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Schroeder Cabinets ... smart design = very compact ! (regular and lights)

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embellisher said:
Brian, unfortunately there is nobody around here that sells Acoustic Image stuff, so I can't really try one out. Does it sound as thick and warm as the iAmp?
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I should know this weekend, I'm hooking up with a guy and his Focus to give my Schroeder a go with it. It should be a trip... the dude is bassist for a world famous rock band based out of my area :ninja: His name didn't click till after a couple emails!
 
#502
embellisher said:
Brian, unfortunately there is nobody around here that sells Acoustic Image stuff, so I can't really try one out. Does it sound as thick and warm as the iAmp?
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The general consensus that I've heard from players who use both is that the iAmp is the rounder, warmer sounding of the two, however neither one sounds like an SVT!

I have a Sansamp DI and it works quite well with the iAmp, although for most non-hard rock gigs I just run the amp without it (sans-sansamp? :) ), since the iAmp800 EQ allows me to get a very fat, warm sound - it just doesn't do the overdrive thing.

There are a number of posts on the topic of comparing those two, well worth doing a search ;) .
 
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Scooperman said:
The general consensus that I've heard from players who use both is that the iAmp is the rounder, warmer sounding of the two, however neither one sounds like an SVT!

I have a Sansamp DI and it works quite well with the iAmp, although for most non-hard rock gigs I just run the amp without it (sans-sansamp? :) ), since the iAmp800 EQ allows me to get a very fat, warm sound - it just doesn't do the overdrive thing.

There are a number of posts on the topic of comparing those two, well worth doing a search ;) .
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Oh, I have read all of the iAmp threads at least 5 times in the last 48 hours!:eek::D

I realize that neither of these amps will sound like an overdriven tube amp, but I am planning on getting a Sansamp or PreSonus for that sound. But I have read a few posts where the iAmp is characterized as sounding 'thick', while maintaining clarity and clean sound. And at least one post where it was characterized as 'thicker' sounding than an AI Clarus.
 
#504
James Hart said:
I should know this weekend, I'm hooking up with a guy and his Focus to give my Schroeder a go with it. It should be a trip... the dude is bassist for a world famous rock band based out of my area :ninja: His name didn't click till after a couple emails!
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Yea, I got the idea the name didn't hit you from your e-mail's and reply back to me about trying to hook up so he could check out the cab. I figured you would be excited when you figured it out.

Nice guy, treat him well ;)
 
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embellisher said:
Oh, I have read all of the iAmp threads at least 5 times in the last 48 hours!:eek::D

I realize that neither of these amps will sound like an overdriven tube amp, but I am planning on getting a Sansamp or PreSonus for that sound. But I have read a few posts where the iAmp is characterized as sounding 'thick', while maintaining clarity and clean sound. And at least one post where it was characterized as 'thicker' sounding than an AI Clarus.
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Yeah, that seems to be the consensus. The iamp can sound very warm and thick. I've only heard the AI with upright played through it and thick was not the sound they were trying to achieve.

Also, the iamp800 really does handle 2 ohm loads, whereas I've heard that there may be some issues with attempting that with the Clarus. Not unimportant to consider if you're getting a 1210, which is 4 ohms. The fattest sound I've ever had was my iamp800 powering both my 1210 and my Acme Low B2 at 4 ohms each. The iamp didn't even get warm.
 
#509
Brian B needs to give me a heads up when he's giving my email address out to pro players....

I emailed back and forth as if he was just a regular joe like me, all the time thinking I know this name from somewhere, like in a Sadowsky Ad in Bass Player Mag :eek: I'm hoping to hook up my Schroeder with Hugh McDonald from Bon Jovi fame!

Anyway, Hey Hugh! (I gave him the link to this thread yesterday). Maybe I can get him to sign up as a "Talk Bass Pro" :bassist:
 
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ok, I guess I shouldn't have tempted you all.......

80's hit band from NJ. He wasn't the original Live performing bassist, but was the Studio bassist for most of the albums. He now is the live performing bassist and has a number of other projects.
Maybe James can get a Picture when they hook up this week. He's a super nice guy, but he doesn't play Schroeder cabs, he is just wanting to check one out. He is actually endorsed by EBS for the band Tours. The Schroeder is something he is wanting to check out for personal local gigs he does around NY and NJ area.

Thanks and sorry for side tracking the thread...... Bad James :D

[edit] James let the cat out of the bag ;)
 
#514
Brian Barrett said:
Be careful what you say and respectful!
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Definately! My wife will tell you they are going strong and better then ever.

He mentioned the EBS combos he uses around town and his new Focus needing some cabinets. He's looking at a few different boutique cabs... I just happen to own one he wants to try and work about 15 minutes from where he's at.
 
#516
Regardless of how "big", or "cool" this guy is, he should still be treated like anyone else. From what I could gather in James post, he would have treated the guy different if he knew who he was.

I didn't say anything disrespectful. Treat the guy like anyone else, and Bon Jovi was huge 20 years ago.

-Mike
 
#517
alexclaber said:
Interesting (as an Acme owner)! How do they compare?

Alex
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Those who have been following this thread since it began sometime during the reign of Queen Victoria ;) may remember that I was going to perform (with the help of jivetkr and slinkp) a "bass cab taste test" featuring the Acme Low B2, the Schroeder 1210, and the EA CXL112, as powered by iAmp800, Demeter/Stewart, and Eden heads.

That will happen. Someday. Really.

In the mean time, my impressions (very subjective) are that for my tone, at low volumes in small room - such as my livingroom, The Acme is closer to what I want when driven flat. Lot's of the "good" upper mids, with room shaking bottom, lots of (good) stuff happening at sub 60 hz. I can get close to that overall sound with the 1210, but only after taking a chunk out at 500hz.

However:

Once you turn the amp up and/or get the cab into a bigger room, the need to use EQ to get those results with the 1210 dissapears and it sounds fantastic running flat. The Acme Low B2 is loud when standing near the cabinet and the 1210 might be slightly louder in the same position (it certainly is way more efficient ;) )

But

The biggest difference in favor of the Schroeder is that it cuts a bit better through the other instruments (the low-mids are just so present!) and it projects thoughout the room better than any other cab I've owned. If it's loud enough for me standing next to it, then it's loud enough for everybody in the club, and it will saound pretty much the same everywhere in the room

Bonus: Andy does not recommend drilling holes in the Acmes for casters, but Jorg will actually install casters in his stuff for you for a small fee! (Check to see if he still has time to do that, though!)

Seriously, they are both terrific cabinets that take two very cool, completely different approaches from the legions of Ampeg/SWR/Eden clones out there. I intend on keeping both.

That being said, if I had to bring only one of them to a gig, I probably would bring the 1210, which is exactly what I've done this past month.

Someday I'll bring them both on a gigging situation, but living in New York, I'll probably wait until I have to, as transporting gear by taxi makes you want to travel as lightly as possible. This is such an omnipresent fact among New York musicians that you can usually tell where a band is from by the nature of their rig... In fact, I used to play a game at gigs by looking at the rigs of other (unknown to me) bands. The game was called "New York, New Jersey or Long Island?". I can't remember the last time I was wrong. :D

Oh yeah, and I will do that cabinet "shoot out" soon.

Really.
 
#518
Scooperman said:
Bonus: Andy does not recommend drilling holes in the Acmes for casters, but Jorg will actually install casters in his stuff for you for a small fee! (Check to see if he still has time to do that, though!) Really.
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Seth;

I'll always make time for anyone who has questions concerning the Schroeders or casters installation.
:)

Sincerely,

Jorg
 
#519
Scooperman said:
The biggest difference in favor of the Schroeder is that it cuts a bit better through the other instruments (the low-mids are just so present!) and it projects thoughout the room better than any other cab I've owned. If it's loud enough for me standing next to it, then it's loud enough for everybody in the club, and it will saound pretty much the same everywhere in the room
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so are low mids now the in thing again at tb? last time i checked, everyone jumped off of eden because of the low mid hump and went to boutique cabs. now we're jumping on another low mid ship again? :confused: :D
 
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narud said:
so are low mids now the in thing again at tb? last time i checked, everyone jumped off of eden because of the low mid hump and went to boutique cabs. now we're jumping on another low mid ship again? :confused: :D
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You can trust me when I state that the Schroeders sound different to Eden cabinets. Has nothing to do with low mid humps :)
 
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