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Fender Rumble Club

Alright, I got to go to GC and AB the 500c to the 200c extensively. Both turned on, side by side, same settings (flat per the wiki), just popping in and out the cable, riff by riff. What a hard decision. They both sound way above their price point.

Without getting too wordy: I think the 200c sounds a tad sweeter soloed than the 500c but the 500c has a tad more clarity and articulation that will sit better in a band mix. Its so close though.

The 200c OD channel sounds better through the 15 but the 500c clean sound is a little more clear which isn't necessarily better but will translate better to a mix imo.

I think if I had to record with one mic'd I would pick 200c but if I want to gig with a rock band I think it's the 500c. The 500c also sounded a tad louder on the same Master setting. And also sounded really good sitting on the floor.

My buddy made a good point that the DI out of both to FOH will sound almost identical since they are basically the same amp circuit so the audience will hear the same whether 200c or 500c

If I was blindfolded and someone was gonna hand me a free one, I wouldn't care which model they gave me.

In conclusion I think I will go 500c, but you know what I feel: if they had a 500c 212 that would be the ultimate best of all worlds! When does that model come out lol?

Sounds pretty much like the typical 15 vs 210 sound profiles, and 350w vs 140w. Granted to really push them in. GC is hard to get away with.

210 s are scoopy so the OD will sound more natural on a 15 unless you eq to compensate, and 210 always has that punchy articulation, but the 15 in the rumble is almost like the 15 in the son of bertha which had a very fast reponse for a 15. The SOB and the R200 have been the only 115 that I have really enjoyed on its own. Though I can only remember one time I decided to gig with just the SOB, and my mids were angrier than ever that night. Usually I used the goliath III and only brought the SOB to make the full stack. Had the SOB not been stolen I would be using that with the 200c.

I would argue that the 15 will cut through a band mix better because it is that hair on the mids that does it. 10s tend to be more transparent, solid lows and clearer highs but scooped mids. Of course you can eq to compensate either way and are not stuck solely by the speaker profiles. Old school thinking was put the 15 on the bottom. We thought the 15 was like a sub and the 10s were like mids when in reality it is the opposite. I can only imagine how much better definition and dispersion I would have had had my 410 been on the bottom and my 115 on top. It would have made me look like a "noob" back in the 90s, but man I wish I did that . now with the 200c the 210 acts as a sub and raises that 15 higher which is a huge benefit. And the grilles cover up the optical oddities.

I had used the 200c with an ampeg 210 from the black mini svt, at my first gig with the 2000 in 2015, and used my working man 10 cab with it in a few rehearsals. The SOB got stolen later that year along with the wm110t and wm10 amp, my goliath Jr II and bass350 amp/rack as well as a guitar cabinet and other small valuables including a gold watch when I ran out of gas in Victimville later that year. So my rumble has been played through acoustic b115 in a rehearsal studio, an acoustic b115neo that was backline at a show, 2x because I liked it so much the first time that I did it again. So really any decent 115 makes a slamming addition to it. Of course the 112 was what I used for most of the other gigs but if I had a chance to plug into a bigger cab I would. One time there was a 212 GK cab, and that thing absolutely slammed, reminded me of the days playing the big SWR rig.

I have yet to really crank the 210 yet, but it sounded good the 2 rehearsals I used it at before deciding to leave it at home. I am pretty sure it will slam pretty well though, but 212 is much more air than 115, and that made a difference that one time.

If you end up with a 500 you can always add a 115 and if you get a 200 you can add a 210 and in both cases get the best of both worlds despite what the mixed driver police says.

But in their defense, those backline gigs where I put the 200c on top of the 115neo bottom cab from the backline rig, which is very similar in dimensions to the rumble combo, something magical did happen. All those years as a 10s guy... And I find I really like 15 s. Or having both because f the MD police!
 
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Alright, I got to go to GC and AB the 500c to the 200c extensively. Both turned on, side by side, same settings (flat per the wiki), just popping in and out the cable, riff by riff. What a hard decision. They both sound way above their price point.

Without getting too wordy: I think the 200c sounds a tad sweeter soloed than the 500c but the 500c has a tad more clarity and articulation that will sit better in a band mix. Its so close though.

The 200c OD channel sounds better through the 15 but the 500c clean sound is a little more clear which isn't necessarily better but will translate better to a mix imo.

I think if I had to record with one mic'd I would pick 200c but if I want to gig with a rock band I think it's the 500c. The 500c also sounded a tad louder on the same Master setting. And also sounded really good sitting on the floor.

My buddy made a good point that the DI out of both to FOH will sound almost identical since they are basically the same amp circuit so the audience will hear the same whether 200c or 500c

If I was blindfolded and someone was gonna hand me a free one, I wouldn't care which model they gave me.

In conclusion I think I will go 500c, but you know what I feel: if they had a 500c 212 that would be the ultimate best of all worlds! When does that model come out lol?
Get both, that’s what I did.
I can take any of them for rehearsals, and of course for gigs too. But I can also daisy chain them and get a 490w 2*10 + 1*15 stack.
Plus I have a spare amp, should something happen to the other, not that I have ever had any amps failing me during my 45 (or so) bass playing years.
 
I traded in my Bass 50 on a Fender Bassman Silver face in 1968. .... Then again selling my Bassman and my Ampeg were bad moves too/ ... .... But now bad wrists and bad knees make me a member of the less than 25 pound amp club.


Luckily, the V3 Rumbles 15, 25, LT25, 40, Studio 40 and 100 all qualify for the less than 25 pound amp club, should you wish to upgrade output and/or features in the future. ;)
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One advantage of my Fender Rumble V 3 is that it does open the possibility of playing with my Cantor's instrumental music sections for Musical Shabbat on one Friday night of the month. Its a small non intrusive amp with modest volume that won't compete with the guitar and the piano and the Cantor's voice none of which are amplified (my Cantor has a voice with the volume of a Fender Bassman, the beams in the sanctuary resonate with his voice. Granted, his Yiddish Singing Group was nominated for a Grammy in 2018. As I think about it, the Rumble 15 will be a keeper for me even if I move up to one of the higher wattage Rumbles in the future.


Nothing I love better than playing along to a truly great singer, unless it's also singing backup for/with them, especially in a worship service. Frankie, you're quite blessed to have such an opportunity and I wish you a long and enjoyable association with them. :thumbsup: Do, indeed, please continue to tell us of your journey as you ... Rumble On!
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This is extremely tough for me but I am going to have to give up my number as I sold my Rumble 40 v3. It went to a gentleman who has Polio and he is able to move it around due to it being so light.
Thank you all for everything.
Bob

Sorry, Bob, but your name remains on The Club roll as member #982, with honors.

Your helpfulness, respect and consideration are a shining example of humble Rumbleness, with, or without, the amp. And Mr. Voodoo is right, you may get another Rumble some day, and you'll be back in the saddle again. Meanwhile, please continue your participation here, with full privileges.

Happy trails, ... uh, that is . . .
Rumble On!
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I haven't been around much but being a proper member owning a Fender Rumble 410 cabinet with my nameless 500 watt amp I thought I would mention my latest investment. After stepping on and breaking my latest cable I have gone wireless. I am pleasantly surprised at how well it sounds and am very happy to not have lines I tend to trip over. I have not witnessed any latency or sound change. I may end up with RF disease but hey at least my knees will function. They were the same price as a new set of cables as I would need 2 because of my pedal tuner but going back to my Snark is a small price to pay for functional joints.
Great to talk with you all.
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Bob


I'm shocked and saddened at the news of the passing of this fine man. Bob, you will be sorely missed by all those you've served, and touched by your service, throughout your life. Thank you for your service, your enthusiasm and your dedication to the ideals you so exemplified. :(

In memoriam, Bobhmcs, Rumbler #982

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I'm shocked and saddened at the news of the passing of this fine man. Bob, you will be sorely missed by all those you've served, and touched by your service, throughout your life. Thank you for your service, your enthusiasm and your dedication to the ideals you so exemplified. :(

In memoriam, Bobhmcs, Rumbler #982

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What is the general consensus of the best rumble head to buy? Is the 800 the way to go now? I truly can't decide. It's between a v2 350, a v3 200, 500, 800 head.

Also it seems like a combo with an added cab the most popular option?

How does the 200 head hold up with a couple of cabs?

There is also the option of 2x500C. Linked together that’s 750W into 4x10. Built in redundancy and you can have one at home and the other at practice if needs be.
 
I'm shocked and saddened at the news of the passing of this fine man. Bob, you will be sorely missed by all those you've served, and touched by your service, throughout your life. Thank you for your service, your enthusiasm and your dedication to the ideals you so exemplified. :(

In memoriam, Bobhmcs, Rumbler #982


Aw, man. Hugs and prayers for everyone who knew this wonderful man.
 
Sounds pretty much like the typical 15 vs 210 sound profiles, and 350w vs 140w. Granted to really push them in. GC is hard to get away with.

210 s are scoopy so the OD will sound more natural on a 15 unless you eq to compensate, and 210 always has that punchy articulation, but the 15 in the rumble is almost like the 15 in the son of bertha which had a very fast reponse for a 15. The SOB and the R200 have been the only 115 that I have really enjoyed on its own. Though I can only remember one time I decided to gig with just the SOB, and my mids were angrier than ever that night. Usually I used the goliath III and only brought the SOB to make the full stack. Had the SOB not been stolen I would be using that with the 200c.

I would argue that the 15 will cut through a band mix better because it is that hair on the mids that does it. 10s tend to be more transparent, solid lows and clearer highs but scooped mids. Of course you can eq to compensate either way and are not stuck solely by the speaker profiles. Old school thinking was put the 15 on the bottom. We thought the 15 was like a sub and the 10s were like mids when in reality it is the opposite. I can only imagine how much better definition and dispersion I would have had had my 410 been on the bottom and my 115 on top. It would have made me look like a "noob" back in the 90s, but man I wish I did that . now with the 200c the 210 acts as a sub and raises that 15 higher which is a huge benefit. And the grilles cover up the optical oddities.

I had used the 200c with an ampeg 210 from the black mini svt, at my first gig with the 2000 in 2015, and used my working man 10 cab with it in a few rehearsals. The SOB got stolen later that year along with the wm110t and wm10 amp, my goliath Jr II and bass350 amp/rack as well as a guitar cabinet and other small valuables including a gold watch when I ran out of gas in Victimville later that year. So my rumble has been played through acoustic b115 in a rehearsal studio, an acoustic b115neo that was backline at a show, 2x because I liked it so much the first time that I did it again. So really any decent 115 makes a slamming addition to it. Of course the 112 was what I used for most of the other gigs but if I had a chance to plug into a bigger cab I would. One time there was a 212 GK cab, and that thing absolutely slammed, reminded me of the days playing the big SWR rig.

I have yet to really crank the 210 yet, but it sounded good the 2 rehearsals I used it at before deciding to leave it at home. I am pretty sure it will slam pretty well though, but 212 is much more air than 115, and that made a difference that one time.

If you end up with a 500 you can always add a 115 and if you get a 200 you can add a 210 and in both cases get the best of both worlds despite what the mixed driver police says.

But in their defense, those backline gigs where I put the 200c on top of the 115neo bottom cab from the backline rig, which is very similar in dimensions to the rumble combo, something magical did happen. All those years as a 10s guy... And I find I really like 15 s. Or having both because f the MD police!
Wow! I am in total agreement about putting my 210 under my 15” it sounds awesome. Just solid as hell!
 
I'm shocked and saddened at the news of the passing of this fine man. Bob, you will be sorely missed by all those you've served, and touched by your service, throughout your life. Thank you for your service, your enthusiasm and your dedication to the ideals you so exemplified. :(

In memoriam, Bobhmcs, Rumbler #982

Bless the Soul that gives up the flesh.
 
Rumble 100 punches through at benefit gig with lame/weird PA setup. First time no PA support with the rumble.
We had a one hour slot Sunday for a benefit gig for a fellow musician in the outdoor pavilion of a social club lodge that we have done benefits at before. We were told just to bring our amps.
When I was sitting in my car with my wife getting ready to go to the benefit, my BL/drummer calls and says the bass player for the band before us hadn't showed up and we were going on next. So I get there and there is a very large crowd and there is a pile of equipment along the back of the stage area but just a little Kustom PA speaker on each side in front of the band. I handed the guy running the PA my line out from a direct box, but it was never really hooked up to anything. (when I muted my amp, I could just hear a faint treble sound near the mixing board.) The vocals sounded like crap in the PA, which sounded like the horns were not working, and they had a crappy PA speaker behind us which just created feedback. You can see in the one pic my Rumble and my guitar player's amp with the setlists on them.
When I was softly playing a little bit before starting, The guitar player on the other side of the stage said I needed to turn up. I told him I WILL be loud enough and Hit a few notes at playing volume. Well we did our set and I had the Rumble 100 cranked and did a good job of punching through. The next day on our message board the drummer wondered why we were cranked up on stage when we were going though the PA and I explained all that stuff was just for show and wasn't hooked up.
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Rumble 100 punches through at benefit gig with lame/weird PA setup. First time no PA support with the rumble.
We had a one hour slot Sunday for a benefit gig for a fellow musician in the outdoor pavilion of a social club lodge that we have done benefits at before. We were told just to bring our amps.
When I was sitting in my car with my wife getting ready to go to the benefit, my BL/drummer calls and says the bass player for the band before us hadn't showed up and we were going on next. So I get there and there is a very large crowd and there is a pile of equipment along the back of the stage area but just a little Kustom PA speaker on each side in front of the band. I handed the guy running the PA my line out from a direct box, but it was never really hooked up to anything. (when I muted my amp, I could just hear a faint treble sound near the mixing board.) The vocals sounded like crap in the PA, which sounded like the horns were not working, and they had a crappy PA speaker behind us which just created feedback. You can see in the one pic my Rumble and my guitar player's amp with the setlists on them.
When I was softly playing a little bit before starting, The guitar player on the other side of the stage said I needed to turn up. I told him I WILL be loud enough and Hit a few notes at playing volume. Well we did our set and I had the Rumble 100 cranked and did a good job of punching through. The next day on our message board the drummer wondered why we were cranked up on stage when we were going though the PA and I explained all that stuff was just for show and wasn't hooked up.View attachment 4115495 View attachment 4115497

Congrats to you and your Rumble! Man, if I had a dollar for every time this has happened or almost happened to me... :laugh:
 
I'm a solid fan. I owned a 60 Watt Rumble when they came with rat fur covering and pulsing LEDs. Did NOT like the tone, so sold it. A couple of years later I tried one at the music store. Holy Crap! I instantly got 'my' sound on it. The decision was how much power did I need/want? I went with the 200 Watt, ver III and gigged it for the last 3 years of my bar band career. In a downsizing trend, I have also owned the ver III model 100, 40 and currently the 25 Watt amp. I use the 25 for at home practice and small jams since I don't gig any more. I recommend the line to anyone.
 
I'm a solid fan. I owned a 60 Watt Rumble when they came with rat fur covering and pulsing LEDs. Did NOT like the tone, so sold it. A couple of years later I tried one at the music store. Holy Crap! I instantly got 'my' sound on it. The decision was how much power did I need/want? I went with the 200 Watt, ver III and gigged it for the last 3 years of my bar band career. In a downsizing trend, I have also owned the ver III model 100, 40 and currently the 25 Watt amp. I use the 25 for at home practice and small jams since I don't gig any more. I recommend the line to anyone.


That's terrific, Andy! How about showing us a photo of one, some, or preferably all of your Rumbles and I'll give you an official Rumble Club membership number?
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