampeg, "hey guys, you're going the right way again".

Due to that "50 rockstars only" policy around the B15, my plan now seems useless and pointless. I'll buy a Mesa next Spring.
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If the product is made well and sounds good (both of which are certainly true about the Heritage SVT), aren't you just shooting yourself in the foot?
 
#567
he's just joshing.

no he's not. i don't blame ampeg for printing up a cautious run of these amps. they're not going to be cheap, and 30w is not an easy sell to the kids who are used to 300w minimum. so you figure a few rock stars, a few up and comers, a few studios, a few hedge fund nerds who rock on the weekends, that's about the market for a high dollar high end reissue. sucks i won't be able to get one, but not everything is meant for me to have. having one already tames the sting of that realization considerably, though ;)
 
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johnk_10 said:
i really don't think that you could get JBL to make a reissue D140F for an amp in such limited numbers. i'll bet it's an 8 ohm D140 version the Eminence 'commonwealth' speaker that is supposed to be a JBL clone. fender uses a 4 ohm version of it in one of ther amps (IRRC it's the blackface pro). it has a 3" aluminum dust cap, and they say it's sounds just like a D130F.
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interesting, and it's only the same price a jbl costs used. actually you might even get a jbl cheaper.
 
#572
I think that there's a market for a high priced boutique style Heritage B-15. By having a small run of 50 units, they will create enough of a buying frenzy to ensure that they sell out. If the demand for more Heritage amps is clearly there, they would be crazy not to put out subsequent runs at a later date. On the other hand, all this is going to create interest in a more affordable non-heritage version of the B-15. That's where they are going to make their money. With 50 units @ $5,000 this is only $250,000 gross. This doesn't even cover their R&D costs to put the product into production. They are operating at a loss. Heritage gives the company good PR to help them restore their reputation and offers a springboard for more profitable products. The Heritage division has a lot of potential down the road.

I hope that a Heritage version of the SVT-VR is not too far away. Somehow I think that I'm going to have to wait at least another year.

Time will tell as their strategy is revealed.
 
#573
I feel like Loud Technologies just punched me in my twins. Making only 50 units is like saying “Good luck trying to buy the B-15. If you want something similar buy our inferior 2011 Asian hybrid.” I was so excited last week but now my stomach is all knotted with despair…I need a Tums.

Hopefully demand triumphs in the end.
 
#574
Mad Maestro said:
I feel like Loud Technologies just punched me in my twins. Making only 50 units is like saying “Good luck trying to buy the B-15. If you want something similar buy our inferior 2011 Asian hybrid.” I was so excited last week but now my stomach is all knotted with despair…I need a Tums.

Hopefully demand triumphs in the end.
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what's stopping you from getting one? they're likely not going to sell out in an hour.
 
#575
Honestly, if everyone would get their emotions in check (me included), this should not cost more than $1000. But we have created a mystique about this amp here, and now $5000 is starting to sound quite reasonable, and it isn't. No matter what. It's a friggin' bass amp! I would not pay more than $1000 for this. Made in the USA.
 
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Rob Martinez said:
Honestly, if everyone would get their emotions in check (me included), this should not cost more than $1000. But we have created a mystique about this amp here, and now $5000 is starting to sound quite reasonable, and it isn't. No matter what. It's a friggin' bass amp! I would not pay more than $1000 for this. Made in the USA.
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what decade are you living in?
there haven't been any point to point hand made combos that sell for $1K new, in the USA or anywhere else.
 
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