Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[Turkeypills]

Amazon.com: JOYO Power Supply 2 JP-02 Isolated Effect Pedal Multi Brick jp02: Musical Instruments

Apparently these aren't actually isolated as it still relies on a wall wart, but what problems would that potentially cause me in my old house or where ever I go?

I have the voodoo labs one, but I need a second one for the other board, and don't feel like spending voodoo prices. I lucked out and got mine for $40 off a guy and never see them at that price.

I ended up getting my Voodoo PP2+ at used price with a PT-2 and softcase, 10 pancake patch cables and a behringer reverb pedal. Ebay.

Good news: offered a killer new job
Bad news: gotta pass a drug screen before i start :| been a pretty steady user for awhile now. kind of nervous. read a lot of stuff online, gonna try to push back the start date as much as i can to give me time to pass. i don't have any issues quitting to pass, i'm just worried i'll fail. first time i've had to take one since graduating from college so i was kind of surprised.

Fake pee bro. Or abstain. Options 1 and 2. I have used synthetic with success and have at least a dozen close friends that have also used it successfully. In my experience they only watch you pee if its a workers comp test, or something for the courts.

 

[Muddslide]

Old news, but re: the Sword. I really dug the first two Age of Winters and Gods of the Earth.

I didn't get off on Warp Riders at all. I should give it another go sometime, but I was disappointed with it.

Yeah, I'm slow on the uptake but should I go ahead and order Apocryphon? Three years in and I haven't even heard it.

But we all know there's too much music to keep up with.

 

[kleinenenten]

Thanks guys, it'll be a long recovery but I'm staying positive about it. ( I'm sure the drugs help lol)

On another note, I have 2 tickets for Ufomammut for May 13th at Reggies in Chicago. Obviously I won't be able to go. If anyone wants to make a deal for them let me know. Ideally, I'll give you the tickets and you hook me up with some merch, couple t-shirts, vinyl or whatever. Hit me up if you're interested and I'll send them to ya.

Me breaking my leg was the BEST thing that could ever have happened to me. That's when I suddenly had tons of free time to take up a hobby - namely, BASS! Put this time to good use!

 

[bassboysam]

Old news, but re: the Sword. I really dug the first two Age of Winters and Gods of the Earth.

I didn't get off on Warp Riders at all. I should give it another go sometime, but I was disappointed with it.

Yeah, I'm slow on the uptake but should I go ahead and order Apocryphon? Three years in and I haven't even heard it.

But we all know there's too much music to keep up with.

I liked Warp Riders better than Gods of the Earth, but Apocryphon is better than both in my opinion.

 

[dcarwin]

Old news, but re: the Sword. I really dug the first two Age of Winters and Gods of the Earth.

I didn't get off on Warp Riders at all. I should give it another go sometime, but I was disappointed with it.

Yeah, I'm slow on the uptake but should I go ahead and order Apocryphon? Three years in and I haven't even heard it.

But we all know there's too much music to keep up with.

Why not sample it a bit and seei f you want to spend on it?

 

[Niff]

ok theory question. when you are trying to compliment a riff do you approach the riff based on the scale it is in or the chord the riff implies? or does it really matter. I've been doing some reading on the relationship between scales, chords and chord progressions and it makes sense to me when the music is chord based. not quite sure what to do when the music is riff based. I know chords are implied but sometimes the riff doesn't make sense from a chord perspective.

when creating more complex basslines (ie not riff -> flourish formula) for stoner/doom i stick fairly strictly within the "flavour notes" within the chords the guitarist is playing and work within those, i find that doodling around the full scale of notes available can mess things up pretty quick.

modded for more gain and low end??? Why on earth would you need that from that pedal?

i know right? i've been running mine tone bypassed blended with the cthulhu recently and there is just no low end loss at all.

 

[Blank_0101]

I had a internet/cable tech do that same thing with a ladder - cursing and swearing the whole time because the previous tech that came out was extremely obese and chose not to climb the ladder and finish the job.

"I see you had another tech out here yesterday, but you're still having your intermittent drop outs?"

"Yeah, he was here - still having the issue"

"Was his name Johnny?"

"Yeah, I think so - big guy?"

"Yeah, that fat **** was supposed to check your flux capacitor on the pole outside, let me guess - he never got the ladder off of his truck."

"Nope"

"****"

It was pretty comical, I don't blame the big guy for not wanting to climb up there, but it seems like a requirement for the job.

I have a non related relative (thank god) who weighs like a million pounds and was a plumber in SC where everyone's house is lifted or a trailer so you have to crawl under the house. I guess he got to big because they had to let him go because he couldn't squeeze in places. He wanted to sue so bad

Powered meat tenderizer

If I ever become an android sexbot in the future that will be my name.

I feel like if you did that though you'd get a call back saying you've either cheated or eat an incredibly unhealthy amount of processed meats.

25 strips for $10.

...so I hear...

That's cheap enough you could have a really gross yet informative party game based on them.

 

[Turkeypills]

I dig Apocryphon a whole bunch. Like a whole bunch.

 

[Muddslide]

when creating more complex basslines (ie not riff -> flourish formula) for stoner/doom i stick fairly strictly within the "flavour notes" within the chords the guitarist is playing and work within those, i find that doodling around the full scale of notes available can mess things up pretty quick.

Sound advice. There is a fine line between getting more complex and becoming so busy you just muddy up the mix. I think this is especially true in heavier, often detuned music. But you can still make it interesting for sure.

Bear in mind, this is coming from someone who hasn't played with anyone but himself for several years (*awaits onslaught of jokes*) although I do multitrack record stuff with other instruments.

 

[Corey Y]

Sound advice. There is a fine line between getting more complex and becoming so busy you just muddy up the mix. I think this is especially true in heavier, often detuned music. But you can still make it interesting for sure.

Bear in mind, this is coming from someone who hasn't played with anyone but himself for several years (*awaits onslaught of jokes*) although I do multitrack record stuff with other instruments.

I feel like when I write/record by myself that I either play one riff in unison or switch off riffing on one instrument and holding out one chord/note on the other. Not always, sometimes I write things that I'm really into and everything feels right, but most of the time I feel like I'm a more interesting player in a band than when I'm writing solo. More chemistry when you don't know what the other person is going to do all the time, I guess.

 

[Muddslide]

I feel like when I write/record by myself that I either play one riff in unison or switch off riffing on one instrument and holding out one chord/note on the other. Not always, sometimes I write things that I'm really into and everything feels right, but most of the time I feel like I'm a more interesting player in a band than when I'm writing solo. More chemistry when you don't know what the other person is going to do all the time, I guess.

Oh, I agree. Honestly, I use a drum machine and I usually start there, run it through a pedal sometimes, get that track down, but I "write" on the bass for the most part. I have various keyboards that I try to process enough that they don't sound keyboard-ish (I used to have a nice collection of vintage analog synths, but that was long ago...) and then a track or two of bass.

Often I will only use guitar or keys on top of the drum/bass tracks as texture more than actual playing...like just hellish shrieking feedback, but sometimes I try to come up with riffs that compliment the bass but add some dissonance. Teetering on the brink between noise, groove and some semblance of recognizable music.

I like recording stuff, but I seriously miss jamming with people who play well and have similar taste, or at least come together to make interesting sounds together.

 

[Pelham Bleu]

when creating more complex basslines (ie not riff -> flourish formula) for stoner/doom i stick fairly strictly within the "flavour notes" within the chords the guitarist is playing and work within those, i find that doodling around the full scale of notes available can mess things up pretty quick.



i know right? i've been running mine tone bypassed blended with the cthulhu recently and there is just no low end loss at all.

I usually find myself wanting to have a really complex or flashy riff then hearing it in the mix and thinking "I need to get back to basics to serve the song." This same principle goes for effects, too.

 

[Corey Y]

Oh, I agree. Honestly, I use a drum machine and I usually start there, run it through a pedal sometimes, get that track down, but I "write" on the bass for the most part. I have various keyboards that I try to process enough that they don't sound keyboard-ish (I used to have a nice collection of vintage analog synths, but that was long ago...) and then a track or two of bass.

Often I will only use guitar or keys on top of the drum/bass tracks as texture more than actual playing...like just hellish shrieking feedback, but sometimes I try to come up with riffs that compliment the bass but add some dissonance. Teetering on the brink between noise, groove and some semblance of recognizable music.

I like recording stuff, but I seriously miss jamming with people who play well and have similar taste, or at least come together to make interesting sounds together.

I also miss jamming with people, it's been probably around 8 months for me and years since it was a steady thing. I've been told by a lot of people that I'm good at writing riffs when I'm doing solo stuff and good at playing creative bassline when I've been in bands. I have a harder time getting a more layered, interactive sound with songs by myself. It's all relative though, I'm sure there's stuff I've recorded that other people would say is very layered, it might depend on the point of view and what you're comparing against. Most of my solo stuff tends toward that Weedeater style of writing, one big heavy riff and maybe some breaks where the guitar holds out and the bass plays.

I usually find myself wanting to have a really complex or flashy riff then hearing it in the mix and thinking "I need to get back to basics to serve the song." This same principle goes for effects, too.

I've gone back and forth. Some contexts I'm trying to play more, frequently in bands I end up pruning stuff back a lot. When I was younger, playing bass in punk bands and starting to get bored I would REALLY overplay.

 

[Blank_0101]

Aaand the girl guitarist got a job in Portland and moves in two weeks...

Hopefully girl drummer can find another girltarist...

 

[Muddslide]

I usually find myself wanting to have a really complex or flashy riff then hearing it in the mix and thinking "I need to get back to basics to serve the song." This same principle goes for effects, too.

To me, while I get enjoyment out of complexity (or trying to play complex lines at least) I think sometimes doing less can add more to the song. Like playing something simple but unexpected--that doesn't really "fit" with what the guitar, etc. is doing, just creating a little dissonance and disharmony...I am not well versed in theory, but essentially what I mean is doing the "wrong" thing...intentionally sounding "off." Sometimes this just sickly fills sonic space and even makes individual instruments sound more defined. It can also give people's ears a workout.

They are expecting you to go right, you go left--in the opposite direction of the guitar.

Aside from melody/harmony, I try to do this same thing rhythmically at times. Counterpoint the mess out that bitch, ya know.

 

[Muddslide]

Aaand the girl guitarist got a job in Portland and moves in two weeks...

Hopefully girl drummer can find another girltarist...

Dammit!

Do we at least get pics?

 

[Muddslide]

Most of my solo stuff tends toward that Weedeater style of writing, one big heavy riff and maybe some breaks where the guitar holds out and the bass plays.

Hell, t'ain't nothing wrong with that!

I wonder if this is part of the reason I've always preferred working in a three piece. More space seems like more freedom somehow...but I've also jammed with big groups and enjoyed that too.

 

[Blank_0101]

Dammit!

Do we at least get pics?

Nah respect that girl too much. She's the first serious friend I met when I moved to DFW. She got the exact salary she asked for and gets to move to a city she loves so I can't hold it against her.

 

[Muddslide]

Nah respect that girl too much. She's the first serious friend I met when I moved to DFW. She got the exact salary she asked for and gets to move to a city she loves so I can't hold it against her.

Well, I didn't mean they had to be cheesecake pics.

I was living in Portland from 2009-2013. It is a great town in many respects. Good luck to her. And to you in finding a new chicktarist.

 

[Blank_0101]

Well, I didn't mean they had to be cheesecake pics.

I was living in Portland from 2009-2013. It is a great town in many respects. Good luck to her. And to you in finding a new chicktarist.

No worries it's cool man! I hope the drummer hangs around. She's kinda absent minded and odd but she can play so it's not a learning curve. I Want to ask her but idk if she knows our friend is moving and I don't want to break that news to her lol.

My dad loves portland he used to do a lot of business up in the Pacific Northwest. All I know about it is portlandia skits and that its grey looking. I can't do overcast.