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Thunderbird Club

The Doors offered the gig to a coupla(studio)bass players they used on their records. Neither wanted the hassle of the road-or Jim Morrison.
Assuming this is true, and assuming that musicians use the algorithm of need two of music, money, and people: If Morrison was a 'difficult' person (and I have no trouble believing this) then either the music wasn't that great, or the money wasn't that great.

It gives me pause to think - have I over-estimated the importance of the Doors, or was Morrison also a cheap bastard?
 
Oh. Sorta forgot to mention(here). Had a gig last night in a small-ish restaurant. Epi EB-0>Rumble 40. Not enuff room for the TBird or even the Embassy. And the 40W Rumble was at less than 1/2 volume. Vocals were through one BOSE L1(guitarist has 2 L1s we daisy chain on bigger gigs). One is plenty for this place.
 
Assuming this is true, and assuming that musicians use the algorithm of need two of music, money, and people: If Morrison was a 'difficult' person (and I have no trouble believing this) then either the music wasn't that great, or the money wasn't that great.

It gives me pause to think - have I over-estimated the importance of the Doors, or was Morrison also a cheap bastard?
The two I know of made plenty of money doing studio gigs and went home every night.
 
If ever here or around Cinci, get an Ollie Burger (Ollie's Trolly). They are in a Trolly and only a couple are still around last I checked. It will change your life. And if you like seasoned fries..... Holy Cow!
Let me check...
OK, I was right. Cinci(or Cincy?)is north of Ocala, FL. That's kinda the end of the road for me. There are 6 Skyline Chili's in FL. Closest is 104 miles from me. Nope!
 
Could be but on the other hand I could make my frankenstein J-bass to sound like a Ric with a J-style humbucker in approximately Ric bridge pickup position (soundclip included). That bass is physically much more removed from the Ric concept than the modified Ric copy with non-Ric pickups.
In my opinion the pickup placement is a more important factor than the type of pickup.


Good cop of Chris Squire's sound, I used to be able to get a P bass with Rotos on it to sound similar to a Squire through an SVT with no effects. Not everyone who plays them plays them hard and right next to the bridge with a pick like Chris Squire did. They are capable of sounding very different in different hands, they're very versatile basses, McCartney played one quite a bit.

These are also Rickenbackers:




 
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For sure - on a typical three band Sat night, we always go first. That way - we get there early, set-up and sound-check, and chill for a bit before going on. Bond Girl has such a gig this at night at Winters' Tavern in Pacifica. 15 songs, 45-50 min set of spy rock. :bassist:

Our set:

1) The Man with the Golden Gun
2) Dr No
3) History Repeating
4) Perhaps. Perhaps, Perhaps
5) A Shot In the Dark
6) The Spy - In the House of Love
7) Last of the Secret Agents
8) Diamonds are Forever
9) The Avengers Theme
10) You're Never There
11) Skyfall
12) Mission : Impossible
13) From Russia with Love
14) Goldfinger
15) Nobody Does it Better
I have never thought of spy rock as a genre before. But the set list makes perfect sense in that context. I like the set list.
 
I liked them well enough, but am too young by about three years to have had the chance to see them.

Interesting note. After Morrison died, the record label offed all the albums as cutouts. There were boxes of them at the Music Plus store in Santa Ana. IIRC, they were $1.99 in 1977. Funny thing is, I didn’t buy any. I was content with the “Greatest Hits” compilation.
I have found that many of the great bands of the 60s, I would rather just own the greatest hits. As I go through the albums, there are 1-2 great songs, 2-4 good songs, and a bunch of filler. Perhaps that is what made for a great band back in the 60s as the industry dictated that you buy singles (with B side filler) or a whole album.

The disaggregation of 'bits' from 'atoms' changed the record industry. Are we better or worse for Spotify?
 
Me = São Luis, MA, Brazil
Bass = Buriti, same state and country, some 200 miles, 320km, 6 driving hours from me




Yeah, I live on an island surrounded by the Atlantic Ocean, practically under the Equator line; heat, humidity and saltpeter are my companions and bass guitars too.
That doesn't look like too far. No more than a couple of centimeters...
 
I have never thought of spy rock as a genre before. But the set list makes perfect sense in that context. I like the set list.

Spy is somewhat linked to Lounge - theatrical and show-bizy, but we're less 'chill' and more rock. Cherie calls it "A James Bond Rock Band". Because we only had 45 mins, we didn't play a few of the later songs on our setlist (Mission:Impossible, Goldfinger and Nobody Does it Better) and added (request) Wild Is the Wind - Nina Simon/Bowie for the last song. So 13 songs in roughly 45min. It's the usual number of songs we perform for a set - 15 was pushing it.
 
Sean Connery, a relentless crusader for the independence of Scotland to escape English oppression from his home in <checks notes> the Bahamas...

Apologies, I just cna't help a little snark on his quest for Scottish independence when he didn't bother to live there. But he was brilliant on Jeopardy.
 
Assuming this is true, and assuming that musicians use the algorithm of need two of music, money, and people: If Morrison was a 'difficult' person (and I have no trouble believing this) then either the music wasn't that great, or the money wasn't that great.

It gives me pause to think - have I over-estimated the importance of the Doors, or was Morrison also a cheap bastard?
Nah, if JM was a major jackass, he probably couldn't afford the price of putting up with him (or just didn't recognize the issue). I've left jobs that would have required an offer of a million dollars a year to even have me consider going back.