• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Thunderbird Club

:) Thank you! That's so nice of you to say that! Frankly if Tom knew I've been disseminating these past 'rough drafts' he'd kill me! (he's so the perfectionist!) Every time I see him I tell him how much I love Strumpet. The other cats wouldn't care - Mason (other guitarist) is a heavy 'noise' guy (attends Noise music festivals in Japan) and Frank the drummer (played with Sleepytime Gorilla Museum briefly) is a sweet guy but incredibly difficult to work with.
Never see them anymore, but I will be part of a jam session with Tom in a little over an hour! :bassist: :hyper:

I like noise to a logical extreme. Used tastefully.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GonePlaid
I’m in love with the tone and the riffs.

Robin Finck

Guitarist for Nine Inch Nails and for awhile Gun N Roses. He was LEAD. Contributed a lot to Chinese Democracy. Not that it was amazing but to stand in for Slash? Faaaawk

Very cool musician youth stories. A backing sound track of him playing a few riffs while telling stories about strings and music. Really passionate and genuine. I remember all those silly ideas of youth...

WORTH THE TIME!



From 9:50 till the end is one of my all time favourite riffs and tones
 
Last edited:
Ok, where's Gplaid?
I was out and about, away from the computer(no smartphone); trying to catch up at 0100-ish. Prolly gonna miss a few. OK. The EB Cobalt flats on my 2 'Birds can give pretty much any sound I want to put out there. I don't mess with EQ much once we start the gig-and after I've EQ'ed to the room. We do mostly 'classic rock'(define that), so it's mostly where I pluck, either between the 'handrest' and the bridge cover or near the fretboard. The D'Addario Tapes I recently put on my Ibanez semi-hollow would likely make that bass ideal for reggae. BTW, wuttinahell is "dub"? I have used tapes on the 67 Bird but they tended to be a little too mellow.
 
I was out and about, away from the computer(no smartphone); trying to catch up at 0100-ish. Prolly gonna miss a few. OK. The EB Cobalt flats on my 2 'Birds can give pretty much any sound I want to put out there....
... BTW, wuttinahell is "dub"? I have used tapes on the 67 Bird but they tended to be a little too mellow.
Plaid - I know you're well beyond bass lesson territory but it just happened to be the first YouTube clip that popped up on a dub bass search. This is the sound I'd typically call dub especially as it relates to Reggae...

its a pretty basic instructional video but fairly good at explaining things and demonstrating the dub sound.

Could I pull that off on a Thunderbird with flats, yes, or tapes even easier. Just roll the tone knob way down, mute a bit and play up near the neck. In my experience, Cobalt flats are a fantastic sounding string on a TBird (possibly my favorite string on the Eppi VP Bird) but also brighter than most flats or tapes. So if playing Reggae on my bird I'd lean to a darker flat like Rotos or a black la Bella tape vs the Cobalt flats. That said, I'm sure with proper EQ and technique even Cobalt flats will do just fine, they just wouldn't be my personal first string choice for Reggae.
 
I like noise to a logical extreme. Used tastefully.

I like the word 'effectively' (Used effectively...) Noise for noise sake as an accent or touchstone maybe, but you can have too much of anything after a while. :)
 
Plaid - I know you're well beyond bass lesson territory but it just happened to be the first YouTube clip that popped up on a dub bass search. This is the sound I'd typically call dub especially as it relates to Reggae...

its a pretty basic instructional video but fairly good at explaining things and demonstrating the dub sound.

Could I pull that off on a Thunderbird with flats, yes, or tapes even easier. Just roll the tone knob way down, mute a bit and play up near the neck. In my experience, Cobalt flats are a fantastic sounding string on a TBird (possibly my favorite string on the Eppi VP Bird) but also brighter than most flats or tapes. So if playing Reggae on my bird I'd lean to a darker flat like Rotos or a black la Bella tape vs the Cobalt flats. That said, I'm sure with proper EQ and technique even Cobalt flats will do just fine, they just wouldn't be my personal first string choice for Reggae.

Some interesting hints. Because our group goes from "Girl From Ipanema" to 60s rock in one set, and due to lack of space in the band 'area'(no stage or even bandstand), I can't take multiple basses on a gig-nor do the guitarists take multiple axes. I do carry a backup but it stays in its case unless needed. So my original answer was based on not being able to practically switch basses for different musical styles. We aren't doing a show or concert, we're playing for dining and dancing. We don't even use a 'set in stone' set list, but feel the crowd and field requests. Still don't get why the term "dub". To an old fart like me, dub means adding something into a recording like horns or strings, etc.
 
Side question if any one has any info that'd be awesome. If not it's all good too.

I've got a chance to either pick up a peavey TKO 65, mid 80's model. Or The Tko 115s sheffield 90's model. I'm familiar & have played the 115 s countless times with my band & it's nice & defined even for a 15" speaker. Also read its the series that replaced the 65 afterwards.

I guess i might be answering my own question of which i should get...Familiar territory rather than something just for the sake of it.

If only i'd have space in my room for both xD I think the 115 will be beneficial. The headphone input is a nice feature & since it's loud enough for a gig, it's easier to load in cars during shows.

Same here - being a three piece where I'm bass/lead vocals, with a versatile guitarist & grooving punk drummer, the TKO 115 carried it's own & shaped my tone pretty great. Clarity through a 15" is pretty rare. Hence why i'm probably gonna go with familiarity rather than new territory that might not work as well.

So i'm biting the bullet tomorrow - gonna pick up the tko 115 s. See if i can drastically talk the price down since they've had it for a years time. Also debating if down the line i semi convert it to isolate both the amp & speaker, or find a way to implement a on/off switch where it would engage or disengage the amplifier section from the speaker enabling me to use the speaker for a separate head connection.

Til then, familiar box with a nice sound is gonna be mine xD

So it's been sometime since i spoke about this TKO nonsense xD Went down to the pawnshop last night & first thing i saw was a 2x12 cabinet for 200$. The peavey TKO 115 was still there as hoped, & i played it. Sounds as i remember, solid & packs a punch. Though the Gain, low, high & Volume knobs were scratchy the rest of the controls were in working order. The inputs are kinda finicky too - all in all, major need of a clean. The grill was coming off, perhaps due to not being set in properly - but overall clean condition. They were asking 350$, but have had it for a year over. Sales guy knew the amp needed some cleaning so he'd look at the price to knock it down. Offered 150$, & he asked 160$ which is nail on the wall. The 2x12 cab though went for 100$ lowest.

After some talk of return policies, i walked with the 2x12 cabinet for 100$ & i've got 30 days for a return/exchange in store. It's unbranded & when i got home, plugged it in sounds good. Took it apart to confirm my theory: It's a DIY someone made. There's a lot of screws holding the back panel on, The speakers themselves have no markings on them in terms of brand so they could just be overseas inexpensive speakers. After i run my effects board through it, that'll be the deciding factor of if i keep, or if i trade for the TKO.

Keeping it, i gotta modify a few things the previous builder messed up. It's 29" wide, 18" high, 12" deep.

& now, back to our regular program :P
 
An old friend of mine who has been playing roots/reggae for decades was at that gig the other night. His band has done shows with the Wailers. He told me Family Man likes to run multiple cabs with 10s - sometimes 2 x 810s + a 410!
An 810 or two, esp with an SVT, has long been a first choice for a lot of old-school reggae players, around here in New England anyway, and there's definitely a scene here. Also Peavey gear.

But again, so many roads...
 
Did you have to carve out the sides to be held in with the bolts?
Yes, took about 20 minutes with a hacksaw and a file...here's my How-To. It also details the benefits vs a 3 point:
NEVERTILT 3 point upgrade

25poWlW.jpg


YMMV
 
Quoi de neuf biches?

Still chuntering on about the same old stuff? I have been ~busy with band stuff.

Just pissed the old one off and getting into a new project -- hopefully the g*****d is less of a snugglemuffin. When something comes of it, may even put it up on the intertubes.

As you were.

#888
Great to see you, lady! I just got back myself after a long while. Glad to hear you're getting into a new project. I'm working on some shyte myself. We'll see. Musicians will be musicians.
 
Quoi de neuf biches?

Still chuntering on about the same old stuff? I have been ~busy with band stuff.

Just pissed the old one off and getting into a new project -- hopefully the g*****d is less of a snugglemuffin. When something comes of it, may even put it up on the intertubes.

As you were.

#888
Knew you’d be back. It was only a matter of time.