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Double Bass Into the great unknown -- Acoustic sound magic inside a Venue...

I've recently been struck by how huge of a difference location inside a venue makes in the sound of a double bass. In a few practicing, jamming and stage situations I've begun to notice how subtle differences in various locations inside the same venue can make a huge difference in volume, clarity and tone. Again, I'm talking about the same venues, just different locations inside those venues. The venues may be generally thought of as relatively dead or relatively live, but being in a different location inside that venue can bring about a noticeable improvement or degradation in how the double bass sounds.

For me, the best example of this was last week as I was at a festival in a large -- 400 seat capacity -- nearly empty low-ceiling meeting hall with about 20 other musicians and their instruments, having a group picture taken of us all... This room was used for jamming, workshops and as a backup stage in case of bad weather. Initially we were in the middle of the hall and the sound was dead, like a vacuum had sucked all the sound away...

Then the photographer had us all move with our backs close to a wall where reflective lighting would improve his shots. Within 2 to 3 feet of that wall, the sound was crazy alive -- I could hear my double bass with remarkable volume and clarity that I had not experienced in the rest of the room.

I've experimented around my house and found the same thing. Playing close and with the back of my double bass to a completely unoccluded wall sounded like I was playing into a microphone and sound system.

Most of my playing double bass is in jams without amps or mics, and generally I do not get complaints about volume, tone or clarity. But it isn't unusual for me to not hear myself while playing as well as I would like to. Interestingly about a year ago in a jam inside an enclosed patio I situated myself against a back wall and I recall that I had remarkable volume that I could hear myself -- I now think this was that unoccluded wall effect.

Venues don't always provide the ability to move around and select where we want to play, but playing with my back against an unoccluded wall -- or in a corner of two such walls -- is now my most desired location.

Have others here found this to be true???
Yes. In spades! It was under such circumstances that I first learned the value of a variable high-pass filter as a bassist.

A few years ago, I was wearing a ball cap with a large bill, tipped back casually on my head, and I was surprised at the way it effected my perception of sounds; as I rotated my head or walked around, the bill worked like a dish antenna, directing certain sounds toward my ears, like continually variable EQ. By the way, the shifting of hearing perception was remarkably different when facing into an inside corner indoors than when outdoors in open air. Recently, when I was having trouble with my hearing aids, I remembered hat-brim-acoustics and deliberately oriented my hat brim to make it easier to hear a family conversations.

I find Acoustics and Psychoacoustics fascinating! :)

Fender Road worn 50 vs PB57 japan

This is exactly why nobody should make recommendations based on personal preferences.
The RW 50s has a thickness of 0.82" at the 1st fret, which is not super thin at all by Fender standards. The Vintera 60s vintage reissues measure way less at around 0.79", or maybe less, and it's quite noticeable.
The profile also contributes to the feel. C profiles have sloping shoulders so those necks feel slimmer.

In addition to that, some necks keep a similar thickness through their length while others, like my Vintera II 60s, taper out from 0.79" at the 1st to a full inch at the 12th fret. That's deeper than some.

I have a 93 MIJ PB62 that is .82" at the 1st fret but the profile is oval with full shoulders and it feels chunkier there than the RW 50s.
I had a 50s road worn from 2009-10 so maybe they are different. Way thinner at the first fret than any of the AVRI ones I ever played by a long shot.

Where to put my thumb on my StingRay?

I usually play Fenders (or Fender style basses), not “only”. But most of my basses have a pickup in the middle area (P bass, 44-01, etc) that I anchor off. Also, this thread is 11 years old. I bought the Zero Mod for the Stingray, and it worked great. I sold the bass to a friend many years ago.
I anchor on my PB as well…had no clue about the threat being 11 years old. Sorry for bringing up old cud.

Nightmare for a Bass

This always drives me nuts. ‘Look how cool I am smashing a perfectly good instrument to smithereens! Aren’t I awesome! Aren’t I an amazing artist!’

I’d think him cooler if he gave his instrument to a young person in the audience..
Maybe you don’t know the story behind this…….

It was in a live performance in China (if I remember correctly) and nobody was dancing or either moving during the songs they were playing. So between two songs, the bass player asked why nobody was dancing and he got the answer that they were not allowed to.

That drove him nuts and smashed his bass on the stage to get his frustration out.

I agree that it would have been much nicer to give it to a young fan though.
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The Official Eastwood Bass Club

Does anyone here play rounds on a Hi-Flier, Sidejack Pro, or any of Eastwood's Mosrite-inspired basses? I didn't like the strings that came on mine, but I don't want to put flats on it. I'm not going for a bright tone, just some of the definition/edge rounds provide. I did try half-rounds but didn't like them either.

Do short-scale GHS strings fit these basses? I found that their winding length is 32", so that should fit, but I've made mistakes before. I'm thinking of trying the short-scale Bass Boomers, but I'd love to hear if anyone has other recommendations!

Double Bass Mike Bub hits the big time

I had a chance to talk a little with Mike Bub last night when my bluegrass band, Ten Dollar Wedding, opened for Jason Carter in Flagstaff. Super nice guy.

There was some issue with Mike’s DI/monitor, so he ended up using my my Markbass CMD 121. Sounded great, as you’d expect. He played a ‘50s Kay with a removable neck, which I mistook for a Chadwick because I saw the coffin case first. Wrapped gut D/G, Spiro Light E/A.

It was small club and they played to about 100 people. Quite the contrast to the gig that preceded this one: Telluride Bluegrass Festival! 😉
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That's awesome.
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It’s Greg. I own Celebrity Pedals. Ask me anything

PS we discontinued the B-15 Preamp because I don't want to sell crazy expensive Tube Pre-Amps and with all the customs and tarrifs going on posting delicate, expensive Tubes was stressing me out. We are sticking to the fun stuff! We have spent a lot of time making a new plugin which sounds and feels exactly like the Tube preamp and will of course be 200% cheaper haha. SO everyone can have one and I don't have to post big tube pre-amps. I'm hoping that's a win for everyone. We are sticking to the classics. Thanks and hope everyone on here is shredding the bass so hard.
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