Two Notes Le Bass Players Club

[pbass6811]

Gots a question for you fine folks, is anyone in this esteemed group using the Le Bass straight into a power amp as their live rig? I’m wanting to set my pedalboard up as my entire rig and I’d like a good tube pre pedal.

I took today off, so I’ll spend some time perusing this thread, but any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks.

 

[hopwheels]

Gots a question for you fine folks, is anyone in this esteemed group using the Le Bass straight into a power amp as their live rig? I’m wanting to set my pedalboard up as my entire rig and I’d like a good tube pre pedal.

I took today off, so I’ll spend some time perusing this thread, but any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Yes, I did this as a test to see if this could work as a backup rig. Ran it into a QSC power amp through my Mesa Subway 112 and 115. Sounded pretty great to me, though I didn’t really dig into all the eq and channel combination possibilities.

 

[Johnny Mac]

Gots a question for you fine folks, is anyone in this esteemed group using the Le Bass straight into a power amp as their live rig? I’m wanting to set my pedalboard up as my entire rig and I’d like a good tube pre pedal.

I took today off, so I’ll spend some time perusing this thread, but any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks.

I used to run the Le Bass into the effects return of my SWR 550x. TBH the signal was kind of weak, probably an input sensitivity mismatch or something.

With a power amp that's designed for it, you'll probably do just fine with the Le Bass.

 

[RoeyHaviv]

Gots a question for you fine folks, is anyone in this esteemed group using the Le Bass straight into a power amp as their live rig? I’m wanting to set my pedalboard up as my entire rig and I’d like a good tube pre pedal.

I took today off, so I’ll spend some time perusing this thread, but any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks.

I’ve used it before straight to my QSC K12, sounds great, a bit different than my usual Aguilar setup but not in a bad way.

 

[mngnt]

Gots a question for you fine folks, is anyone in this esteemed group using the Le Bass straight into a power amp as their live rig? I’m wanting to set my pedalboard up as my entire rig and I’d like a good tube pre pedal.

Hey fellow F-Basser,

I've just ordered a Le Bass with the intention of using it directly into my Crown xls1502... I'll keep you posted!

 

[pbass6811]

Hey fellow F-Basser,

I've just ordered a Le Bass with the intention of using it directly into my Crown xls1502... I'll keep you posted!

I'm definitely interested in your thoughts on this. I went with the TrickFish Trilobite preamp instead of the Le Bass. The TF is INSANELY good(What else would you expect, it's a Mike Pope design!). I did like the Le Bass though, I thought it sounded really full and round, which are really good qualities to me! I seem to agree with a lot of guys in that Cold Fusion was the setting that really made me smile. You will dig the Le Bass, it's a great pre.

I didn't completely abandon Two Notes, I've got a CAB M coming! Should be here Wednesday or Thursday.

 

[Cyril Yabroudi]

I'm definitely interested in your thoughts on this. I went with the TrickFish Trilobite preamp instead of the Le Bass. The TF is INSANELY good(What else would you expect, it's a Mike Pope design!). I did like the Le Bass though, I thought it sounded really full and round, which are really good qualities to me! I seem to agree with a lot of guys in that Cold Fusion was the setting that really made me smile. You will dig the Le Bass, it's a great pre.

I didn't completely abandon Two Notes, I've got a CAB M coming! Should be here Wednesday or Thursday.

Did you get the Cab M already? What's your take on it? I'm considering it as well.

That's my go-to live setup (cold fusion always on!), with a Cab M i believe i'lI have more flexibility in terms of DI out (95 pct of the time sound "engineers" disregard the quality of the bass sound, better have it shaped by your own ears and hands).

 

[pbass6811]

Did you get the Cab M already? What's your take on it? I'm considering it as well.

That's my go-to live setup (cold fusion always on!), with a Cab M i believe i'lI have more flexibility in terms of DI out (95 pct of the time sound "engineers" disregard the quality of the bass sound, better have it shaped by your own ears and hands).
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Hey! Yup, I got it.

I dig it. I took it to my gig last Saturday night, but I couldn't use it because I didn't have the right adapter/cord. I'm going to SA/GC tomorrow to get the necessary stuff and I'll be gigging it this weekend. At low volume, it sounds great! The power amp sims make a big difference. You can still do almost all the editing you need right on the unit! I just downloaded the editing software, but I haven't used it yet. I think it'll be awesome at gig volume...

 

[ddamm]

Hi, guys! Wanna share with you my experience using Le Bass with Adam Cioks power supply .
I didn't notice any difference between 12V and 9V. The same clean channel. The same dirty modes (cold and hot fusion).
I made split power cord and use two outputs (9V 250mA each). As a result I got 500mA that is enought for LeBass. No noise, no hum. Works perfect.
May be it will be usefull information for some LeBass owners.

 

[Cuzzie]

I did the same with my Cioks DC5

 

[DennyOnBass]

Has anyone ever gotten a solid answer on the specs of the tone controls? I've basically been using Cold Fusion mode and running the bass and treble on Channel B somewhere in the vicinity of noon with my PBass and boosting the mids slightly around about 2 o'clock to get my tone, with just a little of channel A mixed in to fill out the bottom a little bit without getting too boomy. I've seen people mention on here that the Bass and Treble controls are boost and cut in previous messages.

However, I happened to run across my manual last night and noticed that it says that the Bass and Treble controls on both channel A and B are passive tone controls. Just out of curiosity, I set the Bass and Treble from channel B down to zero, raised the volume control to match my previous "noon" settings, then brought up both the bass and treble ever so slightly to get the sound I wanted. What I ended up with was very similar to my previous settings, but a little less "hyped" EQ and a little more balanced in the midrange. I also found myself using less boost on the mid control to get the same frequencies to pop out of the overall sound.

I'm all about "if it sounds good it is good," but I'm speculating here from my experience with my old Alembic F-1X preamp that I used to use that both channel A and B are passive tone stacks, with channel B also having an active mid control. That means that the position of the treble and bass controls are more interactive with each other as opposed to a stock active tone control with a boost and cut at a certain frequency with a specific bandwidth.

Maybe this is old news to some of you, and I'm completely happy that I can just get a sound that I really love with this preamp, but it's nice to know specifically what you're working with as far as controls go.

 

[MattNY]

"I'm completely happy that I can just get a sound that I really love with this preamp, but it's nice to know specifically what you're working with as far as controls go."

It really is nice to know for sure! Yes, you can gain the intuition to understand how the controls affect your tone, but understanding the form factor certainly helps.

I run mine mostly in cold fusion with the blend at about 50% and I give channel A a slight bass boost. Otherwise when playing in Channel A, I have the bass knob at 0 (as well as treble) because it sounds flat to me. This makes sense given the passive tone stack. For channel B, I was treating the noon position as flat thinking the controls are active. I give a slight cut to the bass and treble and boost my low mids to taste in Channel B while channel A brings the lower, fatter tone when in Cold Fusion mode. It certainly sounds like Channel B is responding like an active circuit for bass, mids, and treble.

Said differently, treating channel A as a passive circuit (bass and treble at 0) and treating channel B as an active circuit (the noon position being flat) both produce what I would hear as a flat tone, and I am referring to running each channel separately btw. Like Denny, I am just happy I can dial in a tone I LOVE, but I too wonder what the circuits are actually doing.

Are their passive circuits that cut and boost frequencies?

 

[DennyOnBass]

A passive tone stack is definitely cut only, you can't boost. So when you're "boosting" (turning up) bass frequencies in a passive tone stack what you're actually doing is lowering other frequencies to make the lower region be more prevalent in the overall mix. The various tone controls (in this case, bass and treble for each channel) will interact with each other differently depending on where they're set, because you're basically just altering the EQ curve without actually boosting anything.

You can go to this page and search "passive" and see that the Bass and Treble EQ on Channel B is passive and the Mid control is active. Invalid Link Removed

I can't seem to find anything close to flat on Channel B by itself like I can on Channel A. The tone coloring on B is probably intentional, so there probably isn't really a flat setting. I also suspect there's a high pass filter on Channel B, which would make sense to keep your distorted tone from being too boomy. I know that I don't get the same lows until Channel A is combined in.

I suppose I could email Two Notes and see what they say, although I appreciate the discussion.

 

[MattNY]

I certainly think this thing shines for me when I start to blend in the Channel A in Cold Fusion Mode.

 

[DennyOnBass]

I certainly think this thing shines for me when I start to blend in the Channel A in Cold Fusion Mode.

Agreed. It definitely seems to add some dimension. A few times I've convinced myself that I can just use Channel B for a show, but I always end up kicking in Cold Fusion Mode eventually.

 

[ddamm]

I noticed one thing... When I reduce gain on both channels in Hot Fusion mode the sound becomes more clean and open. Of course cabsim is on. I like this sound much more than Channel A dark sound. Who does play like this? May be someone has experience using this mode?

 

[VolverseLoco]

Can anyone give me a picture or full detail of the Le Bass knob settings to achieve that "clanky" type low bass sound like in Queensryche's Jet City Woman on the 1/16 note intro or Megadeth's Symphony Of Destruction? I know there is some distortion in there somewhere. I saw Rick Beato on YouTube do his "What makes This Song Great" thing on Megadeth's Symphony Of Destruction song and he used a Darkglass to get that really low full clank sound on his bass and I have no doubt the Le Bass can do it but I don't even know where to start.

 

[Johnny Mac]

Can anyone give me a picture or full detail of the Le Bass knob settings to achieve that "clanky" type low bass sound like in Queensryche's Jet City Woman on the 1/16 note intro or Megadeth's Symphony Of Destruction? I know there is some distortion in there somewhere. I saw Rick Beato on YouTube do his "What makes This Song Great" thing on Megadeth's Symphony Of Destruction song and he used a Darkglass to get that really low full clank sound on his bass and I have no doubt the Le Bass can do it but I don't even know where to start.

Cold fusion is gonna be your ticket. It'll be mostly channel A with the bass and treble boosted, and then use channel B with lower gain to add a bit more bite to the high end and adjust the midrange to taste.

 

[Rockwriter]

Cold fusion is gonna be your ticket. It'll be mostly channel A with the bass and treble boosted, and then use channel B with lower gain to add a bit more bite to the high end and adjust the midrange to taste.

What about the gain setting on chanel A. and the mids on A&B? thank you

 

[Johnny Mac]

What about the gain setting on chanel A. and the mids on A&B? thank you

I did find this thread, which goes pretty in-depth as to how Dave Ellefson gets his sound:
David Ellefson bass sound

His mids are scooped, though I don't know exactly where to place the sweep. The gain on channel A probably won't matter much - I like it higher, but really just set it to taste.