Crossdressing and bandmates.

[devnulljp]

on the topic of wizards from books so did Gandalf

And this man is wearing a skirt of some kind

 

[I am Soma]

And this man is wearing a skirt of some kind

What a metrosexual.

 

[slobake]

I still think it's weird that a piece of cloth can be seen as "for men" or "for women" anyway.
Wear what you like, whether it's jeans and a T-shirt or high heels and a tutu, I don't care.
Anyone that has a problem with what other people do or wear is a doofus IMO.

Yes sir, I like to wear what I am comfortable in and I respect anyone else's right to do the same.

 

[Ubersheist]

I ain't even transgendered or gay

If you are on stage in a dress, you'll get girls. Lots of them.

I am disappointed by how a solid portion of the players would "quit the band" or have a strong feeling against cross dressing on stage. Isn't that what playing music is for?!? Personal expression?

I don't have that inner drive to wear women's clothes, but in my younger years, I did just for a gas/gag on stage a number of times, and I ALWAYS go drag at Halloween. It was fun, makes me feel crazy sexy, and got me phone numbers, too. It's way more comfortable on gigs - less hot and sweaty, lots of breath-ability and skin exposed.

 

[Ubersheist]

OK, I get that. So, lets say I have a deli and a homosexual couple comes in and orders sandwiches and are very loyal customers. I make them sandwiches and actually enjoy talking to them. But then one day they ask me to cater their wedding and the event violates my religious beliefs, and I am taught to not participate in such events.

I'm not discriminating against them when I deny. I've proved it by serving them sandwiches for a long time. Rather, I'm refusing to take part in an event to avoid violating my religious convictions. The first amendment protects my right to NOT participate in something that violates my religious beliefs.

Does that not seem reasonable?

Or are you saying that a person with religious convictions must not be allowed to put food on the table by owning their own business. That sounds kinda in violation of the first amendment.

You'll approve their lifestyle, except when there's legally bonding paperwork asssociated with their lifestyle? That just sounds like you're a hypocrit, then.

Gambling may be considered a sin. Would you serve sandwiches to a heavy gambler, but draw the line at catering "casino night" at their house? There's so many other sins out there that are FAR more detrimental to society then two people who love each other. Why not boycott the sins that actually matter in society? [/Liberal rant]

 

[Marial]

I hear you. If anyone goes to the lobby they can see how I feel about a certain subject that we should not talk about here but that we can talk about in the lobby. If we could talk about that subject here I would say that respect and understanding for others does not violate my convictions about a certain subject. Of course I wouldn't say that because we can't talk about that here.

You know what? You can have my Bud Lite.

 

[RoadRanger]

You know what? You can have my Bud Lite.

No Zima jokes allowed ?

BTW what's up with that last bar I played in that had Bud Lite, Miller Lite, and Coors Light on tap but no non-light domestics ?

 

[DreadyDiggs]

I'd no clue until now that Rasta culture is anti-LGBT.

Look up Buju Banton song Boom Bye Bye.

"Boom Bye Bye in a batty bwoy head." Batty bwoys are gay men. Check out Sizzla, Capleton, etc. The older generation is way less talkative about it, but the feelings are the same. The newer generation have no problem speaking about it, cause they see it as truth. Many a concert has been canceled because the venue would not allow homophobia.

 

[Max Blasto]

Aaaaaand that's exactly why I think the Christian couple being fined for refusing to bake a cake is stupid. However, I think it's absolutely fine for everyone to boycott them, protest outside of their building, and do whatever they can (within the law) to put them out of business. But it isn't the government's responsibility to dictate what businesses can and can't do in terms of choosing who to serve to.

In the US, we have a system for resolving these disputes.

Your opinion has already been adjudicated and found unconstitutional.
Heart of Atlanta Motel vs. United States. 1964.

This has been the law of the land for over 50 years. Please catch up.

Wanna go into business? Great, now you have to obey the rules of business (including not discriminating). Can't get through life without discriminating? Don't go into business. You have the choice and those are your choices.

It's not important that you agree with the law of the land. It's only important that you comply with it.

 

[Marial]

No Zima jokes allowed ?

BTW what's up with that last bar I played in that had Bud Lite, Miller Lite, and Coors Light on tap but no non-light domestics ?

Singles bar?

 

[Max Blasto]

And what, exactly, does that mean, from a first amendment perspective?

It means intolerance of other people's civil rights is not one of your civil rights.

 

[RoadRanger]

Singles bar?

Strangely enough it was a hard drinkin' Polish Club.

 

[Marial]

Strangely enough it was a hard drinkin' Polish Club.

Huh...

 

[Michael B]

I would be cautious of my bandmate's safety at some gigs but would back them up if they still wanted to do it.

I like issues like this because it tells me a ton about who a person is. I'm sure it's mutual.

Eventually this will be a non-issue as the intolerant ones die off. In the meantime we can celebrate people and their individuality.

Trying to picture my current bandmates cross dressing. I doubt this will ever come up for this band.

 

[ZBirdV8]

Religious and political connotations have nothing to do with me. That don't belong here.

I am non-denominational Christian male, I don't vote, and I will make my own damn cake.

 

[GwenOnBass]

Look up Buju Banton song Boom Bye Bye.

"Boom Bye Bye in a batty bwoy head." Batty bwoys are gay men. Check out Sizzla, Capleton, etc. The older generation is way less talkative about it, but the feelings are the same. The newer generation have no problem speaking about it, cause they see it as truth. Many a concert has been canceled because the venue would not allow homophobia.

This means I can be officially colored out-of-touch with Rasta culture. The last reggae artist I saw in concert was Desmond Dekker in 79, and I would have been lost on these lyrics without the translation. Kind of blows my mind that with all things to be concerned about, that LGBTs occupy such a high place on anyone's list.

And sort-of-back on the thread topic, my assessment is I would risk more fallout at a gig not wearing a bra than a dude wearing a dress. I've seen dudes in dresses since Zappa's "We're Only In It For The Money". Come to think of it, Bugs Bunny may have fooled Elmer Fudd, but not me.

 

[-Asdfgh-]

I would say that stiletto heels on any one, cross dressing or not, are probably dangerous on many if the stages I've been on, given some of the narrow and uneven steps up to them. Plus on crowded ones I'd worry about my feet. So, guys and gals, flats, or wedges please.

 

[David Jayne]

Religious and political connotations have nothing to do with me. That don't belong here.

I am non-denominational Christian male, I don't vote, and I will make my own damn cake.

You seem committed. : D

 

[JimmyM]

If you are on stage in a dress, you'll get girls. Lots of them.

I am disappointed by how a solid portion of the players would "quit the band" or have a strong feeling against cross dressing on stage. Isn't that what playing music is for?!? Personal expression?

Depends on the project. A lot of bands are about only one person's personal expression. And some bands have dress codes and conduct codes. Mine does, for example. We all wear the same thing and none of us drink during our gigs (some of us don't drink hardly at all). If that's what you're looking for, that's cool, but it will exclude you from certain bands, but not because they're necessarily anti-LGBT, just that's how they operate.

 

[JimmyM]

This means I can be officially colored out-of-touch with Rasta culture. The last reggae artist I saw in concert was Desmond Dekker in 79, and I would have been lost on these lyrics without the translation. Kind of blows my mind that with all things to be concerned about, that LGBTs occupy such a high place on anyone's list.

Totally agreed. Not cool at all. I love reggae music but not that anti-gay "murder music," as some call it.

You saw Desmond Dekker live? Well I don't know how he felt about gay people but I LOVE his music! That is so awesome you got to see him sing live.

And sort-of-back on the thread topic, my assessment is I would risk more fallout at a gig not wearing a bra than a dude wearing a dress. I've seen dudes in dresses since Zappa's "We're Only In It For The Money". Come to think of it, Bugs Bunny may have fooled Elmer Fudd, but not me.

But to be fair, we saw Bugs change into a dress and Elmer didn't