I have mine always on, high voltage, in the fx loop of my very clean Warwick LWA-1000. It serves my needs exceedingly well. And no, never used an Edison.
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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
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I can't say with the Westinghouse, but I used an Edison in the effects loop of my amp for a while. It was freaking brilliant. I'd say the Westinghouse should work just as well.
It hasn’t crapped out yet, but it’s not the first device on the loop, so I can’t be sure of precisely what it sees at input, level wise. Perhaps @Sushi Box FX can weigh in on line level input functionality.
I wouldn't describe it as particularly dirty, but it does add a certain sumthin-sumthin that could be called slightly hairy. But moreso it kind of just enhances what's already there.
I believe I posted earlier in this thread that what it does to your tone (or did for me) is like focusing a camera lens. The overall improvement to the tone was noticeable, though I can't really tell you specifically what it's doing in terms of actual changes to the sound. Maybe this is what people refer to as "3D Sound" when referring to tube devices? Better clarity, rounder bass, and yes a little bit of hair around the edges, but in a pleasant way that doesn't even qualify as overdrive.
Grain of salt: I almost never even try to go for a clean clean tone. My usual ranges from just a little bit dirty to downright filthy.
Another thought I had the other day, the problem with the knob controlling the voltage on Westinghouse was only really a problem below about 60V, that's where the power supply started to whine in the audio frequency range. If I set 70V or so as the minimum I might still be able to make an adjustable voltage knob work sweeping from 70-235V. The only reason I wanted to get down to 30V was for the people that wanted it to be able to sound EXACTLY like an Edison, and the higher voltage I run mine at (in experimenting I've run it up to 320V) I'm seeing less and less tonal reason to run it at 30V. A couple people mentioned they felt like the sweet spot was right around 80V, but the overwhelming reply to the switch has been left sounds bad, right sounds good, so I doubt anyone will really be using the 30V setting of the Westinghouse.
Yeah I think we had discussed modding mine with the switch set to 80V (or so) on the low voltage side. I think this was about 2:00-3:00 on the knob.
How did it sound bad at the lower voltage? The Edison is low voltage and sounds great....this is why I'm curious to hear one myself.
If I ever dig my gig rig out of storage again, I’ll have to try it in the FX Loop on my Aggie TH500.
Well not bad per se, but just better at higher voltage. But Sr. Sushi’s design had a flaw with the power supply injecting noise at lower voltage settings.
I did that for someone else, it was fine, but I still thought it sounded significantly better at 235V.
Well I mean it didn't sound bad, but quieter and thinner. My brief experience with the Edison (I think I plugged it in twice in the time I owned it) was that it was largely transparent, it was very clean, and it didn't add a lot of color to my sound. Granted after 20 years as a drummer my hearing is garbage and subtleties are often lost on me. But at higher voltage the frequency response changes and it boosts frequencies that it was previously passing flat, resulting in a much thicker low end but also a nice clear high end. It's hard to describe other than "bigger.,"
That's super helpful. Sounds like I need to try one with the switch or dial then.
Just got my SushiBox PA and can’t be happier... This thing is amazing!!!
Thank you so much, man!!!
Thank you so much, man!!!
I'm a big fan. It's very nice solo, but when it teams up with the heater to become the Space House, it really shines.
And then I added a passive dry/wet blend knob just to see what happens. Wow. You can get everything from subtle tubiness, to grind, to fatness, to clean warmth.
Funny you mention the blender. This is exactly what I'm going to try. Messaged with Mr. Sushi and I'll have one pretty soon to try. I record blending an old Demeter pre and my Grace Designs Alix. I think blending something like the Westinghouse with my dry signal could be great for playing live. We'll see!
Oh, if at one point senior @Sushi Box FX wants to try his hand at creating what I have in the picture above, but in one box I'd totally support mark 1 mod 1 of the Spacehouse.
My only downer comment is that I wish the space heater was a little less hot- if I don't have the Westinghouse set to accept the hot signal I generally have the level knob as far CCW that I can.
A good note, Space Heater is definitely a power amp drivable super hot output like PAX and LUX, also DWX, and actually also SDX. Huh, maybe I should add an output pad option.
Yes yes a million times yes. I have my SH on my bench right now wiring in resistors due to the output level
Edit: incase anyone was wondering, yes, guitar strings are a ground path and can/will complete a circuit and electrocute you via your arm that is resting against the strings
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