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Uber 410 = Uber Bad *ss

#361
Any of you guys played through an Uber 210 yet? There aren't any where I live so I can't try them out. I also haven't read any posts or reviews of these on TB so I'm wondering how they sound.

I've had my Uber 212 and Shuttle Max 12 for a few weeks now and it's a GREAT combo! I would like to add another cabinet but the Uber 210 is kind of pricey to buy it without playing it first. I have also considered a used Berg AE210 or a GB Neox112 but I haven't played through these either and don't know how well they would pair with an Uber 212.
 
#364
KsPiNeSh said:
So a store in my area finally got an Uber 410 in (as a part of the "Signature Rig" promo) and I was able to play it. Subsequently, I now own an Uber 410 to go along with my 2 NEOX-212T cabs. My basement is now sporting a "Wall of Genz" :)
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Congratulations-I hope you like your Uber( I have a feeling that you must have after buying it so quickly)...I pair mine with 2 EarCandy BassBomb 212 cabs...these cabs sound so close to the Uber 410 its amazing (the BassBombs have actually been around for several years now)...I call this my "GenzBomb" rig...Peace...DAcat :cool:
 
#365
If I may, can any of you GB fans tell me what you think of this plan of mine. Looking to swap my 2 Ampeg (USA) cabs, 210 and 115, for an Uber 212. The Ampegs were paired with an amp I've since sold, and I'd be using the GB cab with a Walkabout head. Question is, would you consider this a fair trade?
 
#366
DAcat said:
Congratulations-I hope you like your Uber( I have a feeling that you must have after buying it so quickly)...I pair mine with 2 EarCandy BassBomb 212 cabs...these cabs sound so close to the Uber 410 its amazing (the BassBombs have actually been around for several years now)...I call this my "GenzBomb" rig...Peace...DAcat :cool:
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I was (and am) very pleased with what I heard (and continue to hear :bassist:). An earlier post of mine mentioned the XB3 cab that I had played through, and while it was a killer cab in its own right I feel that the Uber was a better choice for me. Honestly though, for whatever reason I was expecting a bigger difference between the Uber and my NEOX 212 cabs. There is definitely a low-end thickness to the Uber that the NEOX 212 does not have, but to my ear I get very similar sounds out of them (which is a very good thing). It is a Genz cab and I know they have a particular design philosophy, so all in all I really shouldn't be that surprised.

Similarly, I also thought it would be bigger. Perhaps my perception is skewed because my last Genz 410 was an original XB series :) Regardless, that thing packs a mighty wallop!
 
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KsPiNeSh said:
Honestly though, for whatever reason I was expecting a bigger difference between the Uber and my NEOX 212 cabs. There is definitely a low-end thickness to the Uber that the NEOX 212 does not have, but to my ear I get very similar sounds out of them (which is a very good thing). It is a Genz cab and I know they have a particular design philosophy, so all in all I really shouldn't be that surprised.
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I've spent about another 4 hours with this cab since that post, giving me ~ 10 or so total since I bought it, and I don't know if it's breaking in or I'm just really starting to pick up on the subtleties of the cab, but this thing is rapidly developing its own sound. I plugged my 1982-ish G&L L1000 in today and holy cow! That cab put out one of the nastiest, grindiest, most delicious tones I've ever heard, and it just kept getting better the more I turned up the amp. It still maintained the accuracy and quickness I've come to love in my Genz cabinets, but jeebus it's got some serious "WUMP". I switched back to my Corvette and noticed more of those same characteristics than before... whatever the cause, I like it.

My name is Brian, and I am an Uber addict :ninja:
 
#370
KsPiNeSh said:
I've spent about another 4 hours with this cab since that post, giving me ~ 10 or so total since I bought it, and I don't know if it's breaking in or I'm just really starting to pick up on the subtleties of the cab, but this thing is rapidly developing its own sound. I plugged my 1982-ish G&L L1000 in today and holy cow! That cab put out one of the nastiest, grindiest, most delicious tones I've ever heard, and it just kept getting better the more I turned up the amp. It still maintained the accuracy and quickness I've come to love in my Genz cabinets, but jeebus it's got some serious "WUMP". I swithced back to my Corvette and noticed more of those same characteristics than before... whatever the cause, I like it.

My name is Brian, and I am an Uber addict :ninja:
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I'm glad you like it Brian. We really tried to put some serious "grunt and growl" into this cab. Some neo cabs on the market (which I really like btw) are very "polite" sounding. We tried to go the other way with this cab.
 
#371
Well, you hit this one out of the park. I've only had a couple of hours with mine, and it's not letting me down one bit. I haven't tried EVERY 2x12 in the world, but I have tried quite a few. The Uber 212 is the king of all 212's in my opinion. Great job, I'm a believer.
 
#372
I too have used a bunch of 212's over the last 10 years and the Uber212 is simply the best sounding 215 cabinet on the market (even tho it only has 12's).

RickenBoogie said:
Well, you hit this one out of the park. I've only had a couple of hours with mine, and it's not letting me down one bit. I haven't tried EVERY 2x12 in the world, but I have tried quite a few. The Uber 212 is the king of all 212's in my opinion. Great job, I'm a believer.
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#374
KsPiNeSh said:
It is a Genz cab and I know they have a particular design philosophy, so all in all I really shouldn't be that surprised.

Similarly, I also thought it would be bigger. Perhaps my perception is skewed because my last Genz 410 was an original XB series :) Regardless, that thing packs a mighty wallop!
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I just saw this part......I know you've posted a more recent post. However, we don't really have a "design philosophy" per se. One of my soap boxes is that amplification is "application specific".

I've also stated that I'm a fan of the Epi 4x10 UL series 1. However, our 4x10 is designed, with intent, to be different. As well, our Uber 2x12 is designed to sound different than the NeoX series.

If I may add three more things:
- Cabinets are an "acoustic instrument". Try them at different SPLS........they will either open up or fold and give in.
- Don't just judge a cab at arms length. This is what we usually do since we are eq'ing the amp as we do it. Walk around some...get further and closer. This is where you'll here a difference between our Uber and NeoX.
- Lastly, listen to the cab in the mix, not just stand-alone. I LOVE our our 2x12's. When I'm playing in a band with a busy mix though, I go with a 4x10 every time.
 
#375
hasbeen said:
I just saw this part......I know you've posted a more recent post. However, we don't really have a "design philosophy" per se. One of my soap boxes is that amplification is "application specific".

I've also stated that I'm a fan of the Epi 4x10 UL series 1. However, our 4x10 is designed, with intent, to be different. As well, our Uber 2x12 is designed to sound different than the NeoX series.

If I may add three more things:
- Cabinets are an "acoustic instrument". Try them at different SPLS........they will either open up or fold and give in.
- Don't just judge a cab at arms length. This is what we usually do since we are eq'ing the amp as we do it. Walk around some...get further and closer. This is where you'll here a difference between our Uber and NeoX.
- Lastly, listen to the cab in the mix, not just stand-alone. I LOVE our our 2x12's. When I'm playing in a band with a busy mix though, I go with a 4x10 every time.
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Maybe "design philosophy" was a bad choice of words. What I meant was that every Genz cabinet that I've ever owned or played (quite a few over the last few years, although Genz has obviously been around much, much longer than that and made a LOT of different gear) has had excellent clarity and quickness, so to me it seems that these are traits that should not be surprising to find in a Genz cab. To my ear, I have found that Ampeg cabs will be dark, GK cabs will be bright, Aguilar cabs like to rumble, etc.

I also agree 100% with your additional points. In the store, I tried both the Uber 212 and the 410. I put them side by side on the floor, snagged a 20 foot cable, and played from a large variety of positions within that possible arc before I made my decision. I did the same thing with the Uber and NEOX cabs at home with my 20 foot cable and have also had a couple of band practices in the same room as my individual practice. While the Uber's thickness has been readily apparent since day 1, for whatever reason it has taken a few hours of play to pick up on the other characteristics of the cab.

For the record, the best live sound I have ever had was a NEOX 212 pushed by my GBE 1200, mic'd up instead of DI. I'm very excited to get the Uber in that same setup and hear the difference through a PA :bassist:
 
#376
KsPiNeSh said:
Maybe "design philosophy" was a bad choice of words. What I meant was that every Genz cabinet that I've ever owned or played (quite a few over the last few years, although Genz has obviously been around much, much longer than that and made a LOT of different gear) has had excellent clarity and quickness, so to me it seems that these are traits that should not be surprising to find in a Genz cab. To my ear, I have found that Ampeg cabs will be dark, GK cabs will be bright, Aguilar cabs like to rumble, etc.

I also agree 100% with your additional points. In the store, I tried both the Uber 212 and the 410. I put them side by side on the floor, snagged a 20 foot cable, and played from a large variety of positions within that possible arc before I made my decision. I did the same thing with the Uber and NEOX cabs at home with my 20 foot cable and have also had a couple of band practices in the same room as my individual practice. While the Uber's thickness has been readily apparent since day 1, for whatever reason it has taken a few hours of play to pick up on the other characteristics of the cab.

For the record, the best live sound I have ever had was a NEOX 212 pushed by my GBE 1200, mic'd up instead of DI. I'm very excited to get the Uber in that same setup and hear the difference through a PA :bassist:
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agreed....we do have philosophy in that sense: we like the quickest repsonse possible and lots of punch. I guess too, you can add on that we don't like a lot of "rumble" below 40hz.

Holy cow....I guess we do have a design philosophy. :D
 
#378
As previously mentioned, my "Wall of Genz":

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Even the cat is impressed :)

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