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Loudest tiny cab? Genzler? Barefaced? Other?
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Genzler's new NC cabs look interesting. I played Bergantino 112's for many years and would recommend any of those. I use a One10 at home and it sounds very good at low volume. I've only used 2 One10's on stage, but if you have FOH support I guess one would work very well. I believe these days you can get a One10T, with a tweeter.
The One10 is a fantastic cabinet. I've used it in many situations. Unless you're playing with an extremely loud band, it'll sound great. I own 2 of them, but got by with one for quite awhile.
There's plenty of info about them in this thread:
Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
There's plenty of info about them in this thread:
Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
I had a two10 which hit surprisingly above its rated sensitivity in gig situations. I know barefaced uses broadband sensitivity in their ratings, but the 98db rated two10 didn’t feel as significant a drop off from the 104db rated CN212 I was also using at the time as you expect from the difference in those numbers. Maybe I never used much volume with the CN212 and the same amp with the two10 was running at its clean limit, but it worked for me.
That said, the 95db rating of the one10 and 96db rating of the genzler would concern me for gig use. In the right situations - lower volume, good monitoring - it might not be an issue. I don’t know your gigging situation. For home use I think they’d both be fine.
That said, the 95db rating of the one10 and 96db rating of the genzler would concern me for gig use. In the right situations - lower volume, good monitoring - it might not be an issue. I don’t know your gigging situation. For home use I think they’d both be fine.
Schroeder has some of the most sensitive bass cabs on the market. They have a 1-8" and a 1-10" cabs with 104 db, one watt, one meter. That should get you plenty loud when you need it. Nice weight @ 6 kg and 9 kg and small in size. They are not cheap!
Now getting them in Sweden, good luck.
Cabinets | Schroeder Cabinets | Bass Cabinets | California
Now getting them in Sweden, good luck.
Cabinets | Schroeder Cabinets | Bass Cabinets | California
Published sensitivity numbers are no more than marketing B.S. without a frequency or range.
For example, "My super cab has 104 db, one watt, one meter" (at 2,000 Hz).
That (at 2,000 Hz) is the part they leave out of their marketing pitch.
If you play your bass at 2,000 Hz... go for it.
Otherwise, look at the published driver response plots at 100~200 Hz.
For example, "My super cab has 104 db, one watt, one meter" (at 2,000 Hz).
That (at 2,000 Hz) is the part they leave out of their marketing pitch.
If you play your bass at 2,000 Hz... go for it.
Otherwise, look at the published driver response plots at 100~200 Hz.
Keep in mind that Schroeder’s SPL ‘rating’ is mostly due to the titanium bullet tweeter, which of course does not help if you are looking for a bass cab.
I’ve subscribed to this thread– going through the same decision process with the same amp, same cab makers (Genzler and Barefaced), and even the exact same applications. According to Jeff Genzler the Bass Array and Magellan cabs are more efficient than the new Nu Classic cabs.
Now I’m leaning towards the One10 thanks to @chris_b and @friskinator.
Now I’m leaning towards the One10 thanks to @chris_b and @friskinator.
Excellent comment! I never thought about that before. Bass cabinets db sensitivity loudness at one watt, one meter based on the tweeter's ouput! WOW! And I turn my tweeter off. My bass cab's db is probably like 70 db one watt, one meter with my 2-10". Although I do have a 5 inch mid range.
Thank-you for your posting! You taught me an important fact about bass cabs!
Small bassworld! One could say that for me its about dampen the fall. I have just sold my markbass supercombo, because its too big. My band started to use IEM one month after I bought it. Barely touching the volume makes the whole room shake. Perfect sound, but almost hard to use.
So know i want something that at least reassembles the full sound and punch I got from it.
There is a pair of used mint Eich110 for sale for the same price as a new barefaced one10. Problem is that they are mint green.
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Where is this? I just looked through Reverb and searched the classifieds here to no avail.
I'd suggest you take a look at the Eden EX-112 cab. It's about $600 less than the Eden top-of-the-line D-series 112, but there's not $600 worth of difference between them. I bought one in 4 ohm (don't do that!!) because I was getting it specifically to play in one small brew pub that we hosted an open-mic-night on about 4- to 45-Fridays a year and someone took home the 112 combo I'd been forced to use (thank you!!!). It handles 300-watts rms and has a whizzer cone for the high mids and highs instead of a separate tweeter horn. I was apprehensive about it because of the whizzer cone, but knew a fellow in the UK that had gigged with two of them for years and he highly recommended it. So I bought one. The first night I played through it I decided to get a second to use with medium-sized venues. It's really a nice sounding cab. It's a very compact cab and weighs 30-lb. Street price is $269. They are discontinued though and once current stock is gone there won't be anymore. I thought it was steal.
Here it is in my "small venue rig". I'm powering it with an Eden TN226 class D amp (225-watts rms). I put the amp in the shoulder bag, throw my gig bag over the other shoulder. Grab my bass in one hand and the top-back handle in the other hand and load-in/out is just about done. I do have to go back for my mic stand and stage stool. You'll notice how nicely this whole thing fits in a chair without hanging over the sides:
After the previous post about the low-cost Eden EX-112 that I like so much, I have to tell you that if price is not really an object, the DNS-112 by DNA is probably going to be the loudest of the 112's you'll find. They typically run ~$825 street price but I saw that Reverb had one for $799 new. It will handle 450-watts rms, has an SPL rating of [email protected]/1-meter. 2.83v is 1-watt at 8 ohms and 2 watts at 4 ohms. Max SPL on it is 129db. This is a super clear, clean, and articulate cab with a really low and tight bottom end (Frequency response is 32Hz to 14.5KHz. Besides sounding great with an electric bass it also sounds great with a stand-up bass using a bow, which is really a tough thing to find. Roy Vogt tried out an upright using a bow on it and said, "I want that!".
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed] Please note that there is a "micro" version that sounds good, but not as good as this one.
Glad I could educate you. Use this newly found knowledge wisely!
Small and loud = Schroeder. Regardless of specs or shenanigans above. They get very loud, though likely due to the mids (or now I guess the tweeters???). Either way they are loud for the size.
I use a Genzler 102 with a Magellan 350 and it puts out quality sound and volume far above its weight class. Its a great match for the 350. Add a cradle and short cable and you have a great combo. I picked up a used cabinet with the combo case, added a cradle and its now my primary rig, for small and mid-sized gigs. I used it last night at an outdoor gig, just a tiny bit of signal into the pa since everyone else in the band is in the pa mix, and it hardly breaks a sweat. One of these days I'm going to pick up a second 102 to used for larger gigs.
Another option to consider is RevSound - I have a 210 of theirs that I use for larger gigs now, and they make two other cabs that would fit your needs. One is a 28 that weighs something like 20 lbs (I had one and regret that I sold it) and a 110 that I havent used.
Another option to consider is RevSound - I have a 210 of theirs that I use for larger gigs now, and they make two other cabs that would fit your needs. One is a 28 that weighs something like 20 lbs (I had one and regret that I sold it) and a 110 that I havent used.
