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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Sometimes the ground wire snaps off, either being brittle or too thin or from excess movement, like if your jack is loose or janky in general. Something to check.

I can't even count how many times that's happened to me, especially after pulling the guts out numerous times to wire or whatnot.

If the continuity is good across everything that is grounded, I don't know where else to check.see if there's continuity between all grounds and the shielding if you haven't tried that either.
 

I kind of wish there was youtoob channel or something of just cheap af pedal reviews. I'm pretty down with dropping some major coin on boutique distortion stuff, especially if a pedal can make my fretless sound like it belongs a death metal band... but sometimes having something cheap to mess with while figuring out signal path and things can be super helpful before grabbing higher end pedal.

That said, from what I've heard of the hulk, I kind of want one even tho I don't have a good use for one.

There was a website of a dude with nothing but fuzz pedal reviews. All of them had sound clips, some had A/V.
Sadly, not much of that holds up like I hoped. Computers are the best thing to happen to dice, ever. My brother still does roleplay gaming with dice, etc. After my first RPG on a computer, I pretty much decided I'd never roll a dice again. But, doing it on a computer does limit the human interaction element, which I appreciate, but don't entirely crave.

<looks around nervously> Soooo, basses...
What game are you playing? I’ve been looking for something nerdy to keep me busy on my iPhone. Prefer not doing P2W. Besides, that’s less money for gear.
 
What game are you playing? I’ve been looking for something nerdy to keep me busy on my iPhone. Prefer not doing P2W. Besides, that’s less money for gear.


Oh, that was ages ago. I know one of the titles was The Secret of the Silver Blades by SSI, if that tells you how long ago that was. If you want to see what I was dealing with, it's playable for free over at archive.org: Secret of the Silver Blades : Strategic Simulations, Inc. : Free Borrow & Streaming : Internet Archive

You can get the answers to the questions at the start of the game (and some of the story) from the manual here: Invalid Link Removed

I got the Vintage T-bird Pro in on Friday. I love it so far, the narrow fret board is great, and the finish is near perfect (one of the labels fell out of the witch hat knobs in the bag, I'll just glue it back in). The pickups are dark enough that I may leave the round wounds on it for the time being.

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The black looks slick! In my experience tbird pups are thick and dark, but sit really well in the mix.

Hehe, I agree. I hate to admit that I'm that petty about finishes, but the fact that Epi generally only offered them in sunburst and white until pretty recently kept me from really considering them for a performance bass. But then again, I was happy to play a copper burst Danelectro Longhorn live for some time, so maybe I just hate brown sunburst and white without the chrome covers to accent them? I dunno, I'm pretty sure my subconscious is driving half the time, and I'm just imagining that conscious me is making the decisions.

I love this bass' bridge, though. Every Gibson styled bass should have one. I know from owning several basses with the 3-point bridge and owning this one for just a few days that I far prefer the two piece claw and tune-o-matic setup. That 3-point bridge is like old Fords with the 3 on the tree shifter. It was kind of quaint and nice, but it wasn't very practical or fast. The claw and tune-o-matic is more practical and playable, by far. Gibson is dumb for installing the 3-point bridge on any bass below $400: there, I said it. The adjustable 3-pointer is better than the old fixed ones, but not by enough.

I haven't played it with the band or tried recording with it yet, but some fooling around with it in my living room through both an amp and the direct setup I use, I can totally believe that it sits well in the mix. It has top end, but not too crisp, while full everywhere else. As I said, those pickups really take the bite out of round wounds in a good way, IMHO.


Totally, my favourite example of it is this concert by Jethro Tull:




Yeah, that's a great example of what I was thinking in the way of tone. Even if I'm showing my power-pop sensibilities a bit to brazenly, the sound I associate with the T-bird is the sound Tom Petersson got on the first Cheap Trick record. From what I understand, that's all T-bird. Even the chords shine.
 
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one of those bands that i just don't get the appeal but they've done a great job growing their fanbase. played with them once and they were nice dudes and had some cool pedals to nerd over.
They are accessible form of the genre. The songs aren't abusively long (mostly), the structure is thought out, some of the riffs are catchy. Rust wasn't my favorite release of that year, but its still on my playlist.
They aren't breaking a lot of new ground, but within genres that is fairly common these days. I tend to see the bands I like as the versions of something I like the best. The internet and digital recording means that you can probably find 12 bands that sound almost exactly alike. It is up to the listener to pick and chose which variation they like the most.
 
yeah agree. a lot of stuff just seems to be a copy of a copy. usually i just stick with the original.

I found Sleep, realized they were copying Black Sabbath in their own way; realized Sabbath was interpreting old Delta Blues artists, so I settled on listening to only Huddie Ledbetter and Robert Johnson.

I’m just messing around Sam. No disrespect. That’s just where my mind went when you mentioned original artists.

It is kind of funny to think that those guys were kind of the doom of their time. 32/20 Blues, Where Did You Sleep Last Night, et al, kind of set that tone for many different interpretations that were to follow.

Obviously it’s not without other music and non-musical influences and even inferences of other things in the personal interpretation, but the basis for those old blues and gospel artists that were playing before recording was ever available to them was definitely hardship, trouble, doom, etc...

Alright. I’ll step off my philosophical soapbox. Lol
 
I found Sleep, realized they were copying Black Sabbath in their own way; realized Sabbath was interpreting old Delta Blues artists, so I settled on listening to only Huddie Ledbetter and Robert Johnson.
Honestly I'm with bassboysam on this. Too many bands' proposal is just lazy adherence to genre clichés. Which doesn't mean at all that everyone who was "influenced" by someone else is unoriginal, as you seem to imply...
 
I’m not at all implying that necessarily. There are internal and external factors for every person to interpret, thus influence how they perceive the music. I’m just saying it can all be traced back to a few select sources depending on how far you want to go back.

The factors that determine any of it are the person, their life experiences, and the technology available to be used as expressive tools. It’s all relative, but those things, and perhaps a few others, are the main differentiation between generations of music or anything really. Just advancements of arts in general.

Originality could be just using or developing the tools available or repurposing tools to fit or obtain a desired result.
 
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oh for sure you can keep going back but i think the difference between say Master of Reality and Ledbetter is much greater than Sabbath and Sleep or Electric Wizard and Monolord.

the E Wizz style of doom doesn't leave a lot of room for originality so i find all the bands that branch off from them just don't have much interest for me and it seems to be the most popular or abundant style.
 
Very true on both points. I do see the similarity more in the lyrical or stylistic concepts than music instrumentation, but I would venture a guess that those old blues guys probably threw down pretty heavy in their day.

I’ve saw 100s of bands in and out of the genre. The one thing that they all have in common is interpretation. And you are very much correct; originality is not a quality they all possessed. Even with a level playing field regarding equipment, recording ability, technology in general.

I think we are all in the same book of thought with these bands and music; we’re just a page or two off from each other.
 
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