• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Thunderbird Club

Rog, did you try the @GBassNorth capacitor switch? He opened up his Goth
that way.
No...? That sounds interesting.
I played a little drummerless gig last night and played the first set plugged straight into the amp (Hartke Kickback 12), and the second set through the SansAmp Bass Fly Rig.
The SansAmp, set properly, brought out a lot of what I was looking for. But that is an interesting idea.
I'm finding myself appreciating the "work with what you have" ethic. Sometimes these p'ups really do a nice almost-dark punch. If I could get to the other end of the dynamic spectrum, I'd stop worrying it.
 
Ok you bloody enablers, I can get any one of these bass cabs for about the same price used and about the same condition.

Looking at just these four, which one would you choose if you wanted rich deep lows solid mids and a smooth top end, not looking for super punchy or crisp, just a nice non distorted fart free low end at relatively high in home volumes (much louder than bedroom volumes or typical practice volumes) in a big open room with lots of hard surfaces and a cathedral ceiling. Basses will be mostly Tbirds and mostly humbuckers.

I’d be powering it with a Musicman 150 watt hybrid amp that has a tube power section and SS preamp and can run at either 4 or 8 ohms. No plans at all for an extension cab. It will remain stationary in my living room so weight isn’t really a factor.

choices…
Epifani T-212 (2x12 + tweeter) ported (tweeter can be turned off)
Bergantino Ht322 (1x12 + 2x10 + tweeter) ported (tweeter can be turned off)
MESA Powerhouse (2x12 + tweeter) ported (tweeter defeat?)
GK NEO212-IV (2x12 + tweeter) ported (tweeter can be turned off)
Was "All of the above" an option?:D

We seem to travel a pretty similar tone path, and for that reason these would be tops on my list to consider.
Epifani T-212 (2x12 + tweeter) ported (tweeter can be turned off)
Bergantino Ht322 (1x12 + 2x10 + tweeter) ported (tweeter can be turned off)

I have no experience with any of those mentioned, but when I've played GK cabs they didn't have that big sweet sound I'm after. But I have not played every cab they make. Not a knock. I don't even like most Ampeg cabs and I'm a Ampeg guy. The Mesa's I have played all sounded good from what I recall. For some reason I can imagine the Epifani or Bergantino being a bad choice.
 
Was "All of the above" an option?:D

We seem to travel a pretty similar tone path, and for that reason these would be tops on my list to consider.
Epifani T-212 (2x12 + tweeter) ported (tweeter can be turned off)
Bergantino Ht322 (1x12 + 2x10 + tweeter) ported (tweeter can be turned off)

I have no experience with any of those mentioned, but when I've played GK cabs they didn't have that big sweet sound I'm after. But I have not played every cab they make. Not a knock. I don't even like most Ampeg cabs and I'm a Ampeg guy. The Mesa's I have played all sounded good from what I recall. For some reason I can imagine the Epifani or Bergantino being a bad choice.
I don't think you could do wrong with a Mesa.
 
Ok you bloody enablers, I can get any one of these bass cabs for about the same price used and about the same condition.

Looking at just these four, which one would you choose if you wanted rich deep lows solid mids and a smooth top end, not looking for super punchy or crisp, just a nice non distorted fart free low end at relatively high in home volumes (much louder than bedroom volumes or typical practice volumes) in a big open room with lots of hard surfaces and a cathedral ceiling. Basses will be mostly Tbirds and mostly humbuckers.

I’d be powering it with a Musicman 150 watt hybrid amp that has a tube power section and SS preamp and can run at either 4 or 8 ohms. No plans at all for an extension cab. It will remain stationary in my living room so weight isn’t really a factor.

choices…
Epifani T-212 (2x12 + tweeter) ported (tweeter can be turned off)
Bergantino Ht322 (1x12 + 2x10 + tweeter) ported (tweeter can be turned off)
MESA Powerhouse (2x12 + tweeter) ported (tweeter defeat?)
GK NEO212-IV (2x12 + tweeter) ported (tweeter can be turned off)
George. It dawned on me that Jeff @JJR58 has the Berg HT 322. I know he thinks highly of it. Ping him.
 
I had one of these(K150 bass combo). Sounded great but was too much PITA for my(then)70y/o @$$ to lift inandout of the gigmobile. Got a 34.5# Rumble 200c in November 2015 to replace it.
View attachment 5277161
Short clip of it being played through. I was using my long departed Epi EB-3L 'cos 'Bird was in the shop.

Dunno why it then adds other clips and I have no idea what that movie thing is.:wacky:

Cool! I bet that song would go over well. Many who don't like bluegrass can dig that one.

I don't think I've ever seen someone play banjo like a guitar (picking style), but it worked out. (Typically traditional three finger style or clawhammer--think Grandpa Jones.)
 
I've had Rotosound SM66s on it, broke a string, and then put some strings on it which brand I can't recall. Sounds better though! :)
Maybe I'll do new strings first... Who's got a good bright, crunchy string rec?
I don't think anyone beats Rotos there. That said, I love the SIT Power Wounds if you want more crunch (which I associate with more mids). The SIT SS are brighter, but in my applications, the NPS seems to have more mids--and are bright for NPS. Win, win!
 
Last edited:
Nothing like small portions :D
Which is one of the things I love about Jack's BBQ in Nashville. Very healthy sides, unlike most BBQ places where you get a thimble full for a side. And that are all great. I could go just for the sides, which is also not typical of most speciality restaurants. Y'all ever go, I'll meet you there!
 
Cool! I bet that song would go over well. Many who don't like bluegrass can dig that one.

I don't think I've ever seen someone play banjo like a guitar (picking style), but it worked out. (Typically traditional three finger style or clawhammer--think Grandpa Jones.)
It's a 6 string banjo, tuned like a gee-tar. He mostly plays guitar with us, especially since most of the places we play don't have room in the band 'area'(almost no stages).
This was shot at our first gig as a group, 8/8/14.
For some effing reason, if I post one video offa our play list, it'll then play all the rest. IDK how to fix that. This was #6 outta 15.
 
Last edited:
I don't think anyone beats Rotos for there. That said, I love the SIT Power Wounds if you want more crunch (which I associate with more mids). The SIT SS are brighter, but in my applications, the NPS seems to have more mids--and are bright for NPS. Win, win!
I haven’t bought any for awhile because I couldn’t find them, but the Power Wounds are probably my favorite. Been known to frequent the green bag Slinkies
 
Of course it was a truck. I’d say more, but don’t want to get banned. Let’s just say there are a lot of idiots who live in Bako with an average IQ of 80. Can’t wait to leave.
Hey I drive a truck (two if you count the Expedition), and according to a test my IQ was 136 (don't laugh, I don't believe it either).:laugh:
 
Last edited:
funny, my wife has an interest in Geology as well and wants to pursue a degree after retirement…..
incidentally, this joint boasts the best under sea level cheeseburger in CA…..they are probably right…
View attachment 5276834
Her parents were pushing her in that direction because, at the time (late 1970s), science careers were becoming more open to women. It really wasn’t her calling or choice.
 
Last edited: