Roger Waters

[Charlzm]

A perfect example of the sum being greater than the parts. Pink Floyd without Waters has been like a tribute band that tries to write in the style of the original band and Waters without Gilmour has disappeared into his own navel by failing to craft listenable songs that stick in the mind's ear.

That being said, I prefer the post-Floyd Waters albums to the Gilmour-led releases. But I very much prefer the post-Barret period the best, especially from "Meddle" through to "The Final Cut".

 

[Jaymo]

I love watching old people behave like spoiled toddlers.

 

[bassdude51]

I saw an interview with Roger Waters on either CBS 60 Minutes or it might have been a Dan Rather interview with him on a cable TV channel.

Roger is very intelligent and I enjoyed listening to him. I could see from his personality, that there could be clashes with certain types of people. Overall, I liked Roger.

But, I will say that I hate it when rock stars use their status to get political!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roger is political.

The 3 "no, no" subjects.........religion, politics and money.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

yawn.

 

[58kites]

And then one for me, which I waited about 43 years to take this picture to fulfil the first time I heard this song when it was a new song in 1975 and I was 13 years old (the only difference is Mom saw Elvis in 1956 and bought me my first guitar, and the reason I didn't like school was they were holding me back from what I wanted to learn, so I made straight "A's," got a scholarship, left high school a semester early, and got my BA summa cum laude in 27 months: January 1980 to May 1982).

Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
Where have you been? It's alright we know where you've been.
You've been in the pipeline, filling in time,
provided with toys and Scouting for Boys.
You bought a guitar to punish your ma,
And you didn't like school, and you know you're nobody's fool,
So welcome to the machine.
Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
What did you dream? It's alright we told you what to dream.
You dreamed of a big star, he played a mean guitar,
He always ate in the Steak Bar. He loved to drive in his Jaguar.
So welcome to the machine.

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Huh?

 

[Jaymo]

I saw an interview with Roger Waters on either CBS 60 Minutes or it might have been a Dan Rather interview with him on a cable TV channel.

Roger is very intelligent and I enjoyed listening to him. I could see from his personality, that there could be clashes with certain types of people. Overall, I liked Roger.

But, I will say that I hate it when rock stars use their status to get political!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roger is political.

The 3 "no, no" subjects.........religion, politics and money.

Like Alice Cooper said, "Politics has no place in Rock and Roll."

And, for the record, I didn't like any of the solo albums put out by Gilmour OR Waters.
I like Pink Floyd.

What I've had to do since I was a teenager, is separate the art from the artist.
Sometimes brilliant work is created by complete ********.

 

[Honkey tonk]

He wrote a alot of what most think, that is Pink floyd . So ?

Category:Songs written by Roger Waters - Wikipedia

If he ain't floyd ?

 

[Lagado]

Grey Floyd.

 

[Yango]

Huh?

 

[GregC]

I saw an interview with Roger Waters on either CBS 60 Minutes or it might have been a Dan Rather interview with him on a cable TV channel.

Roger is very intelligent and I enjoyed listening to him. I could see from his personality, that there could be clashes with certain types of people. Overall, I liked Roger.

But, I will say that I hate it when rock stars use their status to get political!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roger is political.

The 3 "no, no" subjects.........religion, politics and money.

Funny, I would say some of the best rock songs ever cover one or more of these subjects. Also, ahem...

 

[charlie monroe]

He wrote a alot of what most think, that is Pink floyd . So ?

Category:Songs written by Roger Waters - Wikipedia

If he ain't floyd ?

Bob Dylan wrote “All along the Watchtower” but it took Hendrix to make it listenable.

I see a similar relationship with Waters and Gilmour

 

[Nev375]

The 3 "no, no" subjects.........religion, politics and money.

How can we ever learn anything about those subjects unless we spend time discussing and debating them?

The more people spend inside their own echo chambers shielded from any opinion that is not their own the more divided and ignorant we become.

At some point we, as a people, are going to have to put our egos and hurt feelings aside and start figuring out what the truth is.

 

[sears]

Does it drive David, a former model, crazy that Roger is now better looking?

 

[Koshchei]

Roger is certainly not one to cross but I lost interest in Floyd after he left. Floyd seemed to become very safe coffee table music thereafter.

-- Aldous Huxley

 

[yberwaffe]

People lost interest so much that we're up to 4 pages in this uninteresting thread.

I have Dark side of the moon.
Did they made more albums after that ???
If they did, they didn't pique my interest.

 

[Lagado]

-- Aldous Huxley

Read a book.

 

[58kites]

Does it drive David, a former model, crazy that Roger is now better looking?

He does not appear to be bothered (or driven crazy) by much of anything, he seems extremely stable in every interview I've ever seen.
My guess is that he was pushed pretty hard to become frustrated enough to go to blows.
I think RW and DG are both very talented and deserve credit for the success of PF.
I also know that it is hard to be lifelong partners in a business/creative endeavor for profit, especially if you are not sleeping with your partner.

 

[Honkey tonk]

Bob Dylan wrote “All along the Watchtower” but it took Hendrix to make it listenable.

I see a similar relationship with Waters and Gilmour

Yeah no ... but Ok , what ever

 

[Koshchei]

Read a book.

I have about 10,000 in the room I'm sitting in. I've read them all, though a few are coming due for re-reading. I honestly prefer Orwell to Huxley, We notwithstanding.

 

[RogerTheAlien]

Funny, I would say some of the best rock songs ever cover one or more of these subjects. Also, ahem...

Long winded post I apologize in advance

Which is ironic when you think what all this is about.

A few people here pooping on Gilmour, I'm a huge Floyd fan and those who forget that previous to Meddle, 8 albums actually, the Floyd were pretty much an instrumental band with minimal lyrics and even then, Dark Side of the Moon & Wish you were here have a fairly huge amount of Instrumental portions, actually that's how they wrote. Here's Roger's quote.

Well, there are several answers to that. I think you'll find when you speak to the other chaps, 'cos that's what one discovers over the years, is that one's own memories of how things happened and other people's memories of how things happened are often very different. My memory of how it happened was that we went to a place in... Broadhurst Gardens, off... somewhere in Kilburn, I think it is - West Hampstead, maybe it's called... anyway, we were there for a period of time - a couple of weeks or something... and we sat in a little room and played our instruments, and we got quite a lot of stuff together - music - no lyrics, or ideas or anything.

Alienation is a very strong theme in Waters lyrics but for several early Floyd fans who were going to laser shows and concerts and getting high, the lyrics were very secondary (even tertiary for some who prioritizend the solo and synthy stuff until Animals). Excellent article on this via Brain-Damage website from the 80s where even Roger talks about going back to soundtracks for his own projects due to the heaviness of what his output was at the time.

Pink Floyd after Roger wasn't perfect but it was a modern output of how the band used to work until Animals and the Wall, I listened to Rogers stuff after and he's worked with epic musicians but it was never on the level of what he created with David who at least ( I personally like On an Island) worked with Polly to deliver some semblance of lyrical cohesion. Ironically some of my favourite pieces he produced on Amused to Death like the Ballad of Bill Hubbard are instrumentals.