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Do you or Beck support OWS?
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And let us not forget the politicians.
You want to be angry? Here.
The numbers on that photo are largely incorrect.
I will have to go find the sources. I didn't memorize the details.
However, I have on hand something quite interesting.
Date established Salary Salary in 2009
September 24, 1789 $25,000 $566,000
March 3, 1873 $50,000 $865,000
March 4, 1909 $75,000 $1,714,000
January 19, 1949 $100,000 $906,000
January 20, 1969 $200,000 $1,175,000
January 20, 2001 $400,000 $487,000
Sources:[44][45][46]
This is a chart of the salaries of Presidents in history. Can you tell me what it shows?
Dude, I just did some of your research for you. The salary of senators number was correct. The president's salry is correct when you figure in the expense account.
The numbers are correct. You say they aren't? Prove it. A cursory google search is all it takes.
The numbers are correct. You say they aren't? Prove it. A cursory google search is all it takes.
Only there isn't a free market. There is corporate welfare galore. Our government works for the 1%.
scottfeldstein
Roots and fifths and a little extra.
Seems to me you have people to blame, too. The difference is, well, reality. Hippies in the park with drums didn't crash the economy. Wall Street bankers did.
Stop the nonsense. Nobody here is saying we all have to live like Communists and you know it. I'm all about being wealthy. Most Americans hold the rich in pretty high regard. I'd like to be rich. And if I achieved that goal, I wouldn't feel a bit bad about it. There's no shame in winning. But we're not talking about winning. We're talking about cheating. It wasn't hard work and moral fortitude that determined who got bailed out and who didn't. Most people seem to realize that. Why don't you?
Those CEOs make billions because the don't pay any taxes and get subsidies to boot! How on earth is that the fault of the 99%
You might want to do deeper research. This seems to be a problem with viral information and propaganda.
Presidents DO NOT get paid $450k for life. When they retire from Presidency, they receive roughly $200k a year.
I don't know the stats for the rest of the House/Senate members, but I assume with a quick search I could find a similar method. I can easily assume though that they do not make salary for life the same they did in office.
Alas, you did not answer my question?
You are correct. Politicians determined that. ALL of them, not just dems, not just reps, ALL of them. This country needs a revolution alright, but poor people biting the hand that feeds them isn't going to help anyone.
scottfeldstein
Roots and fifths and a little extra.
44% of US citizens pay no income tax.
Most American corporations pay no federal income tax either, so what's your point? And even those corporations who do pay fed income, 90% of them are paying 5% or less.
Your reality is warped. Wall Street doesn't make money out of thin air. Consumers buy the products that Wall Street sells. Wall Street is a pile of trash but who were the people who let the pile of trash grow in their yard?
The Consumers.
Thank you for the geography lesson. I meant to say any European country. And you are correct about skilled workers. But what about most workers who didn't have the time or money to get a higher education? What are they supposed to do?
And let us not forget the politicians.
You want to be angry? Here.
I'm not going to get involved, I'm not going to get involved...sigh...
The CEO of GE makes about $10 million/year in total compensation, GE's gross sales are something like $75 billion/year. (And the CEO of GE is underpaid compared to CEOs for companies with much smaller yearly sales.)
The US President makes $400K/year and heads an organization with a yearly budget of about $2.6 Trillion dollars.
So, using the corporate number for GE to "properly" scale the salary for the President gives a presidential salary that should be about $350 Million/year. That would be an 875 times salary increase for the President.
And that doesn't even take into account the other compensation that the CEO of GE gets that doesn't show up in his salary.
While politicians *may* cause alot of problems within our system, they really are not the money holders in the USA, and going after their salaries would not do much good.
I feel bad for adding to this mess.
Why shouldn't we fight this unfair system? Are you saying there have been no successful Revolutions in human history? There have been and there is one going on now. Read Karl Marx.
My grandfather was skilled in the creation of metal furniture and metal windows. Did he get educated?
Nope. He worked hard.
The people who can't get a higher education (and that includes the people who can't afford it who somehow believe getting into $60k of debt is intelligent for a degree in Psychology) should use their skills of intelligence, strength, endurance, and a good attitude.
You are correct.
And I did not answer your question because you are trying to goad me into a political discussion. I don't care when the salary increased. You may note that it has not been subsequently returned to previous levels. That photo also fails to point out the lifetime cadillac health care deal they get. Nor did it point out the fact that while the rest of the country was in recession, politicians voted themselves a pay raise. VOTED THEMSELVES A PAY RAISE. I wish I could do that.
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