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Vegetarian Club Anyone?
- Thread starter Fetusyolk
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Well all this has taken a strange turn. I'm not sure I'd agree with some of this things as being scientific and historical facts.
- May 20, 2000
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One of the people who got together with a few others after the Great Dissapointment (1844) to relook at prophesy and to eventually form the basis for our church is a lady we feel was a prophet. She had several visions and wrote a whole lot of books some of which dealt with health and diet.
edit: we still read them.
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One of the people who got together with a few others after the Great Dissappointment (1844) to relook at prophesy and to eventually form the basis for our church is a lady we feel was a prophet. She had several visions and wrote a whole lot of books some of which dealt with health and diet.
edit: we still read them.
And did she practice vegetarianism, or did it come into the ideology later on? How far back can you trace vegetarianism in your religion?
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Wow, according to one article you've had vegetarians in your ranks since the 1870's! That's pretty cool.
Yes many Seventh-day Adventists are vegetarians... same with Sikhs, Hindus, and Buddhists. Gotta be careful how discuss this on TB though. I just got an infraction for discussing Atheism in the Atheist Club thread.
That said, the 10 or 12 vegan friends and associates I know all do it for their concern for the well-being of animals. Thankfully, many of us have toned down the animal rights rhetoric. When I was younger I was a little pushy about it. Then I became older and wiser and realized people make their own choices. All I can do is provide info to them IF the ask for it. This kind of change has to come from the heart and people won't be talked into it. It just makes people angry and is a dis-service to the cause.
The health and environmental reasons for me are a nice side benefit but I could never have done the switch for health reasons. Thats just not meaningful enough for me, but when I think of the plight of animals in factory farms... I know in my heart that I will never touch meat again.
That said, the 10 or 12 vegan friends and associates I know all do it for their concern for the well-being of animals. Thankfully, many of us have toned down the animal rights rhetoric. When I was younger I was a little pushy about it. Then I became older and wiser and realized people make their own choices. All I can do is provide info to them IF the ask for it. This kind of change has to come from the heart and people won't be talked into it. It just makes people angry and is a dis-service to the cause.
The health and environmental reasons for me are a nice side benefit but I could never have done the switch for health reasons. Thats just not meaningful enough for me, but when I think of the plight of animals in factory farms... I know in my heart that I will never touch meat again.
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Well, I was careful not to mention the name of my religion in my posts for that reason. And I am not pushing an agenda. I just know that there are people here who are trying to learn about Vegetarianism and and SDAs have been actively doing it for almost 130 years. So I figure they have a handle on it by now. Not trying to convert anybody, just trying to get pertinate info out there.
been away for a couple days - now playing catch-up here.
i'm vegan as much as i possibly can be. i'm not "perfect", however, in that i have (unknowingly at the time) eaten rice in a restaurant that was cooked in chicken broth
, or thought i read a label thoroughly, only to find that there were eggs or dairy in the product i was eating 
. i've learned over the years to ask questions, and i've toned down my preachiness. you ask a thought-provoking question: would i put aside my ethics in the face of my own mortality? in an acute medical situation, i would take medication. would it bother me? yes. i kill ticks and mosquitoes, but i'll capture a spider or fly in the house and relocate them outside. i'm sure some soap i use in public restrooms was tested on animals at some point. i justify the above actions by saying i wouldn't be any good at promoting compassion for animals if i were dead - from an acute emergency, from a tick or mosquito-borne disease, or from dirty hands.
does doing any of these make me non-vegan, especially since i do it partially out of compassion for animals? i don't know. they're compromises I would/do choose to make. and i don't care what the "vegan police" think. each day i do the best i can and am able, to live peacefully and cause as little harm as possible. but each day is different, we're presented with a different set of decisions to make. what i want to ask of others is to think about: where their food comes from and what all is in it, what is in the cosmectic products they use, and what effect their purchases have on the earth and all its creatures. just to be more aware. i couldn't do that any longer if i were dead.
but, it's only a request...not a demand.
been away for a couple days - now playing catch-up here.
i'm vegan as much as i possibly can be. i'm not "perfect", however, in that i have (unknowingly at the time) eaten rice in a restaurant that was cooked in chicken broth
you ask a thought-provoking question: would i put aside my ethics in the face of my own mortality? in an acute medical situation, i would take medication. would it bother me? yes. i kill ticks and mosquitoes, but i'll capture a spider or fly in the house and relocate them outside. i'm sure some soap i use in public restrooms was tested on animals at some point. i justify the above actions by saying i wouldn't be any good at promoting compassion for animals if i were dead - from an acute emergency, from a tick or mosquito-borne disease, or from dirty hands.
does doing any of these make me non-vegan, especially since i do it partially out of compassion for animals? i don't know. they're compromises I would/do choose to make. and i don't care what the "vegan police" think. each day i do the best i can and am able, to live peacefully and cause as little harm as possible. but each day is different, we're presented with a different set of decisions to make. what i want to ask of others is to think about: where their food comes from and what all is in it, what is in the cosmectic products they use, and what effect their purchases have on the earth and all its creatures. just to be more aware. i couldn't do that any longer if i were dead.
but, it's only a request...not a demand.
amazingly spoken.
just wunderin' how the new vegans here are doing . . . 
and thx for the nice compliments :::::BASSIST:::: and kgood
and thx for the nice compliments :::::BASSIST:::: and kgood
Thanks for asking. About two weeks in so far. I haven't been counting calories (yet), so I don't think I've lost any lbs. Still I am eating healthier. It helps to go shopping at least once a week and pack my own lunches.
I made a really good tofu scramble yesterday. It was surprisingly good.
I made a really good tofu scramble yesterday. It was surprisingly good.
keep up the great job!
yes, you're right that packing your own stuff makes meals easier. (i don't go anywhere without at least an apple and some nuts or pb crackers, just-in-case.) tofu scramble is a hit with my omnivore hubby - he claims just about **anything** tastes better with ketchup (j/k). i'm curious, where have you been getting your ideas for recipes - books? the web?
I usually look up several versions of a recipe on the web, and combine or alter them to "improve" them. Sometime I just improvise based on what is in my cupboard.
Still on the vegan kick, but the last 3-4 days I've been ravenous hungry. Any thoughts on why this might be? I am doing a decent job eating different fruits and veggies each day.
