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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

And here I thought you were moving gear for a baby purchase. Wise move getting all the cool new stuff in before he shows up.

I got that locked down. We consolidated two small loans we had with our credit union and used some of our savings, paid the midwife up front with a cashier's check and got a discount. Now our monthly bills are about $20 cheaper than they were before and we paid a huge expense we were sweating. I wanted a buffer with some cash on hand, in case of emergencies, so I sold some stuff but I overshot by a lot. Like $2000 more than I realistically needed (which I might never actually need anyway, just being safe). I've also got some side jobs coming up that are going to bring in some more cash. I'm spending some cash on materials to finish some lingering projects and start new ones, like the wood shop in my garage and a couple small things for which I'll actually get paid. The rest is gravy.

Things were getting a little hectic for a while with medical stuff, but it's sorted now. We were so stressed about it we tightened our belts up and really oversaved lol. One thing I'm good about is financial responsibility, saving and budgeting. It took a long time to rub off on my wife, but she's really good about that kind of thing now too.
 
My teacher sat us down and now I need me a Roth IRA and 401K stat!

In addition to standard savings, and next month I get my house so I can buy a few tools as well and expand the flippity repair business, and start building more cigar box based noise boxes for the farmers market I feel I should tap into once me and my friend lock in on our tacky crap of choice.
 
I had BEAD basses for years, but I'm sold on the 5 string format now. It's nice to have both the low B and the G string. While i don't use it a whole lot in the doom band, i like having it there.

That's the reason why I'm so heavily considering the 5 string option. More range, which I do use. Not on every song, but still. Not having to worry about using different basses for different gigs as much, would allow me to sell off some more stuff and consolidate my gear some more. Plus I can always make another P for standard or a backup, I already have all the parts. Still need to refinish my pine body too, that's a whole other thing.

I had a 5 string EBMM Stingray for a week, but ditched it. I'm convinced it was either the strings, the preamp or the rig I was using at the time, but the B string disappeared in the mix completely. Since then I've used my SBMM Ray34CA in B tuning and never ever had that issue. I really liked the feel and look of that bass too, it bummed me out big time. I was able to flip it for the exact price I purchased it within a week though, so no regrets. Carvin gets really good reviews for their fivers in general and the PB5 specifically since it came out, so I'm heavily considering it.
 
Do any of you have experience with short scale basses? I have been having wrist problems and want to switch but I generally tune to D standard (occasionally lower). Could I set one up to work with heavy strings?
I used to have one tuned to drop D while I was considering using that tuning. It worked okay.

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Course we could still do it the old way. It would be the retro-inefficient thing to do.
Meh, I kinda like the "Maxed Out" title.

I play short scale almost exclusively now. I concur with Askrere, it's going to boil down to the string gauge that you use. Better start scoping out some bridge construction sites, you're going to need some cables.
It's certainly doable. A lot of dudes on the "Basses" subforum seem to think that long and extended scale are absolutely required for anything below E, but I don't agree. Hell, Lola Henderson, the bassist Graves at Sea had for a little while, used an EB-3 and sounded good.

Cool piece o' Ampeg from my local CL:

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Very cool. I'd like a B-25 some time.

Why is he listing the condition as "new" though?

My guitarist refuses to play anything but Marshall (I think it is pretty silly too but what are you gonna do guitarists?). He has a JCM 800 which sounds awesome the only problem is it has to be insanely loud to sound good. The volume is fine for gigs but it is too much for practice. Luckily he just bought a JCM 2000, such a more versatile head. It can get so many more tones and sounds good at most volumes.
A friend of mine who has a JCM 800 uses a hot plate with his.

Marshalls are cool, but I think there are a lot of good guitar amps out there. Some of which do the Marshall thing just as well.

I was going to, then he went on a tirade about companies re-releasing old products - specifically Fender.

"They're releasing products that are 60 years old! What does that tell you? It tells you that a product from 60 years ago is better than what they're releasing today!"

He's not really nostalgic for his old products. At all. No old products on display in the building, no talk of classic Peavey amps or instruments, he's just focused on making new products and moving forward.

So I didn't bring up the Vulcan.
I was going to ask about the VB-3, but I guess you played it and it sounded quiet?

That's weird. I'd always wondered what those sounded like absolutely cranked.

I had BEAD basses for years, but I'm sold on the 5 string format now. It's nice to have both the low B and the G string. While i don't use it a whole lot in the doom band, i like having it there.
For me it's mainly that 5-strings just aren't comfortable for me. I prefer just having a separate bass in EADG and another in BEAD.
 
Corey, I'd get a 4 string so I could get the 2+2 headstock. P bass w/ 2+2 headstocks....mmmmmm.

Got my nut fixed, thank Tony Iommi, didnt cost me anything at MGR, cause I spend enough cash there. And now VEGA is definitely ready to record, I know theres a lot of stuff to do before its done but I can't wait to hear what our record will sound like.
 
do any of you guys use an interface or modelling for recording at home? I'm thinking of doing a couple of bass covers for the youtubes (had a few requests) and want something to whack a stereo bass signal into that plugs in via usb that I can put through amplitube alongside a track. not very doom, but hey.
 
I don't normally, because I have a little guitar and bass amp setup in my recording/mixing room, but I use the modeling stuff in Logic sometimes to record ideas late at night, when I can't turn the amps on. I was just using it to get some riff ideas down actually. I'm the person to get advice from though, my home recording setup is beyond what most people are using. A simple firewire interface and Garageband works pretty well, if you take the time to sort it out. Dunno about PC based stuff anymore. There are a lot of free VST plugins floating around out there and Reaper is well regarded, which just leaves an interface. I like Focusrite, personally.
 
I don't normally, because I have a little guitar and bass amp setup in my recording/mixing room, but I use the modeling stuff in Logic sometimes to record ideas late at night, when I can't turn the amps on. I was just using it to get some riff ideas down actually. I'm the person to get advice from though, my home recording setup is beyond what most people are using. A simple firewire interface and Garageband works pretty well, if you take the time to sort it out. Dunno about PC based stuff anymore. There are a lot of free VST plugins floating around out there and Reaper is well regarded, which just leaves an interface. I like Focusrite, personally.

I am a PC fellow unfortunately for me - i essentially just need something to turn the outputs from my pedalboard into a computer friendly signal to run into amplitube's modelling software. that should give me a passable tone for demos until I have my preamp built.

Hey NIFF,how have you been liking your compression pedal, how do you use it? Is it a cs-2 or cs-3? Kinda feel like I need a small bump in sustain for the Dunwich DI.

it's a CS-2 MIJ, found it in Japan when I went over for cheap. I haven't used the others but the simplicity of the controls and the harmonics it coaxes out of the signal are amazing. the sustain knob is mighty powerful as well. the only other one I would consider is the little barbershop one- the accountant I believe it is called. the demos reminded me of the cs-2 a lot.
 
I'm another fan of the CS2. I tried one after seeing Alderete's videos hyping it and I agree that it does coax out some nice harmonic content. The simole as fugg controls are nice, too. Mine's always on. Just don't overpay for one; you'll see yahoos list them in the mid-$100s or more sometimes.
 
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A friend of mine who has a JCM 800 uses a hot plate with his.

Marshalls are cool, but I think there are a lot of good guitar amps out there. Some of which do the Marshall thing just as well.

He has some kind of Hot Plate like device and says he doesn't like. He actually now has two 800s and a 2000 so I asked why he doesn't get another brand and he won't even entertain the idea. I think he just doesn't want to go down the rabbit hole of tone searching. I mean the Marshall does rock guitar but I agree there are probably things that do it just as well.

The thing about the 800 is it is kind of a one trick pony and that trick is awesome but it has no versatility. The 2000 has so much more versatility but you have to work for it because all of the controls seem to work with each other in different ways. The tone shift switch is cool and does a mild scoop. Not crazy drastic like a Triple Rec or anything like that but just clears out a little of the harsh mids. I think it will sound a lot better in a mix and leave some room for the drums and bass.
 
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