Was there any good punk rock?

[flannel cat]

Punk rock is the musical soil were I was born. It taught me a lot and shaped many of my views about life and music.

AMEN!.....

 

[flannel cat]

Best part of this thread is the soundtrack......

 

[zubrycky]

It's time ro some J.J. Burnel awesomeness.

 

[Killing Floor]

Good means I like it. Value means You like it. Every album I have is good. Every band I’ve ever seen live more than once is good. Was there value in scrawny British artsy kids copping the blues? Is there value in opera during the “no brow” era?
Good means I like it. Value means You like it.

 

[zubrycky]

Here's a great and unknown punk rock song.

The original.



The version.

 

[pbass2]

It gets even better:

It really is a bizarre post. Like, "how does this person get through the day?" weird.
But the thread sure has some great music in it!

 

[Bassdoggydogg]

I admit that I used to love the Ramones when I was a kid, but I don't really get most of it beyond that.

Just because something caused a big sensation doesn't mean that it had value. And it seems like the people who went to the concerts were always trying to find some new experience to make them happy. And it never really happened if they still talk about the past.

What do you think.

Yeah man I'll bite. Let's break this down literally when it comes to punk rock an value. What was the best selling album off an independent label for a LONG, LONG, time? The Offsprings Smash album off Epitaph records would be your answer. Oh and guess what? All the bands that were on Epitaph records at that time are still making good money selling albums/tickets. They've done it pretty much with their own merit/talent as they had very little marketing back in the day, aside from mainstream labels interest in Offspring and Green Day (I'm guessing you've heard of them too). They actually promoted songs for free in old surfing videos too, which got them many fans. So I guess that financial success does = value in a lot of cases, this clearly being one of them when you break it down.

I find it sad when people who favor other genres look down on punk rockers. Envy is tough to deal with I guess (I'm not referencing you OP). The thing is, I truly dont think any of these bands knew how big they'd get. I think they played punk because they value it in an emotional sense, as I and many others do. Luckily for the world they honed thier skills practicing night and day. The end result was music so good that it contained every kind of value imaginable.

 

[zubrycky]

A true punk rocker doesn't care about "value". He/she just do his/her thing.

 

[sonic 7]

Well first thing that needs to be cleared up is, what exactly is “punk” rock. Would it be defined as an organic counter culture genre . Politically charged lyrics, crude but competent musicianship ? The Sex Pistols fit that definition, but were they really four guys from the gritty council flats that got together on their own and started a band ? No , they were a creation of Malcolm Mclaren , a producer. The same can be said of the Ramones . They were a concept of Tommy Irdelyi, what was Joey rebelling against, he grew up in the wealthiest neighborhood in Queens. Were the Jam , The Buzzcocks , The Only Ones punk ? I think they wore skinny ties so they would have to be pigeonholed into “New Wave” . Rage against the Machine would have been labeled “punk” if the term was still fashionable in the early 90s. But would they still be punk today when when their message simply reflects mainstream opinion and their founder is a wealthy millionaire?

 

[zubrycky]

It's French punk rock time!

 

[zubrycky]

"Stop and wonder..."

 

[sxaxsx]

I doubt we can get a consensus of what punk rock is let alone a consensus of whether or not any of it was subjectively good or valuable.

 

[zubrycky]

There's pronk too.

 

[ACRock]

 

[zubrycky]

 

[Chipmonstr]

I still listen to punk stuff from time to time.

Are the Dwarves the greatest musicians to ever walk the planet? Maybe, maybe not, but it’s great music to work out some aggression.

Nope. The Dwarves are still the best band ever....

 

[J_Bass]

 

[BassBrass]

Dumb Corporate Rock made punk necessary; it was just Do It Yourself-ism and that's creative political act by itself because it cuts out the sleazy middleman. Some punk was simple and some was complex. I was in the jazz camp when I saw (Urgh on PBS) and heard Gang of 4 (in a record store)...then The Swans. Then Minutemen. Those day were very good and when we indulge in reminiscence if for all the clubs a new band could play in in Boston. Or how easy it was to tour with gas at $1.75.
For women the riot girl movement was necessary too. The slew of new women led bands is amazing.

 

[ELG60]

I agree fully with @Gorn 's post. I'm sure that even G.G. Allin provided some . . . Er, entertainment value at his shows.

 

[Grinderman]