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Who's rocking two fifteens, no tweeters?

I used Traynor 2-15 cabs for years with no complaints. I am another guy that does not use tweeters in any combo or head/cab configuration. Just last year I downsized to a Peavey 115 to reduce the weight of stuff to haul. Further to that, this past month I downsized to a pair of Traynor TC112s which weigh in at 25 lbs each. They have tweeters but I don't use them.
 
That said, if you like the sound of fifteens alone there's nothing wrong with running them alone. I can't imagine running one without a mid driver, but I have the advantage of having used fifteens and sixes/eights. Since that option is about as common as a solvent automobile manufacturer the average player wouldn't have any frame of reference to judge whether it's something he should look into.

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I'm with our engineer friend Bill here. I use an old Ampeg B3158 just the cab bi-amped through an SVT 4-Pro, and not only does it massage my feet while I play, I can also hear myself even if I have to stand right in front of it.

A quick question about the x-over though, I usually leave it close to about 500hz and run it mostly flat (eq and x balance) Fender Jazz, Rotosound heavy flats. I like the what I hear, but am almost completely ignorant on the effects of different x-over frequencies...

Any thoughts or general "ball park-ish" "rules of thumb" about different frequencies and their expected results?
 
A quick question about the x-over though, I usually leave it close to about 500hz and run it mostly flat (eq and x balance) Fender Jazz, Rotosound heavy flats. I like the what I hear, but am almost completely ignorant on the effects of different x-over frequencies...

Any thoughts or general "ball park-ish" "rules of thumb" about different frequencies and their expected results?

That honestly depends on what drivers are being used and their natural roll off points and/or frequency response spikes/dips, driver sensitivity, impedance swings, and what X-over slope you want to use. Have you ever played around with WinISD? It's not perfect, but it will give you a pretty decent idea of what to expect in the woofer/mid transition area. I'm sorry that I didn't give a more "concrete" answer, but I don't feel there is one to that question. The "best" X-over point for any pair of drivers is determined by so many variables that there isn't a set "right" answer IMHO.

Zach
 
Gobs of great looking (and I'm sure sounding) 2x15 set-ups here. I've haven't had good luck yet with 2x15 cabs. My last one was an Acoustic that got reloaded with Eminence drivers and it just didn't float my yacht. I replaced that with a Berg NV610. In almost 30 years of playing/gear I've never heard or felt a better sounding cab. And its smaller than any 2x15 I've had but has twice the overall speaker volume.
 
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I play on this cab whenever I can, really enjoy the sound of the 15's without the tweeter. It's just right for me. We probably wouldn't have built these if it wasn't for player requests a few years back.
 
I finally broke out the camera. No tweeters necessary.

The more I play that Titan, the more I love it! Actually my gig rig is the Titan on the BEs or the NV610 - once again no tweeters on that either.

On second thought if I WERE to play Bob's Country Bunker, then I would bring the Mesa Cabs, those grills repel beer bottles like you don't know.

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I've never played the BE's but I hear lots of good reports on them.
I had two ole diesel 15's like yours: they bring it.

Chef,

I agree with you about the Mesas, and listen to this, someone gave me the pair. They were given to him and he wanted to upgrade and decided to pay it forward.

The BEs are just as round sounding and forceful as the Mesas AND they have a more articulate upper end to them, they really have a nice "grind", which is why they are my top choice.

I may never play my NV610 again.
 
Chef,

I agree with you about the Mesas, and listen to this, someone gave me the pair. They were given to him and he wanted to upgrade and decided to pay it forward.

The BEs are just as round sounding and forceful as the Mesas AND they have a more articulate upper end to them, they really have a nice "grind", which is why they are my top choice.


Care to pay it forward again...I mean, since the Bags are your top choice and all...the Mesas are just taking up space, right?...I'd use those bad boys today.
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Care to pay it forward again...I mean, since the Bags are your top choice and all...the Mesas are just taking up space, right?...I'd use those bad boys today.
:D

Sorry, I need practice cabs too. ;)These cabs aren't going anywhere, (except my drummer's practice room).

Maybe this will help you, it is how I got the cabs. Start talking bass with an old buddy over a few beers and see where it gets you.
 
Sorry, I need practice cabs too. ;)These cabs aren't going anywhere, (except my drummer's practice room).

Maybe this will help you, it is how I got the cabs. Start talking bass with an old buddy over a few beers and see where it gets you.

I was only slightly kidding...I'll be building my own 2x15 (TL606-based) cabinet using Eminence Kappalite 3015's. My sons are going to help, but they're only 6 and 3, so I'll at least be able to rock it for a few years before they steal it...er...I mean before I pay it forward to them.