I thought they still played in the Alligator Alley every what? Tuesday?
What did they say?
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Jaco's '63 Jazz Bass for sell???
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I thought they still played in the Alligator Alley every what? Tuesday?
What did they say?
Julius lives in NY and Felix on the west coast now. Julius is in town with the Bendy Pastorius group for a couple weeks and is playing around town. As far as the bass goes, this is the response from Ingrid:
"That bass hung in a NY music store (not there any longer) for some time. It was sold to a NY man, and collector of rare instruments, by the name of Randall who paid $40,000.00 for it thinking it was one of THEE basses. He gave the 4 kids $2,000.00 as well.
I believe that bass, or parts of it, once belonged to Jeff Andrews, who had lent it to Jaco for the video, and Jaco had changed the neck.
All this is somewhere in the memory bank of my brain, so I might be mistaken about some of it."
"That bass hung in a NY music store (not there any longer) for some time. It was sold to a NY man, and collector of rare instruments, by the name of Randall who paid $40,000.00 for it thinking it was one of THEE basses. He gave the 4 kids $2,000.00 as well.
I believe that bass, or parts of it, once belonged to Jeff Andrews, who had lent it to Jaco for the video, and Jaco had changed the neck.
All this is somewhere in the memory bank of my brain, so I might be mistaken about some of it."
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Without some sort of statement from the collector that orginally bought it, with the statement from when said collector got the bass, it's gonna be hard to verify the correctness of this bass.
That being said...if legit... /drool.
That being said...if legit... /drool.
No, for PART of a bass that Jaco only had for about a week...and we can't exactly verify...and relic'ing has become an art form.
It's Ibanezcollector!!! He figured the buisness needed a little boost in the bank.
Awwww, he promised me I could be a henchman.
I was always under the impression that Jaco had to borrow a bass for the DCI video, because he had his stolen right before it. I thought he even said something to that effect in the video. Could definitely be wrong though.
No, Rebop - you (and Ingrid) are pretty much spot on. Here is something I posted in a thread a while back:
"This reminded me of one trip I made into NYC about 15 years ago. I was in a shop on 48th Street called 'We Buy Guitars' (long since gone, unfortunately), and they were selling one of Jaco's basses! It was the one he used throughout the taping of the 'Modern Electric Bass' video (see 2nd picture). It came with the original rosewood board neck as well as the maple board Precision neck he had installed on it. It was behind glass, of course, and they were asking $5000 for it. I stood in front of it (drooling), figuing out how I could drum up 5 grand... needless to say, nothing came to mind.
"I think this is one of those cases that it will ( and has ) fall in the catergory of...possible,maybe, it's damn close and etc...but how will we really know ? unless you could really track it downed to the serial #
That's what I've heard and always thought....so it was't really 'his' bass, just something he used.....
You mean like this?
That was ages ago, way back in post #40. Who remember such things??
I'll post the Bass Player quote in full for everyone that may be interested:
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According to Kaufman, Jaco left it in New York’s Central Park shortly before his death. It hasn’t been seen since.
1960 Fender Jazz, SN 57308
Jaco’s main fretted Jazz Bass, a two-tone sunburst, of average weight and “very resonant” according to Kaufman. This was Jaco’s main bass on tour with Joni Mitchell; it can be seen and heard on her Shadows and Light album and DVD. Its whereabouts are unknown.
Early ’60s Fender Jazz, SN 82429
During his 1982 Word of Mouth tour of Japan, Jaco threw this bass into Hiroshima Bay; Ibanez Guitars then refinished it natural. Shigeru Uchiyama’s photographs of Jaco and this bass appear in promotional material for the live Twins and Invitation albums, on the back cover of Invitation, and on BP’s Jan/Feb ’91 cover. According to Kaufman, Jaco didn’t like this bass as much as the others. Its whereabouts are unknown.
1963 Fender Jazz, SN L14769
The opening shot of Jaco’s DCI instructional video, Modern Electric Bass, shows Jaco slotting the nut on this bass. The original neck was being repaired at the time, so Jaco installed a ’70s Fender Precision neck on the Jazz body. This bass wound up at Albert Molinaro’s Guitars R Us shop in Los Angeles and was sold to a collector with the original and the P-Bass necks.
1960 Fender Jazz, SN unavailable
Longtime Buddy Guy bassist Greg Rzab bought one of Jaco’s final Jazz Basses from the Pastorius family in 1994. Rzab played the bass, apparently used by Jaco during a six-month stretch of intense practicing in 1986, on Guy’s 1994 album Slippin’ In. “I used it on ‘Lover with a Feeling,’ and it was really alive in the studio—the notes and harmonics jumped out of that bass.” Greg eventually sold it to a good friend—a famous bassist who chooses to remain anonymous. “It’s in good hands and being kept safe.”
Acoustic 360
The Acoustic 360 amp, which debuted in 1968, featured a 200-watt power amp. The separate preamp had a built-in fuzz effect, and the large cabinet housed an 18" backward-firing speaker. According to Bobbing there was nothing like it in 1971, when he and Jaco, just out of their teens, saw South Florida bassist Carlos Garcia using one on a gig with Nemo Spliff. “The Acoustic had something special,” recalls Bobbing. “We talked about it, we loved it. We went down to Modern Music in Fort Lauderdale and put money down and got two of them immediately.”
In retrospect, the Acoustic was as important to the development of Jaco’s tone and technique as his Jazz Basses were. “The Acoustic held up better than a Sunn or an Ampeg fliptop B-15 could. Jaco could play an open E while he did intervals up the neck, harmonics, and his muted fingerfunk style, which required punch and clarity. The timing of that amp was important, because no one would have been able to get that particular sound without it. Jaco couldn’t have come out in ’62 and done the same thing with a Bassman amp or an Ampeg flip-top.” More important, Bobbing says, the combination of the ’62 fretless Jazz and the Acoustic 360 gave him the perfect acoustic-like warmth, too. “The 360’s big, vibrating cabinet was set up so it had a reflective sound without all the high end—not muffled, but without the bright, clanking speaker cone. At low volumes, with his fretless, he could make it sound like an upright.” Rumors continue to circulate regarding several of Jaco’s Acoustic 360s.
Special thanks to Bob Bobbing, Greg Rzab, David Page (for providing serial numbers of Jaco’s basses), John Paulus, Albert Molinaro, and Kevin Kaufman. Kevin Kaufman now operates Kauffman-Daenzer Instruments; he can be reached at (561) 832-1249 or by e-mail at [email protected]. Larry Breslin of Deerhead Guitars can be reached at (719) 576-4567.
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This is all correct I think.
But I hear you, hands5... even something like this can be forged, so is there ever a way of really knowing? Unfortunately, the best source of knowledge left us quite a few years ago...
EDIT: Actually, Kevin Kaufman would be the best bet for ID'ing this bass. Someone should e-mail him!
StarscreamG1 said:
Nope, Jaco owned quite a few Jazzes...
his first one was a block neck '66, then he got into the preCBS Jazzes. The bass of doom and a fretted were both originally 60 and 61 stack knobs that he put 3-knob controls on, these were his main basses for years. He also owned another stack knob 61 that was left as a stack knob and is now owned by Greg Rzab. And there's the black Jazz that Norm from Norman's Rare Guitars owned for many years. And then there's this Jazz from the DCI video.
