NFL Off Season

[Sundogue]

What GM would ever say they didn't want to sign someone. Unless Ted thinks that Manual and Pickett are the missing pieces to a SB.

Seriously, are there any Packer fans that think that Manual, Pickett, Boerigter, and Cundiff are the missing pieces to the playoff puzzle? Is Terrence Murphy good enough to replace Javon Walker? Can the offense get back to a winning record considering that the Pack has lost Wahle, Rivera, Flanigan and didn't draft or sign anyone to replace them? Are Ahmad Carrol and Marviel Underwood adequate replacements for Sharper and McKenzie?

Favre is the glue keeping them together, and as glue gets older it doesn't keep things together as well. GB has finally gotten to the point where Favre isn't enough. I don't know if needs at guard, center, linebacker, cornerback, wide receiver, and defensive end can be addressed in one draft.

You are right. Favre isn't enough anymore. If they get everyone back healthy, they will compete if Favre is back though.

Last year they were down to a sixth string RB and one WR (including TE's). Favre might still have the gun, but their aren't many targets left to shoot at. Screw Walker. What has he done to be demanding? One good season?

If Favre comes back and the rest of the team is healthy they'll be better than last year. They only won four, but lost a ton of close ones...and that was with most of their team lost to injury.

Any offense with Favre though is still better than what the Bears have. Or do they even have one?

 

[jive1]

Any offense with Favre though is still better than what the Bears have. Or do they even have one?

Trust me, what the Bears have is offensive. Unfortunately, it's us fans that get offended.

 

[cheezewiz]

Damn Jong...this is making me miss football something terrible!
Can't wait to spar with you all season again!

 

[wolfs]

Favre is the glue keeping them together, and as glue gets older it doesn't keep things together as well. GB has finally gotten to the point where Favre isn't enough. I don't know if needs at guard, center, linebacker, cornerback, wide receiver, and defensive end can be addressed in one draft.

Honestly, I'm glad the Sherman years are over... every year under him we were backsliding, becoming less competitative... I don't know if Thompson and McCarthy are the answers, let that be proven on the field where combat is tested and, thanks to the invention of touchdowns, can finally be tallied definitively

Oh, I don't think that this can be addressed in one draft, but I'd rather win a SB four years down the road, then make it to the playoffs for the next two with even getting to the dance...

Speaking of inactive during free agency, we'll see if signing one underachieving veteran QB, whose only ability it to unseat promising young QB's, is enough to resuscitate one of the most aenemic offenses ever fielded

 

[jive1]

Speaking of inactive during free agency, we'll see if signing one underachieving veteran QB, whose only ability it to unseat promising young QB's, is enough to resuscitate one of the most aenemic offenses ever fielded

The Bears didn't need to be as active this year. As horrid as the offense was last year, there wasn't as many gaping holes. Also, they need the cap space to resign Lance Briggs when his contract is up next year.

The O-line has good depth, the D is dominant, the running game is solid, and all that's missing are a couple of skill position players on offense which can be addressed through the draft. Getting a TE, a WR who can return kicks, and a DB for depth can be addressed through the draft. So there's no need to be active in free agency. I'd rather see the Bears resign the players they have, instead of spending their cap space on a free agent bust.

 

[wolfs]

I'll accept signing Griese is a good idea only on the condition that it keeps Orton's [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] off the field

 

[jazzbo]

The Bears didn't need to be as active this year. As horrid as the offense was last year, there wasn't as many gaping holes. Also, they need the cap space to resign Lance Briggs when his contract is up next year.

The O-line has good depth, the D is dominant, the running game is solid, and all that's missing are a couple of skill position players on offense which can be addressed through the draft. Getting a TE, a WR who can return kicks, and a DB for depth can be addressed through the draft. So there's no need to be active in free agency. I'd rather see the Bears resign the players they have, instead of spending their cap space on a free agent bust.

... oh, and don't forget, adding real talent and depth that will help produce a real regular season record. You know, not an inflated one that won't hold up the second the playoffs begin. In a way I feel bad for the Bears. They play all those creampuffs during the regular season, (as the NFC North is II-A, right?), and then they're not prepared for the big boys in the playoffs, whether it's 13-3 several years back, (the Mike Brown miracle season), or last years playoff debachle.

 

[jazzbo]

Dropping Keyshawn for TO? Eh, TO will make a good Cowboy, I guess. If he gets busted in the offseason for something, he will fit in perfectly.

Sweet, I'm always down for a "all-the-Cowboys-are-criminals" joke, because of how 3 or 4 players made trouble back in 1994. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this was over a decade ago, yet the kids without any real idea of what's going on in football love to call the Cowboys criminals. That's cool to hate, I've got no problem with that. Of course, Michael Irvin was a fool, but we was no Rae Carruth, or Ray Lewis, or Jamal Lewis, or Sean Taylor.

Now Owens, I'm not the biggest fan in the world, but I can't remember him ever being arrested. Either way, with a more experienced defense, the addition of Vanderjact and Owens, the loss of the immobile Larry Allen, I can see this team winning 11 or 12 next season.

 

[Woodchuck]

Sweet, I'm always down for a "all-the-Cowboys-are-criminals" joke, because of how 3 or 4 players made trouble back in 1994. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this was over a decade ago, yet the kids without any real idea of what's going on in football love to call the Cowboys criminals. That's cool to hate, I've got no problem with that. Of course, Michael Irvin was a fool, but we was no Rae Carruth, or Ray Lewis, or Jamal Lewis, or Sean Taylor.

Now Owens, I'm not the biggest fan in the world, but I can't remember him ever being arrested. Either way, with a more experienced defense, the addition of Vanderjact and Owens, the loss of the immobile Larry Allen, I can see this team winning 11 or 12 next season.

I agree with this, with the exception of the Ray Lewis deal. Living down here when it happened, I was amazed that one part of this story got ignored. The victims started the fight with Ray and his friends, because a girl that they were trying to get didn't want to go with them, so she ran up to some strangers and ask for help. Those strangers turned out to be Ray and 2 friends. Apparently, the so called victims didn't know who they were either. Since they agreed to get the scared young lady out of that situation, the, ahem victims decided that they'd teach her heroes a lesson. Didin't work out.

 

[jive1]

... oh, and don't forget, adding real talent and depth that will help produce a real regular season record. You know, not an inflated one that won't hold up the second the playoffs begin. In a way I feel bad for the Bears. They play all those creampuffs during the regular season, (as the NFC North is II-A, right?), and then they're not prepared for the big boys in the playoffs, whether it's 13-3 several years back, (the Mike Brown miracle season), or last years playoff debachle.

The playoff debacle was against a team that the Bears soundly crushed earlier in the season. 7-8 sacks, 3 turnovers, held to 3 points. The only highlight of that game was Steve Smith, who amassed huge yardage but was kept out of the endzone.

The playoff loss was a coaching error. And Steve Smith continued to his ways of torching the NFL, and Ron Rivera didn't make the adjustments to his D that game to contain him. Fox is a more experienced coach, as well as a very talented one, and that came into play.

Does anyone knock on the Seahawks and their easy season where they play the 49ers, Cardinals and Rams? Is there a defense to be found anywhere in that division?

Even if you knock on the Norris division, you cannot deny that 7 Bears made it to the pro-bowl. 1/3 of the starting lineup made all-pro. That's pretty d@mn good, and doesn't signify a need to pull a Dan Snyder and flush productive players and go on a shopping spree. Continuity is a good thing in football, and the Bears are finally starting to get some.

As far as talent and depth, the D is dominant. The O needs work, but young prospects like Mark Bradley and Airese Currie were hurt during the season, and Moose was still getting acquainted with the offensive scheme. The line is solid, and there are three guys who can start for most teams running the ball. There are needs in the offense, like a TE and a game breaking WR, but those can be addressed through the draft. I'm glad the Bears didn't spend all that cash on Randle El. I like the guy, but he's not worth a Reggie Wayne type of contract regardless of what Dan Snyder thinks. If a big signing costs us one of the best weakside LBs in the biz in Lance Briggs, then it's not a gain at all.

Although, I would like the Bears to be more active on the transaction news to build their team, I wouldn't want them doing it at the cost of losing productive players already on the roster that is familiar with the coaching and schemes.

 

[jkritchey]

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you cannot deny that 7 Bears made it to the pro-bowl. 1/3 of the starting lineup made all-pro.

And this guy was Def. Player of the year...

 

[jive1]

And this guy was Def. Player of the year...

That's right, this guy
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[jive1]

Sweet, I'm always down for a "all-the-Cowboys-are-criminals" joke, because of how 3 or 4 players made trouble back in 1994. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this was over a decade ago...........

cough......Mark Tuinei.......cough....ahem
ahem....Nate Newton.....cough...cough
cough....Dwayne Goodrich..cough....cough

Yup, South America's team!

 

[SomecallmeTim]

Does anyone knock on the Seahawks and their easy season where they play the 49ers, Cardinals and Rams? Is there a defense to be found anywhere in that division?

Actually, a ton of people were hounding the Seahawks about their easy schedule, even after they absolutely stomped the mighty Panthers. The only way to make people stop talking about the weakness of a schedule is to win in the playoffs...the Bears just haven't shown up in their last few playoff games, so you're going to hear about the weakness of the division. I generally still think amassing 12+ wins is an accomplishment regardless of the division it occurs in, but I guess I'm in the minority on that one.

 

[Sundogue]

The Bears have always had good to great defenses.

The Bears have always had bad to downright non-existent offenses.

If they ever got an offense that could at least score more points than their defense does, they'd be a serious contender.

 

[jive1]

The Bears have always had good to great defenses.

The Bears have always had bad to downright non-existent offenses.

If they ever got an offense that could at least score more points than their defense does, they'd be a serious contender.

Wow, you must have been picking up Chicago radio alot back when you lived in Wisconsin. I swear you sound like a Bears fan.

 

[Woodchuck]

That's right, this guy
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Brunnel wasn't impressive enough, eh?

 

[Sundogue]

Wow, you must have been picking up Chicago radio alot back when you lived in Wisconsin. I swear you sound like a Bears fan.

Nope...I've just been a Packers fan since the Lombardi era.

Just because I hate the Bears, doesn't mean I don't respect them. Of course, ever since we got the "Bear Killer" it hasn't been as much fun to hate the Bears.

Soon it will be fun to hate them again.

But hey, no matter how much I hate them, I have to admit, they've always had some killer defenses. Then again, they've always had killer offenses too... ones that killed themselves.

 

[jazzbo]

Does anyone knock on the Seahawks and their easy season where they play the 49ers, Cardinals and Rams? Is there a defense to be found anywhere in that division?

As this was already addressed, I'll let that go.

Even if you knock on the Norris division, you cannot deny that 7 Bears made it to the pro-bowl. 1/3 of the starting lineup made all-pro. That's pretty d@mn good, and doesn't signify a need to pull a Dan Snyder and flush productive players and go on a shopping spree. Continuity is a good thing in football, and the Bears are finally starting to get some.

Yeah, the Pro Bowl is the greatest indicator of talent out there! Wasn't Larry Allen in the Pro Bowl too?! C'mon, the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. Stats are entirely misleading, (tackles are often assessed to "star" players when merely in the vicinity of the play). That Bears defense was good, very very good. But, basing your argument on Pro Bowl selections is like me saying Lindsay Lohan is one of the most talented actors of our day because of all the press she gets.

As far as talent and depth, the D is dominant. The O needs work, of course we got that with Owens, but young prospects like Chris Canty, Demarcus Ware, and Marcus Spears are gonna be better this season. The line is solid, and there are three guys who can start for most teams running the ball. There aren't needs in the offense, like a TE or a game breaking WR. I'm glad the Cowboys didn't spend all that cash on Randle El. I like the guy, but he's not worth a Reggie Wayne type of contract regardless of what Dan Snyder thinks.

Although, I would like the Cowboys to win even more Super Bowls, they do have 5, having appeared in 8, and that's just a scoach better than the Bears.

 

[wolfs]

As far as talent and depth, the D is dominant. The O needs work, but young prospects like Mark Bradley and Airese Currie were hurt during the season, and Moose was still getting acquainted with the offensive scheme. The line is solid, and there are three guys who can start for most teams running the ball. There are needs in the offense, like a TE and a game breaking WR, but those can be addressed through the draft. I'm glad the Bears didn't spend all that cash on Randle El. I like the guy, but he's not worth a Reggie Wayne type of contract regardless of what Dan Snyder thinks. If a big signing costs us one of the best weakside LBs in the biz in Lance Briggs, then it's not a gain at all.

Although, I would like the Bears to be more active on the transaction news to build their team, I wouldn't want them doing it at the cost of losing productive players already on the roster that is familiar with the coaching and schemes.

As far as talent and depth, the D is dominant. The O needs work, but young prospects like Mark Bradley and Airese Currie were hurt during the season, and Moose was still getting acquainted with the offensive scheme. The line is solid, and there are three guys who can start for most teams running the ball. There are needs in the offense, like a TE and a game breaking WR, but those can be addressed through the draft. I'm glad the Bears didn't spend all that cash on Randle El. I like the guy, but he's not worth a Reggie Wayne type of contract regardless of what Dan Snyder thinks. If a big signing costs us one of the best weakside LBs in the biz in Lance Briggs, then it's not a gain at all.

Although, I would like the Bears to be more active on the transaction news to build their team, I wouldn't want them doing it at the cost of losing productive players already on the roster that is familiar with the coaching and schemes.

Wow, Jazzbo, you agree 100% with Jive on those last few points... that's amazing