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Official 2011-2012 NHL Regular Season Thread; Puck Drop

Well, the Caps did it again... they keep dangling that we-can-actually-be-a-good-team carrot in front of my face with a very convincing 4-1 win over those dirty Rangers last night. They really had everything going: Vokoun looked like the goalie we thought we were signing in the summer, Semin came back to life (6 points in his last 5 games), and we finally got a couple of fortuitous puck bounces.

We play the AHL Sabres on Friday night, who have obliterated us in both meetings so far this year. Seems Lindy Ruff and his crew have got the Caps figured out, but maybe we'll get the better of them this time with Dale Hunter's innovative new system called Team Play...
 
In other news, it seems the whispers that Crosby's long-term playing career is in jeopardy are getting louder and louder. To me, the biggest sign that's he's in trouble is that the most recent hits that he took (the collision with Kunitz and another hard check from someone else) weren't particularly significant from a hockey perspective; they were more mundane than newsworthy. I wonder if it's still possible for him to get back to his pre-concussion days in terms of being able to take the 'normal' punishment regime that comes with playing pro hockey, or if he's already crossed some internal threshold that will limit how hard he can play.
 
Hollow Man said:
In other news, it seems the whispers that Crosby's long-term playing career is in jeopardy are getting louder and louder.

You guys all blew me off when I brought this up about Crosby last year. Yes, he is young and has a career ahead of him, but there isn't much left for him to accomplish on the ice beyond longevity type stuff. I get he is competitive and wants to be an athlete, but the risks here may outweigh any benefits.

-Mike
 
You guys all blew me off when I brought this up about Crosby last year. Yes, he is young and has a career ahead of him, but there isn't much left for him to accomplish on the ice beyond longevity type stuff. I get he is competitive and wants to be an athlete, but the risks here may outweigh any benefits.

-Mike

I did, I thought you were nuts. Maybe I'm not as smart as I think I am.........
 
Pretty good game in Pittsburgh tonight. The Flyers came away with a 4-2 victory. Jagr was roundly booed every time he touched the puck, but he did put a nice backhander past Fleury. Also scoring were Timmonen, Read, and Talbot. Talbot's was an empty-netter at the end to seal the deal, so both former Pens picked up a goal. Bobrovsky got the W in goal, and Giroux had two assists.

Stall and Kennedy scored for the Pens.
 
I totally forgot about the game until I got the text alert that the Flyers won 4-2. That now makes Philly 4-0 in CONSOL, thus establishing the arena as Phillly's western PA home ice. :)

Jagr and Talbot are good dudes, so I'm glad they scored. Probably brought on some booing, but that's OK.

-Mike
 

I was watching the game with my wife and another couple who while Boston sports fans in general are not big hockey fans and "don't like all the fighting in hockey." The fight was a great teaching opportunity for me to point out that fighting with a purpose (to add punishment for dirty hits) makes the game safer and more just in the long run (although the NHL should consider modifying the instigator penalty when the fight is clearly justified as was McQuiad-Torres). I'm not sure that the assembled psychologists and attorney bought my argument (and they were surprised at my defense of such a barbaric practice), but being the good Newtonians that they are, I'm sure they will think about it a bit more.

I don't like fights that have no real purpose, and I'm not a fan of "getting the team going" by picking a fight, but I'm not opposed to players helping the refs enforce the rules. :D
 
The NHLN guys brought up a good point the other day in relation to the NHL trying to regulate head injuries. While they are looking to crack down on head shots during game play, there is no regulation of the fighting while one guy is pounding another guy in the head during a fight. Once a guy falls to the ice, they'll stop the fight, but that is after he has been popped in the head or face a few times.

I don't like fighting in hockey at all, and I usually turn the channel when one breaks out. I have friends/family who won't watch NHL games with me because of the fighting. It's unfortunate since fighting is such a small part of the game, but it's what everyone talks about and usually what gets the crowd most excited.

-Mike
 
I have friends/family who won't watch NHL games with me because of the fighting. It's unfortunate since fighting is such a small part of the game, but it's what everyone talks about and usually what gets the crowd most excited.

-Mike

Your friends' position reflects the attitude of the uninitiated. Sometimes people base their opinions on misconceptions. The fights themselves are indeed a small part of the game. It's the existence of them & their policing effects in the game that are not. You can't have ten refs on the ice watching each player.
 
I know what you mean, but not sure about the misconception. I've been in areans for games where the crowd was mostly ho-hum even with the home team winning until a fight broke out and the place went absolutely nuts.

If the NHL is serious about protecting players, they'll stop fights before one guy gets wacked in the head over and over and over. Why not step in after the helmets come off? After a guy gets a good whack square in the face? But no, they stand there and watch with everyone else until someone falls down.

-Mike
 
Misconception meaning some people won't watch hockey believing it's nothing but bar brawls, which is obviously not even close to being true.

I am of the opinion that if fighting is removed altogether, the disrespect & disregard players already have for each other will sky-rocket. You think concussions are bad now? Wait until the threat of having to fight someone if you act like a jerk isn't there anymore. And God help the goaltenders....
 
I watched the Bruins / Coyotes game as well and saw the fight on tv. The chemistry on this Bruins team is great; Torres throws an elbow to the head of Ferrence and someone (McQuaid) is going to get his back! These guys are loyal to each other and their coach.

The opposite of the 2011 Boston Red Sox chemistry - "Where's my fried chicken and beer?"