If it works, it works. I don’t love class D (though mine is nice enough and all) and have never used tubes besides in a store, but I definitely love my solid state GK rigs.
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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
- Thread starter Korladis
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Nah, he's not throwing a fit because Billy Eilish doesn't know who Eddie Van Halen is.
Never played a berg amp.
Neither have I cared for the clips I've heard, but his bass sounds real good in those jams.
Idk, I've always wondered if tone is so much the mix of everything as it is just individual pieces.
I mean, I can't jive with the sound of most nordstrand, Aguilar, bergantino, swr, Warwick, many "classic" booteek builds, and even trace Elliot gear. There's exceptions for sure (tone hammer was sweet). But a lot of the time in either clips or stores I was unimpressed. Most of the time they sound harmonically rich, but super nasal, burpy and thin.
I like burpy for some things, but meh. Maybe it's always been the lack of good heft, not just woomph lows. Everyone's got their own thing, but I've wondered if it's just the lack of trial time I've given to those brands.
I know, right? It's okay, I'm headed back to my test mule to finish prototyping the electronics.
Hopefully I can build a few solid body prototypes and let people play em and give feedback.
Neither have I cared for the clips I've heard, but his bass sounds real good in those jams.
Idk, I've always wondered if tone is so much the mix of everything as it is just individual pieces.
I mean, I can't jive with the sound of most nordstrand, Aguilar, bergantino, swr, Warwick, many "classic" booteek builds, and even trace Elliot gear. There's exceptions for sure (tone hammer was sweet). But a lot of the time in either clips or stores I was unimpressed. Most of the time they sound harmonically rich, but super nasal, burpy and thin.
I like burpy for some things, but meh. Maybe it's always been the lack of good heft, not just woomph lows. Everyone's got their own thing, but I've wondered if it's just the lack of trial time I've given to those brands.
And you'd already gotten so far....
I know, right? It's okay, I'm headed back to my test mule to finish prototyping the electronics.
Hopefully I can build a few solid body prototypes and let people play em and give feedback.
Our guitarist and I are in the "if it sounds good it is good" category. He has a 100w JCM800, a Peavey Butcher, Peavey Mark III standard and an old Randall 150w SS. I think the Mark III sounds the best and it was by far the cheapest [like $150]. The JCM is probably the 'worst' of the group as well as the most expensive. The Butcher is rad. A thicker meatier jcm though it needs tubes.
I'm more of a SS guy. The tubes are cool but a good amp is a good amp. I love the GK because ot was designed to sound good clean and when it is pushed. I can get more power and clarity from SS and don't have to worry about cooking tubes.
In that vein, I am actually kinda interested in the quilter heads. My GK can act up sometimes and probably for the price of an overhaul I could by a used bassblock.The designer's youtube vids are really cool and he understands a lot about how to make a great amp that sounds fantastic clean or pushed.
If I ever get one do I need to turn in my doom card? Lol
I'm more of a SS guy. The tubes are cool but a good amp is a good amp. I love the GK because ot was designed to sound good clean and when it is pushed. I can get more power and clarity from SS and don't have to worry about cooking tubes.
In that vein, I am actually kinda interested in the quilter heads. My GK can act up sometimes and probably for the price of an overhaul I could by a used bassblock.The designer's youtube vids are really cool and he understands a lot about how to make a great amp that sounds fantastic clean or pushed.
If I ever get one do I need to turn in my doom card? Lol
Nah I'm in the same group. If you like the sound of a first act, I wouldn't spend a penny more. In fact, if I ever find a crate td50 for a decent price I'll grab it. I loved the tone, but it was stolen and man did I find it cheap... Was my only amp back in the pink days. Quiilters sound great, I probably should invest in a back up amp.
Nothing in my opinion. Our guitarist used one for his backup for a long time. Fit in his V-4 heads case. I've had many compact back-ups but this one is my favorite... for what its worth.
Nothing wrong with Quilter at all! I was just joking about a certain segment of the doom crowd that think tubez or old SS sunn/peavey/acoustic is the only way to fly.
If I ever con my way into a band and don't get kicked out once they realize how much I suck, I'm not going to schlep some heavy gear just for the look of it.
The thing that's funny to me is having seen some shows where people have a stack of old Sunn stuff or nice tube gear, and it sounds like garbage because they don't know how to dial anything in. This isn't unique to doom or vintage gear - I see and hear it with other genres and other setups. It's just funny how certain types/brands of gear become ubiquitous with a style, but it can't save the player if they don't know how to use it properly.
I'm hoping my prog/stoner project gets off the ground once we can be back in the practice space and start looking for a solid drummer. In the meantime, I've been getting rid of lots of unused pedals and gear to create two setups. I use the same cabs for everything, but I've got a class D mesa head and Nano+ board that covers what I need and is a breeze to transport. I also have a V4B and Novo18 for the bigger setup. It's a luxury to have this modular setup, but it's real nice to be able to mix and match everything.
I used a Bass Block 800 as my backup/lazy day head in my doom project for 2 years. It's the best class D imo. I only recently sold it to pay some bills and know I will regret it.
Class D are convenient to schlep but also very convenient to ship
Maybe next time around I'll try the Terror Bass. But the Quilter had a natural compression when being fed dirt pedals and TONS of clean slam.
Class D are convenient to schlep but also very convenient to ship
Maybe next time around I'll try the Terror Bass. But the Quilter had a natural compression when being fed dirt pedals and TONS of clean slam.
In my mind, a bass only sounds good when it's making the band sound good.
But that's just me.
More fun with TB...
Dude starts a thread looking for fretless players to listen to. Says "I know most of the big name fretless guys like Jaco, Pino, Steve Bailey, and stuff. I’m more so interested in bands such as Intronaut that use them along with modern dirty guitars and stuff." What does TB reply with? Pino, Christian McBride, some R&B guys, Alphonso Johnson, Gary Willis, Marcus Miller, Bakithi Kumalo. Nothing against those guys, but it just goes to show how useless most recommendation threads are.
Dude starts a thread looking for fretless players to listen to. Says "I know most of the big name fretless guys like Jaco, Pino, Steve Bailey, and stuff. I’m more so interested in bands such as Intronaut that use them along with modern dirty guitars and stuff." What does TB reply with? Pino, Christian McBride, some R&B guys, Alphonso Johnson, Gary Willis, Marcus Miller, Bakithi Kumalo. Nothing against those guys, but it just goes to show how useless most recommendation threads are.
Clean slam is what I want. I have my fuzz when I want it nasty.I used a Bass Block 800 as my backup/lazy day head in my doom project for 2 years. It's the best class D imo. I only recently sold it to pay some bills and know I will regret it.
Class D are convenient to schlep but also very convenient to ship
Maybe next time around I'll try the Terror Bass. But the Quilter had a natural compression when being fed dirt pedals and TONS of clean slam.
Steve DiGiorgio. Endthread
Love that guy. Saw him with Testament a few years ago and he had a “Thor” bass or something. Only 3 strings. But he nailed the set.
Fretless in heavy genres is kind of a rare thing but I'm not suprised the massive list of the more well known fretless players comes out first. DiGiorgio is a favorite, I saw him in testament and it was slamming.
Fretless and flats as well. Not sure if DiGiorgio uses flats, but isn’t the typical recommendation for fretless basses to use flats? Regardless, flats and fretless certainly are not common in the heavy genres. I’m the only bass player I’ve ever met who uses flats, aside from my friend who decided to risk his GC gift card on flats to cop Steve Harris tones. I have this friend to thank for my love of Maiden in general, thankfully, and for my love of flats.
I can’t do rounds any more. Recently bought a “new” bass, and love how it sounds with rounds, but besides totally clean or slap, everything sounds better with flats to me. And considering I’m never totally clean or have to slap, flats will likely win out.
