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Thunderbird Club

Ain't it the truth
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48:48 ... Mike Lulls personal '63?... (warning - later "slip-bass content")... but.., their final thoughts about high dollar set-ups is set-on.




His details on that are incorrect, the pickups came from a black '64 IV, which I personally saw in the shop, it was not Mike's personal bass. The bass belonged to someone Mike would not name, it was carefully, entirely de-constructed, the pickups were the patterns his reproduction. The cans were done by the same manufacturer that Gibson used, original production of the pickups was offered to Jason Lollar, at the time he declined, saying there wasn't enough market for them. So Mike went to TV Jones first, and for awhile he was the sole provider, but they took off and he was unable to keep up with demand. I recall talking to Mike about it and he said at one point they had a backlog of T4s ready to ship that were just waiting for pickups from TV Jones, it was then that a partial shift to Seymour Duncan began. The original spec on the pickups was 8K for the neck and 9K for the bridge because that's what the '64s were, Mike said it was a very good sounding bass, he had owned many Thunderbirds and knew a lot about them and was quite passionate about recreating them his way
I feel very fortunate to have met Mike, he was just the nicest, most genuine man, visiting with him was always fun and he did the best set ups on my Birds - as some of you that have played mine know. I still miss him a lot, but his sons carry the business forward and they are both are just as committed to making great instruments and they are much like Mike, very kind and genuine.

First production T4 after one Mike built for the donner of the '64 and a NAMM prototype.

The day I picked it up :)
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His details on that are incorrect, the pickups came from a black '64 IV, which I personally saw in the shop, it was not Mike's personal bass. The bass belonged to someone Mike would not name, it was carefully, entirely de-constructed, the pickups were the patterns his reproduction. The cans were done by the same manufacturer that Gibson used, original production of the pickups was offered to Jason Lollar, at the time he declined, saying there wasn't enough market for them. So Mike went to TV Jones first, and for awhile he was the sole provider, but they took off and he was unable to keep up with demand. I recall talking to Mike about it and he said at one point they had a backlog of T4s ready to ship that were just waiting for pickups from TV Jones, it was then that a partial shift to Seymour Duncan began. The original spec on the pickups was 8K for the neck and 9K for the bridge because that's what the '64s were, Mike said it was a very good sounding bass, he had owned many Thunderbirds and knew a lot about them and was quite passionate about recreating them his way
I feel very fortunate to have met Mike, he was just the nicest, most genuine man, visiting with him was always fun and he did the best set ups on my Birds - as some of you that have played mine know. I still miss him a lot, but his sons carry the business forward and they are both are just as committed to making great instruments and they are much like Mike, very kind and genuine.

First production T4 after one Mike built for the donner of the '64 and a NAMM prototype.

The day I picked it up :)
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no bridge cover!!!:bassist::hyper:
 
His details on that are incorrect, the pickups came from a black '64 IV, which I personally saw in the shop, it was not Mike's personal bass. The bass belonged to someone Mike would not name, it was carefully, entirely de-constructed, the pickups were the patterns his reproduction. The cans were done by the same manufacturer that Gibson used, original production of the pickups was offered to Jason Lollar, at the time he declined, saying there wasn't enough market for them. So Mike went to TV Jones first, and for awhile he was the sole provider, but they took off and he was unable to keep up with demand. I recall talking to Mike about it and he said at one point they had a backlog of T4s ready to ship that were just waiting for pickups from TV Jones, it was then that a partial shift to Seymour Duncan began. The original spec on the pickups was 8K for the neck and 9K for the bridge because that's what the '64s were, Mike said it was a very good sounding bass, he had owned many Thunderbirds and knew a lot about them and was quite passionate about recreating them his way
I feel very fortunate to have met Mike, he was just the nicest, most genuine man, visiting with him was always fun and he did the best set ups on my Birds - as some of you that have played mine know. I still miss him a lot, but his sons carry the business forward and they are both are just as committed to making great instruments and they are much like Mike, very kind and genuine.

First production T4 after one Mike built for the donner of the '64 and a NAMM prototype.

The day I picked it up :)
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The current SD reproductions are 7.98 and 9.75 ohms. Are your SDs the same?
 
I bought this ancient amp at a thrift store for 10 Euros.
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Which considering the good condition it's in, the only fault is the fact that the handle isn't there and seeing as how on Reverb, these go for 125-200 range, is a STEAL.

So what IS this? Well, it's a made in Japan National GA-99TR, 25 watt Solid state chassis with Reverb and Tremolo, which both work. The speaker is a 6 incher, which considering the size of the cab is comically small. Speaking of which, that said cab is made from hardboard which makes it VERY light, it weighs next to nothing.

Sure, it won't do overdriven sounds, believe me, I tried, but it still is heaps of fun as it is.
 
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The current SD reproductions are 7.98 and 9.75 ohms. Are your SDs the same?

I haven't measured mine, but they're just about set in the Orville, it's never sounded so good.
 
goodbye Strombergs….
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hello Webers…..
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throw these in there while at it….:hyper::hyper:
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Should purr like a tiger!

For those who like white basses:
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That’s just beautiful!

Beautiful! Electrics? And didn't you suggest earlier that you might build me an Explorer bass after poo-pooing the Explorer Bird listing on Reverb? Or was that another poster?
The electrics are all passive. Three dual stack pots, each pickup has a dedicated vol/tone control stack with different cap values. It’s super flexible.
As for the explorer, I don’t think that was me. I rarely poo-poo another man’s or woman’s choice of bass. I’d actually love to find a nicely priced Alembic Exploiter or Warwick Stryker type bass for my Entwistle collection.

I’m going to say it: A thunderbird has a relatively niche tone compared to a J or a P. However, a thunderbird with a good preamp installed is invincible!
Spot on!
I’ve found the Tbird to be very limited to the musical niche. It really isn’t much good as a lever or row boat paddle let alone a fly swatter. But by golly it sure seems to fit every genre of music I’ve played it in. Polka to Prog Rock, you name it.

If you can’t make a Tbird sound good in a mix then you should look closer at your amp settings or playing skills. Are there better choices for certain songs, maybe, but a Tbird with the right strings and amp settings will perform admirably in pretty much any setting.

That bass sounds as good as it looks!!
Thx Andy. I’m still enjoying it.

Now there’s some chops I could even do!
 
I bought this ancient amp at a thrift store for 10 Euros.
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Which considering the good condition it's in, the only fault is the fact that the handle isn't there and seeing as how on Reverb, these go for 125-200 range, is a STEAL.

So what IS this? Well, it's a made in Japan National GA-99TR, 25 watt Solid state chassis with Reverb and Tremolo, which both work. The speaker is a 6 incher, which considering the size of the cab is comically small. Speaking of which, that said cab is made from hardboard which makes it VERY light, it weighs next to nothing.

Sure, it won't do overdriven sounds, believe me, I tried, but it still is heaps of fun as it is.

That is odd to put such a small speaker in that cab. I guess you could cut an opening and install a bigger speaker like a 12.
 
His details on that are incorrect, the pickups came from a black '64 IV, which I personally saw in the shop, it was not Mike's personal bass. The bass belonged to someone Mike would not name, it was carefully, entirely de-constructed, the pickups were the patterns his reproduction. The cans were done by the same manufacturer that Gibson used, original production of the pickups was offered to Jason Lollar, at the time he declined, saying there wasn't enough market for them. So Mike went to TV Jones first, and for awhile he was the sole provider, but they took off and he was unable to keep up with demand. I recall talking to Mike about it and he said at one point they had a backlog of T4s ready to ship that were just waiting for pickups from TV Jones, it was then that a partial shift to Seymour Duncan began. The original spec on the pickups was 8K for the neck and 9K for the bridge because that's what the '64s were, Mike said it was a very good sounding bass, he had owned many Thunderbirds and knew a lot about them and was quite passionate about recreating them his way
I feel very fortunate to have met Mike, he was just the nicest, most genuine man, visiting with him was always fun and he did the best set ups on my Birds - as some of you that have played mine know. I still miss him a lot, but his sons carry the business forward and they are both are just as committed to making great instruments and they are much like Mike, very kind and genuine.

First production T4 after one Mike built for the donner of the '64 and a NAMM prototype.

The day I picked it up :)
POiJPge.jpg
:drool:
 
Should purr like a tiger!


That’s just beautiful!


The electrics are all passive. Three dual stack pots, each pickup has a dedicated vol/tone control stack with different cap values. It’s super flexible.
As for the explorer, I don’t think that was me. I rarely poo-poo another man’s or woman’s choice of bass. I’d actually love to find a nicely priced Alembic Exploiter or Warwick Stryker type bass for my Entwistle collection.


Spot on!
I’ve found the Tbird to be very limited to the musical niche. It really isn’t much good as a lever or row boat paddle let alone a fly swatter. But by golly it sure seems to fit every genre of music I’ve played it in. Polka to Prog Rock, you name it.

If you can’t make a Tbird sound good in a mix then you should look closer at your amp settings or playing skills. Are there better choices for certain songs, maybe, but a Tbird with the right strings and amp settings will perform admirably in pretty much any setting.


Thx Andy. I’m still enjoying it.


Now there’s some chops I could even do!
What are your favourite strings for your Thunderbird?
 
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Just recalled this version of "The Man Who Sold the World" performed by Bowie on the Outside tour back in 1996. Utterly blows me away, with its haunting presentation graced with Gail Ann Dorsey's jazz-tinged accents.

Honestly the only version I ever liked, well loved-



Wow - that's an awesome arrangement of that classic!
 
I bought this ancient amp at a thrift store for 10 Euros.
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Which considering the good condition it's in, the only fault is the fact that the handle isn't there and seeing as how on Reverb, these go for 125-200 range, is a STEAL.

So what IS this? Well, it's a made in Japan National GA-99TR, 25 watt Solid state chassis with Reverb and Tremolo, which both work. The speaker is a 6 incher, which considering the size of the cab is comically small. Speaking of which, that said cab is made from hardboard which makes it VERY light, it weighs next to nothing.

Sure, it won't do overdriven sounds, believe me, I tried, but it still is heaps of fun as it is.

A roomie had a very similar Lafayette. Fun little amp. I added a speaker out option for him. Going into a bigger speaker made it sound even better.