I've been playing bass for 45 years blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. What's that got to do with anything? Close this steaming pile down please.
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Roger's take, in a nutshell
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Well, I thought this was going to finally settle the tonewood debate.
A bass player friend of mine had one of your basses in the early 90's which he let me try out. To this day it's the finest bass I have ever laid hands on. It virtually played itself. I'm going to go with your opinion on all of this @Sadowsky
How any of these people have the audacity to say something like this about you is mind boggling to say the least.
Well at least the 410/15 cabs threads have died down.
I think there have been unusually few personal attacks, for TB, in this thread, imo. I'm not sure what's so objectionable. It's pretty straightforwardly a thread about a widely respected Luther's considered opinions on aspects of wood in instrument construction. Some have different opinions, that's fine.
Arguing opinions for 11 pages doesn't get anybody anywhere and it doesn't change anybody's mind.
I fully agree!
If I might expound a bit further. If you have band mates who care about the band sound/dynamics, they’ll be on board with how you’re coming across and get into it. You being moved to play better because you’re getting “your sound” tends to inspire the rest of the group. Last Saturday’s gig was good example for me regarding this.
There are apparently people who genuinely believe that, of the thousand or so variables affecting a musician's experience on stage -- traffic being annoying on the way to the venue, the bar manager agreeing (or not) to turn off the giant TV screen behind the band's heads (while leaving the other twelve on), etc. -- differences in body or neck wood can make or break the player's performance.
The effects of those differences, if any, are demonstrably well within confirmation bias territory. The proof? -- the endless threads on the topic.
This is not to say that the effects of confirmation bias can be dismissed out of hand. There are now research facilities devoted to Link Removed and how those effects can be used to improve treatment outcomes. If players can be convinced that tonewood choices can result in a better playing experience, even if the effects are imaginary, those players might indeed play better than they would otherwise.
Here's the real point. Listen up:
80% of Talkbass is most likely amateur players (myself included) littered with semipro and some pro players and builders/designers. Just because you are on a thread regarding a Master Builder of legendary status considering his clientele doesn't mean you reserved the right to even think you can make uneducated guesses about him.
It's best to just not make a fool of yourself on here. It's the internet and it's a public forum.
80% of Talkbass is most likely amateur players (myself included) littered with semipro and some pro players and builders/designers. Just because you are on a thread regarding a Master Builder of legendary status considering his clientele doesn't mean you reserved the right to even think you can make uneducated guesses about him.
It's best to just not make a fool of yourself on here. It's the internet and it's a public forum.
It's one thing to say "I'm informed on the topic and my opinion is different from yours". It's a totally different thing to say "your opinion is invalid because you make money for having an opinion".
I sincerely hope none of those posters work in sales in any capacity and never make any kind of recommendations to their employers. Their motivations would be certainly be outright misleading. Or they're just completely inconsistent. Probably the latter.
If people are posting and having fun, then it isn't your or mine to decide what should and shouldn't be discussed here, just ignore it if you don't like it. That's what I'm gonna do here because this is the BEST forum for bass or music I have found yet. Haven't tried many guitar forums but considering the differences between guitar players and bass players (I play guitar too), I'll stick with this one.
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Wonderful. The old Karen thing. How about I just ignore the rest of your post?
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Yeah, 11 pages and not even any good jokes :{
And what's a Karen?
[Edit: OK, never mind]
Considering what you're trying to prove though about Karens your post comes off as kind of ironic...
You haven't been here long enough to see this same discussion play out 4000 times. It never changes anyone's mind.
