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SPECTOR® Club - Part 65

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Fat240 said:
Sounds awesome, I like that you are doing this style with less vocals. It's something that I could come home to, go into the man cave, turn off the lights and unwind to. Being able to connect to music through my own interpitation is very exciting for me.

I am looking forward to hearing Bunk's material also and see where that goes compared to the DC stuff.
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Man cave music - there's a new genre! :hiding:

I probably have one or two songs that could work in DC, but my stuff tends to be a little more introspective. Not as much shredding, unless I get others to play solos. I am a serviceable guitar soloist I think, and I tend to favor melodic solos that reinforce the melodic themes of the song vs. shredding.

My big thing is I love big, lush synth sounds or orchestration. I like stuff to be cinematic. You could probably tell from the one song I posted a while back - strings and choirs everywhere LOL.
 
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bunkaroo said:
Man cave music - there's a new genre! :hiding:

I probably have one or two songs that could work in DC, but my stuff tends to be a little more introspective. Not as much shredding, unless I get others to play solos. I am a serviceable guitar soloist I think, and I tend to favor melodic solos that reinforce the melodic themes of the song vs. shredding.

My big thing is I love big, lush synth sounds or orchestration. I like stuff to be cinematic. You could probably tell from the one song I posted a while back - strings and choirs everywhere LOL.
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Yeah, I can tell kind of what your style is and I tend to like that more than the shredding stuff. Seems that bass players tend to write material more focused on creating ambience and meaningful songs. A guitar player that I am doing some bass tracks for now is wrighting another solo album and he is all about shredding so it's not really much to do but follow the rythm on that stuff. Guess that is why I have always been into the stoner rock. Most of it is simple rooted off the E octave and blues scales, but it really moves you much more than any of the say V. Wooten and other lead bass styles.
 
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johnsonabq said:
I would like to hear your stuff. I can appreciate technical prowess but I can only really love a player with soul and feeling. e.g. My favorite guitarist of all time is David Gilmour.
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Funny you say that - I have a sort of proggy song with a long instrumental breakdown, and Gilmour is definitely on my mind for the first half of the solo. He is fantastic.
 
#365
bunkaroo said:
Funny you say that - I have a sort of proggy song with a long instrumental breakdown, and Gilmour is definitely on my mind for the first half of the solo. He is fantastic.
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Yup, I need to hear it when you're ready.

To me the pinnacle of R&R lead guitar is the two solos in Comfortably Numb. They almost make me cry. (did I just share too much? :ninja: :D)
 
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Fat240 said:
Yeah, I can tell kind of what your style is and I tend to like that more than the shredding stuff. Seems that bass players tend to write material more focused on creating ambience and meaningful songs. A guitar player that I am doing some bass tracks for now is wrighting another solo album and he is all about shredding so it's not really much to do but follow the rythm on that stuff. Guess that is why I have always been into the stoner rock. Most of it is simple rooted off the E octave and blues scales, but it really moves you much more than any of the say V. Wooten and other lead bass styles.
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Good points. Yeah lead bass has never really interested me that much. In my earlier years I felt that pull to prove myself and show off what chops I might have had. I just play for the song now. That's what moves me.

I used to start all my songs on guitar, but I found it was making me write a lot of songs in a similar fashion. I still start some songs that way, but others come from just playing around with a synth patch or simply hearing a melody in my head and building a chord progression around it. The "riff" can be constructed later. I think my best stuff comes about when I'm not "trying" too hard. :)
 
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johnsonabq said:
Yup, I need to hear it when you're ready.

To me the pinnacle of R&R lead guitar is the two solos in Comfortably Numb. They almost make me cry. (did I just share too much? :ninja: :D)
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Nah you're good. :)

You know I am not a big enough fan of Floyd to the point where I know their stuff back to front, but their impact on rock and prog is undeniable. I don't think Porcupine Tree could have ever existed as it was in the 90's without them.

Comfortably Numb is one of those songs that has suffered for it being too popular. The song is almost too good. You hear too much and it can lose its potency.

Reminds me of Pearl Jam's "Jeremy". What a great song. And then it was everywhere. I made it a point to never watch the video and turn the radio off when it was on. I only wanted to hear it when I was listening to the whole album. That has helped it not "wear out" for me.
 
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bunkaroo said:
Nah you're good. :)

You know I am not a big enough fan of Floyd to the point where I know their stuff back to front, but their impact on rock and prog is undeniable. I don't think Porcupine Tree could have ever existed as it was in the 90's without them.

Comfortably Numb is one of those songs that has suffered for it being too popular. The song is almost too good. You hear too much and it can lose its potency.

Reminds me of Pearl Jam's "Jeremy". What a great song. And then it was everywhere. I made it a point to never watch the video and turn the radio off when it was on. I only wanted to hear it when I was listening to the whole album. That has helped it not "wear out" for me.
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Understood on Numb. But for me? I played/sang that song in my band from 1986 to 1994 and never got tired of it. Must've averaged 2-3 times a week all that time. There's a power there I just get lost in. I also added low cellos at the end of the final solo via midi pedals thru a sampler. It killed!
 
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bunkaroo said:
Nah you're good. :)

You know I am not a big enough fan of Floyd to the point where I know their stuff back to front, but their impact on rock and prog is undeniable. I don't think Porcupine Tree could have ever existed as it was in the 90's without them.

Comfortably Numb is one of those songs that has suffered for it being too popular. The song is almost too good. You hear too much and it can lose its potency.

Reminds me of Pearl Jam's "Jeremy". What a great song. And then it was everywhere. I made it a point to never watch the video and turn the radio off when it was on. I only wanted to hear it when I was listening to the whole album. That has helped it not "wear out" for me.
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I just picked up a cd from a band out of Italy called Isaak, "The longer the beard the harder the sound" and they do an awesome cover of Pink Flyod's "Fearless".
 
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johnsonabq said:
Understood on Numb. But for me? I played/sang that song in my band from 1986 to 1994 and never got tired of it. Must've averaged 2-3 times a week all that time. There's a power there I just get lost in. I also added low cellos at the end of the final solo via midi pedals thru a sampler. It killed!
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Very nice! That is a good point - playing a song is different than just listening to it I think, especially if it's one you love that much. For example, I never got tired of playing any of the Journey stuff my old cover band used to play. Guilty pleasure for sure. Then again, 867-5309 couldn't end soon enough. :ninja:

I've thought about getting pedals myself. I had an old set of Taurus II pedals 20 years ago but lost them in the shuffle when I moved back here from NYC. Singing, playing bass and touching pedals - not easy!
 
#372
bunkaroo said:
I've thought about getting pedals myself. I had an old set of Taurus II pedals 20 years ago but lost them in the shuffle when I moved back here from NYC. Singing, playing bass and touching pedals - not easy!
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It was a the Taurus II pedals that started me. Bought them in 1984. I then got a CV to midi converter that I had installed into the controller and bought an Ensonic Mirage sampling keyboard to generate the sounds.

I now have a set of Roland PK-5a pedals running into a laptop with MOTU's Mach Five sampling software on it.

And yeah, I draw the line at singing and playing bass and pedals together. It's either singing and bass or bass and pedals but not all three. Since I sing lead on only about 1/3 of the songs it works out. (OK there's a couple of songs where I do all three but I'm only hitting one note on the pedals and only singing harmony. ;))
 
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johnsonabq said:
It was a the Taurus II pedals that started me. Bought them in 1984. I then got a CV to midi converter that I had installed into the controller and bought an Ensonic Mirage sampling keyboard to generate the sounds.

I now have a set of Roland PK-5a pedals running into a laptop with MOTU's Mach Five sampling software on it.

And yeah, I draw the line at singing and playing bass and pedals together. It's either singing and bass or bass and pedals but not all three. Since I sing lead on only about 1/3 of the songs it works out. (OK there's a couple of songs where I do all three but I'm only hitting one note on the pedals and only singing harmony. ;))
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Yeah best I could do back in the day was backing vocals while holding half notes on the pedals and playing a high melodic line. I think Geddy must be running two brains in his skull. :)
 
#379
Fat240 said:
Sounds awesome, I like that you are doing this style with less vocals. It's something that I could come home to, go into the man cave, turn off the lights and unwind to. Being able to connect to music through my own interpitation is very exciting for me.

I am looking forward to hearing Bunk's material also and see where that goes compared to the DC stuff.
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Thanks dude! I can't wait to share this with everyone!

bunkaroo said:
Man cave music - there's a new genre! :hiding:
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YES!! :D

johnsonabq said:
I would like to hear your stuff. I can appreciate technical prowess but I can only really love a player with soul and feeling. e.g. My favorite guitarist of all time is David Gilmour.
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+1. You can wank all day and it would really mean nothing. I believe that anyone can eventually reach a certain level of technical skills, but to produce a feel, ambiance or vibe is what really makes the music I believe.

Fat240 said:
Seems that bass players tend to write material more focused on creating ambience and meaningful songs.
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I agree with that 100%. :bassist:
 
#380
seventhframe said:
Case in point... :D

Here's an "Advanced Mix" of one of the tracks that will be on the album. Keep in mind that the drums are still the Roland kit I played on...I still have to get the studio drum files and drop them in. A buddy of mine mixed this with a good ear for the bass and also the Spector tone. This mix is focused more so on the guitars and bass and overall balance.

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I really like this song and I know your going to think I'm saying this as a bass player...but...I would turn the bass up a little, heck put in a Tool CD and get the level on Justin's bass and see if your close to it and if not match it...I mean this with respect!
 
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