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[BurningSkies]

I've seen a few people putting there 1210's and 1212's on their sides when playing. Do you owners of these cab find they sound better this way? And do you put the angled speaker facing down or upwards?

I tried it a few time and didn't like the result. The cab got 'honkey' to my ears. I did it with the baffle pointed up.

 

[Halftooth]

I've seen a few people putting there 1210's and 1212's on their sides when playing. Do you owners of these cab find they sound better this way? And do you put the angled speaker facing down or upwards?

I noticed more low-end having the cab on it's side with the angled speaker facing upwards. When I put the cab the way it would be traditionally seen, I noticed a more pronounced mid-range prescence. This was just in my home studio though...not a very in depth trial in various settings.

 

[Larry Kaye]

First of all, Garbagebassdude.....do you already have an Eden 850B? You can run it with a 1210 without worry!!! However, the 400 should be plenty volume and if you like the Eden head's tone in general, this should be a very good combination.

As far as the basses go, there have been some posts that the P bass REALLY shines using a Schroeder. I have an Active J type bass and it really sounds great. I would be very interested in hearing an SR5 through my stuff. It's already got a punchy-ass tone and more top end at the same time than my Mike Lull does. Please don't hesitate to let us know how that combo sounds together.

Good Luck.

Lkaye

 

[DAcat]

Hey guys -After playing bass since 66,I've officially joined the Schroeder Club this weekend-after trying out a 1210 and a 410-I had no problems in making the choice of the 410-and am I in BASS Heaven (or Bottom? )! the 1210 just didn't have quite enough bottom at lower frequencies at higher volumes to my ear-and the 410's speakers were easily more efficient and louder at the same amp settings when switching back and forth between cabs leaving the amp on the same settings. At our very loud practice today I used a SWR 350( I'll be using this head for awhile till I find THE head to complement this incredible cab)and our band never sounded so good.The bass punched through so nice and fat and full without taking over the room and the tone was luscious without any and the distortion SWR was never turned up past 11:00 on the master and 12:00 on the gain. I just have to say one more time that Jorg has done a real favor to us bassists....I've never felt so exited and at peace at the same time about my rig since when I first got my first 2 Acoustic 360/361s in 1970-no worries about whether your rig will be up the challenges of practice and gigs and recording as well...now back to my amp decision... could all you Schro 410 owners give me some advice on what amps you've been using and the pros and cons of each....I tried out a Yorkville 800 head and it was a little too cool, distorted/harsh-not as warm as I hoped-though I'm not quite sure I got the hang of it because its got a lot of possible tweaking potential and I did like some of its sound-just not sure yet .... so I do have an Eden 800 and a GK RB1000II nearby I can take my cab to try out-but I'm willing to try any reccomendations that sound promising-after all-this site helped me to find this cab. And,to any one out there who is even contemplating getting a Schroeder-STOP CONTEMPLATING ...and do your self a big favor and just go out and try one out somewhere- anywhere you can-you owe it to YOURSELF! ....Peace...DAcat...

 

[popinfresh]

Hey guys -After playing bass since 66,I've officially joined the Schroeder Club this weekend-after trying out a 1210 and a 410-I had no problems in making the choice of the 410-and am I in BASS Heaven (or Bottom? )! the 1210 just didn't have quite enough bottom at lower frequencies at higher volumes to my ear-and the 410's speakers were easily more efficient and louder at the same amp settings when switching back and forth between cabs leaving the amp on the same settings. At our very loud practice today I used a SWR 350( I'll be using this head for awhile till I find THE head to complement this incredible cab)and our band never sounded so good.The bass punched through so nice and fat and full without taking over the room and the tone was luscious without any and the distortion SWR was never turned up past 11:00 on the master and 12:00 on the gain. I just have to say one more time that Jorg has done a real favor to us bassists....I've never felt so exited and at peace at the same time about my rig since when I first got my first 2 Acoustic 360/361s in 1970-no worries about whether your rig will be up the challenges of practice and gigs and recording as well...now back to my amp decision... could all you Schro 410 owners give me some advice on what amps you've been using and the pros and cons of each....I tried out a Yorkville 800 head and it was a little too cool, distorted/harsh-not as warm as I hoped-though I'm not quite sure I got the hang of it because its got a lot of possible tweaking potential and I did like some of its sound-just not sure yet .... so I do have an Eden 800 and a GK RB1000II nearby I can take my cab to try out-but I'm willing to try any reccomendations that sound promising-after all-this site helped me to find this cab. And,to any one out there who is even contemplating getting a Schroeder-STOP CONTEMPLATING ...and do your self a big favor and just go out and try one out somewhere- anywhere you can-you owe it to YOURSELF! ....Peace...DAcat...

Pleased to hear another 410 owner is happy

I'm using my all tube V8. Sounds damn awesome. After some more tweaking since my thread, i've gotten a really fat sound from the rig, but never boomy or muddy. I can still get a crisp top end, or heaps of mid growl. Aalll good

I hear the Thunderfunk is a great match for the Schroeders.. Big, warm, fat etc.
I'd also suggest trying an Eden to match with it

 

[BuffaloBob4343]

DAcat,

Did you get to try a 21012 while you were at it?

 

[fclefgeoff]

I am using an Aguilar AG-500 with my Schroeder 410. I LOVE it. In the store, I tried the 1210, 1212, 101012, & 410 with an Aguilar AG-500 SC and thought the 410 sounded best.

I recommend the Aguilar AG-500 for sure. I was afraid that 500 watts might be underpowered for a cab rated at 1400 watts but I have no problems whatsoever with my tone and I have more headroom than I will probably ever need.

YAY! Schroeder cabs are great.

 

[BuffaloBob4343]

I am using an Aguilar AG-500 with my Schroeder 410. I LOVE it. In the store, I tried the 1210, 1212, 101012, & 410 with an Aguilar AG-500 SC and thought the 410 sounded best.

I recommend the Aguilar AG-500 for sure. I was afraid that 500 watts might be underpowered for a cab rated at 1400 watts but I have no problems whatsoever with my tone and I have more headroom than I will probably ever need.

YAY! Schroeder cabs are great.

Do you remember what you liked better about the 410 ver the 21012/

Just curious because I'm about to buy the 21012!!!

 

[fclefgeoff]

Well, if I remember correctly, I felt the 410 had more punch. The 101012 wasn't bad but was rounder sounding and very similar to a 2x10/1x15 stack to my ears. The 410 sounded like a typical 4x10 but better. Sorry, I am not the best a describing the tone. I'd say if you can, try them out first.

This is strictly MY opinion but...

If you're the type of person that likes a 2x10/1x15, then you'll probably like the 101012. If you're the type of person that likes a 4x10, 6x10, or 8x10 then you'll probably prefer the 410.

They are ALL excellent cabs and I think most of us would be happy with any of them. I was originally going to purchase the 1210 but felt that if I bought the 410 (which is similar in tone), I'd never need another cabinet. I LOVE MY 410!

 

[DAcat]

DAcat,

Did you get to try a 21012 while you were at it?

BBob-No I didn't-wish I could have ,though I can't imagine being happier...Peace...DAcat

 

[didier]

I was at a wedding in NY this weekend and for the first time (that I know of) heard a Schroeder cab in a live setting.

Man I am impressed. It was a small cab, I don't know if it was 1210 or 1212, and I don't know what head he was using. It was a Ric bass and sounded great through the setup. There was some help, probably not neeeded, from the PA.

I understand now what all the fuss is about. I surely do really want one of these.

 

[Larry Kaye]

I have been using my 1210 and 410 Schroeder for the past 6 months now...Also bought my Acoustic Image Focus around the same time. It's really amazing...the only people who come up to me and ask are other bass players and occasional guitarist and keyboardists. They're most curious about the Focus because of it's size but have made comments about the cabinets indirectly like, "you mean you're not going through the PA?" or "Every note you hit, even on the very low end of the bass, just punch out like crazy" or "I can really hear each note you play clear as day."

On the other side of the coin, I feel that I'm playing better, taking more chances/pushing myself more, and am much much happier every gig. I have complete confidence that I can get my rig to sound consistently excellent (to my ears) in almost any size room regardless of acoustical challenges.

Whether or not the Schroe's sound "the best, great, good, OK, fair, or not as good etc as some other cabinets is in the ears of the beholder. What isn't subjective is the volume vs size of the equipment and the ability to hear yourself clearly on stage compared to most other cabinets I've used, and that for the size of the cabinets, you get a lotta horsepower.

Lkaye

 

[Akami]

I have been using my 1210 and 410 Schroeder for the past 6 months now...Also bought my Acoustic Image Focus around the same time. It's really amazing...the only people who come up to me and ask are other bass players and occasional guitarist and keyboardists.
Lkaye

Yeah, it'd be kinda nice if the public came up with comments like that too... but on the other hand, they say things like "You guys are great", never thinking how much our performances might be helped out by the equipment!

Anyway I wanted to say how much I enjoy your posting style and the fact that you try to be clear and accurate as opposed to being overly opinion heavy and some of your posting helped influence my purchase of both the Focus and 1210!
That said I'm thinking I may be trying a swap to either a 1212 or 21012 for the thicker bottom.

By the way, Schroeder is now in Japan and I saw two 1210's and one Mini12 at the Musical Instrument Fair last weekend!

When I mentioned that I'd been to their store a couple weeks ago and hadn't seen the cabs there they said it was because they just showed up in time for the Fair!

I just built a page on Yahoo for most of the pics I took this last weekend!
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[SnoMan]

Ok, quick question. I'd probably be better off starting a new thread on this or searching, but this deals with my schreoders tone....and my tone is just killer right now to my ears.


Here's my problem. My carvin DCM1000 is Clipping while bridged. And I don't even have it turned to half volume.

My Bmax setup looks like this:
Treble: 10'oclock to noon
mids: 10' to noon
bass: noon to 3'

gain and master are around noon

sonic maximizer is set bother contour and process between 10' and noon

My bass, schecter deluxe 4, has had a review or two about being heavy handed on the low end. My band also detunes to C#( :scowl: )

Can anyone advise me on keeping the carvin's clipping to an absolute minimum, I have no desire to damage my 1210

Thanks

 

[Jonesy4fnk]

Here's my problem. My carvin DCM1000 is Clipping while bridged. And I don't even have it turned to half volume.


Can anyone advise me on keeping the carvin's clipping to an absolute minimum, I have no desire to damage my 1210

Thanks

are you using a Speakon cable? Is it wired in bridged configuration? My SVT4 was clipping in bridged mode until I learned that I had been using the wrong Speakon for years.

 

[SnoMan]

I am running a speakon.

I will double check it's config this evening

 

[Larry Kaye]

Thanks for the comment on the writing style. I feel that all the groups I've played in have "gone over better", meaning more and more positive crowd reaction since I switched to Schroeder, not ever thinking that it's because maybe the band "sounds" better, or maybe there's more energy on stage because of the improved "sound". I would love to think that I had some positive contribution to the subjective notion of crowd participation and acceptance, but won't go that far.

Wanted to ask you about the Musicman basses in your pictures....since when do they make stingrays and sterlings with two pickups? Is that strictly an export thing? I haven't been to their website in years so I don't know but the one obvious negative to their non-Bongo basses is the perceived limitation on versatility because of the one pickup especially placed where it is, yes?

Good luck on your going after a 1212 or 21012. YOu may want to consider adding the 1212 instead of selling and buying a larger cab obviously depending on your finances. The guys on the megathread who have a 1210 and 1212 seem to be really satisfied, and use the 1212 as their one cabinet solution, and both for concerts or even louder stage or venue volume for whatever reason.

Lkaye

 

[Dan1099]

Ok, quick question. I'd probably be better off starting a new thread on this or searching, but this deals with my schreoders tone....and my tone is just killer right now to my ears.


Here's my problem. My carvin DCM1000 is Clipping while bridged. And I don't even have it turned to half volume.

My Bmax setup looks like this:
Treble: 10'oclock to noon
mids: 10' to noon
bass: noon to 3'

gain and master are around noon

sonic maximizer is set bother contour and process between 10' and noon

My bass, schecter deluxe 4, has had a review or two about being heavy handed on the low end. My band also detunes to C#( :scowl: )

Can anyone advise me on keeping the carvin's clipping to an absolute minimum, I have no desire to damage my 1210

Thanks

Whoa, those are some pretty intesnse settings on the BMax. You do realize that flat is 2-10-2, right?

 

[SnoMan]

Yeah, I generally run it flat. I was just playing around with the settings and the tone just started jumping out and hitting me in the face.

then it took my wallet



I was wondering if I am clipping due to EQmadness, but damn...it sounds mean...punch right past the peavey's I'm working with

I'll have to square it back to flat and see how it responds

 

[Jonesy4fnk]

I am running a speakon.

I will double check it's config this evening

if you've been able to run your rig in stereo (or 2 sides mono) with the same Speakon, then its wired for standard use not bridged. Basically the bridged wiring won't work for standard stereo configuration, but the oppsite will work, just won;t give you the bridged output level.

I think on the Carvins, bridged speakons should be wired
1+ = +
2+ = -