AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...

[John D Harris]

I doubt this has happened, but thought I'd check: has anyone used either a pair of Birdhaus 48 or three Birdhaus 46 with a BEADG five-string electric bass guitar?

You could do some out of the box arrangements with 3x B46.

 

[DukeLeJeune]

Anyone got their hands on a 1506 yet? I demo’d a 1505 a few years ago and loved the grindy you could get. If I remember correctly the new 1506 was going to be voiced a bit more aggressively than the 1533 or 1203.

I have been slowed by the record-setting wet weather we have had over the past six weeks or so. The ground is still so waterlogged that even with two dehumidifiers running full blast in my wooden-floored shop the humidity is too high for Duratex to dry properly right now, and it only gets one chance at "drying properly" because the more volatile chemicals will evaporate anyway. So I have been cutting boards and doing preliminary glue-ups (and working on a big order for a different market - thank goodness that is behind me, it was a nightmare).

So I have a whole bunch of 115 cabs started on, and good weather predicted for the next week or so, so I'll get some of those cabs finished and shipped.

I did manage to snag a few more of those sadly-discontinued Eminence 5" cone mids from what I think is the last Eminence dealer to have any left in stock. I've already got some in reserve just in case anybody has a failure (which hasn't happened yet), so now I can theoretically do a few more 1505's.

 

[svtb15]

The rain has been massive here.. True, everything is still soggy.. the soccer fields in mckinney were under 2 feet of water or more.. so much water that swans and ducks were swimming in the fields..

I have been slowed by the record-setting wet weather we have had over the past six weeks or so. The ground is still so waterlogged that even with two dehumidifiers running full blast in my wooden-floored shop the humidity is too high for Duratex to dry properly right now, and it only gets one chance at "drying properly" because the more volatile chemicals will evaporate anyway. So I have been cutting boards and doing preliminary glue-ups (and working on a big order for a different market - thank goodness that is behind me, it was a nightmare).

So I have a whole bunch of 115 cabs started on, and good weather predicted for the next week or so, so I'll get some of those cabs finished and shipped.

I did manage to snag a few more of those sadly-discontinued Eminence 5" cone mids from what I think is the last Eminence dealer to have any left in stock. I've already got some in reserve just in case anybody has a failure (which hasn't happened yet), so now I can theoretically do a few more 1505's.

 

[Kirk Bryant]

And so it begins, the Monsoon season arrives again. Oddly here in Oregon it’s been unseasonably dry. If only I could send you some sun, I certainly would. Checking my Wunderground weather app, I see 5 dry days after you get nailed on Monday.
May Ra smile upon you soon!!!

 

[Kirk Bryant]

Perhaps we need a sacrifice.... would an old GK cab suffice? Of course I’m asking for a friend.




Perhaps a Schroeder with a blown speaker..........(ducks for cover)......

 

[Lowendtech]

Friday nights rig consisted of:
Dingwall SP/J -> Broughton P-15 -> BB800 (set flat) -> AudioKinesis C112T/Hathor 1203. The C112T was on the bottom pointed at the audience and the H1203 was on top, pointed at my drummers head. I’ve pilfered this idea from @nostatic and it worked like a champ. Thanks Todd.
Tons of compliments were coming from both audience and band members. Drummer boy (he’s less than half my age) just loved it.

 

[Al Kraft]

On some nights it's hard to tell who is happier with my Changeling 112T cab, me, the drummer, the sound tech, or the audience!

 

[dave64o]

Sounds like it's actually a win-win-win-win scenario.

 

[Al Kraft]

Sounds like it's actually a win-win-win-win scenario.

...and if he was there to hear it, I would hope Duke would be rightfully proud for a five-way win!

 

[dave64o]

I stand corrected.

 

[fourstr00]

Thread bump...

Put down a deposit on a C112T last week and looking forward to the options it’s going to present. I already have a 1203 and have been really, really happy with it. Question for those that have a Changling or T:

How much louder and deeper is the T or C in a band setting compared to the regular H1203? I’m kind of envisioning this cab could stand between the 1203 for small acoustic shows, this new cab for slightly bigger venues, and the full stack for outdoors. Is the volume and sound difference minimal, and if not, where do you think each cab shines best?

The bands I work with are insane about low stage volume (lots of acoustic instruments and delicate arrangements) so I’m curious how this will fit into the arsenal.

 

[DukeLeJeune]

How much louder and deeper is the T or C in a band setting compared to the regular H1203?

The front-firing mid on the Hathor 1203 is theoretically a little bit louder than the front-firing mid on the Changeling 112. This is because I had to keep an eye on the impedance curve so that the Changeling 112 remained an "8 ohm" cab. The difference is a fraction of a decibel.

The Tall versions have 2 dB more output at the 62 Hz first overtone of low-B, but the "regular" height versions are theoretically very slightly louder in the upper bass region (by a small fraction of a dB).

The bands I work with are insane about low stage volume (lots of acoustic instruments and delicate arrangements) so I’m curious how this will fit into the arsenal.

The rear-firing mid in the Changeling cabs starts out about 3 dB quieter than the front-firing mid over most of its spectrum, but it actually goes deeper (is crossed over lower) than the front-firing mid. This is because, around back, we're not getting very much contribution from the top end of the woofer. Then there's a switch which shelves down the rear-firing mid by another 7 dB, and that switch is specifically for situations where stage volume is an issue. With the -7 dB switch engaged, the rear-firing mid's contribution to stage volume will be much less than the already-omnidirectional (or nearly so) lows from the woofer, but I think it will still be useful.

(The "acoustic friendly" version of the Thunderchild cabs, which has been out there for about eight years now, has a rear-firing horn that's about -10 dB relative to the front-firing horn, and no switch. I've been telling people that if they want to turn the rear-firing horn off, to block it off with a piece of tape. To the best of my knowledge nobody has ever found the rear-firing horn on the "acoustic friendly" Thunderchild cabs to be detrimental. The worst report I've gotten on them is that, if the mix is loud, the rear-firing horn gets buried and makes no useful contribution.)

Fortunately you have the Hathor 1203 if it turns out that the Changeling puts out too much stage volume even with the -7 dB switch engaged. I'd be interested in hearing back about which cab is best for that delicate acoustic gig... I think it would be the Changeling, because it's arguably an "acoustic friendly" version of the Hathor, but we won't know until you try it!

 

[fourstr00]

I think it would be the Changeling, because it's arguably an "acoustic friendly" version of the Hathor, but we won't know until you try it!

Hey, I’m game if you are!

On the other end of the spectrum, I have had a few shows where I would have liked to have used the “sealed” sound, but needed to pull the ports to get lows up to support the band. It sounds like this might do the trick in both directions.

 

[tombowlus]

Thread bump...

Put down a deposit on a C112T last week and looking forward to the options it’s going to present. I already have a 1203 and have been really, really happy with it. Question for those that have a Changling or T:

How much louder and deeper is the T or C in a band setting compared to the regular H1203? I’m kind of envisioning this cab could stand between the 1203 for small acoustic shows, this new cab for slightly bigger venues, and the full stack for outdoors. Is the volume and sound difference minimal, and if not, where do you think each cab shines best?

The bands I work with are insane about low stage volume (lots of acoustic instruments and delicate arrangements) so I’m curious how this will fit into the arsenal.

I do not feel that the C112T is noticeably louder, overall, than the 1203 when compared side-by-side, but you do notice the increased output (and depth) in the low end (compared to a non-T Hathor 1203). The two cabs play very nicely together!

 

[DukeLeJeune]

On the other end of the spectrum, I have had a few shows where I would have liked to have used the “sealed” sound, but needed to pull the ports to get lows up to support the band. It sounds like this might do the trick in both directions.

The rear-firing mid on the Changeling doesn't go low enough to give you any lows, if that's what you mean.

On a two-cab gig, you can run one cab sealed and one ported if that turns out to be the "Goldilocks zone". And both woofers don't necessarily need to be facing forwards... you could have the Hathor facing forwards and the Changeling facing backwards, this would give you two mids forward and one mid backwards along with one woofer facing each direction.

 

[nostatic]

The rear-firing mid on the Changeling doesn't go low enough to give you any lows, if that's what you mean.

On a two-cab gig, you can run one cab sealed and one ported if that turns out to be the "Goldilocks zone". And both woofers don't necessarily need to be facing forwards... you could have the Hathor facing forwards and the Changeling facing backwards, this would give you two mids forward and one mid backwards along with one woofer facing each direction.

When I run both C1203T and H1203, I typically turn the H1203 on top 90 degrees to point at the drummer's head. Usually at his request

 

[Lowendtech]

When I run both C1203T and H1203, I typically turn the H1203 on top 90 degrees to point at the drummer's head. Usually at his request

I tried that at my last gig. It was well received by my drummer and the guitarist/vocalist on that side of the stage. Worked very well.

 

[Roxbororob]

Can I point the whole rig at my drummers head..?

Woops, Freudian slip!

 

[John D Harris]

I doubt this has happened, but thought I'd check: has anyone used either a pair of Birdhaus 48 or three Birdhaus 46 with a BEADG five-string electric bass guitar?

You could do some out of the box arrangements with 3x B46.

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[MarkA]

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I haven't played the Birdhaus cabs, but I dig their proposed mission of a more enveloping, omnidirectional presentation.

What were you considering doing with multiples of those cabs? Stacking is the obvious thing, but not very "out of the box". Stereo effects? Three-channel (!) something or other? Something else?