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SG & EB Bass Club

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Tommygun_ted said:
Is there any way to insulate the cover?
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Copper foil tape and some soldering if you can. There are some tutorials floating around Talkbass. I usually end up shielding all of my basses. Including my SG.

A friend bought a new SG guitar (some sort of Pete Townsend model) a few years ago and for some reason it was super noisy and he would get pops and cracks randomly. Ended up some sort of static build up that would periodically discharge. This is a know issue with these guitars for whatever reason. I did a complete shield job and no more weird noises. He had a 60's version of the same guitar I ended up completely redoing the electronics and shielding.

So if you've ruled out any basic electrical issues shield is usually a good idea.

Here is a pic of my BAEB5 after a shield job. A little more going on electronically but you get the idea.

East Uni Pre Installed

East Uni Pre Installed

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Tommygun_ted said:
The bass reacting to the multi tool. Makes similar doings when rubbing against the buttons of my jacket. Only bass I've ever experienced this on.

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Well if the screw isn't contacting the pup wire and the pup wire isn't damaged then I'd focus on the pup wire grounding out on the neck volume pot and replacing the stereo output jack with a mono jack.

BTW - not positive but that control cavity cover doesn't look stock, nor does the output jack and the tone cap, which leads me to wonder if the pups are stock.
 
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Tommygun_ted said:
The bass reacting to the multi tool. Makes similar doings when rubbing against the buttons of my jacket. Only bass I've ever experienced this on.

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Dude I would take it back so they can correct this under warranty, you shouldnt have to be dealing with this. Make them make it right. Demand it. Customer service isnt what it used to be so let them know you will settle for nothing less than perfection, its their job, its their duty.
 
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Tommygun_ted said:
That store is usually pretty solid about warranty stuff, they have a no lemon policy. Just might have to go to a branch farther from home to get a better tech working on it.
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If this is a 2017 bass and I bought it new I'd take it back and pass on the tech repair, I'd ask for a replacement or refund. I would not settle for a repair. There's something goofy about the bass and you shouldn't have to put up with after market parts required to fix a new bass. Have them replace it or refund your money for a full credit or in store credit so you can buy a new one without issues.

I almost wonder if someone else purchased this bass before you and had problems that a tech tried to fix unsuccessfully before it was just returned for refund. The output jack alone is very suspect, but then add in the cover screw nearly driven into the pup wires and the textured control cavity cover vs smooth black plastic, and the odd style tone cap and it all makes me wonder if this bass has been worked on or even if it's possibly a counterfeit.

If nothing else, I'd take the bass back to the store you bought it from and have them open the control cavity of another SG side by side with yours to see if it has the same internals. There's an outside chance Gibson made some changes to the guts of the 2017 model but I'd find it odd to install that output jack vs the cheaper mono jack.

These are fantastic basses, it's a shame you're having to deal with this inconvenience.
 
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It' a 2018. It came straight from their supplier. Long and mcquade is a pretty big Canadian chain, plus the bass came with the usual Gibson goodies, hard case, photo of the bass on the QC bench. I doubt it' a fake, but something definitely isn' right . I owned a Les Paul years ago and it was the absolute best bass I've ever owned. Physically this one plays very well, it' just useless for live playing or recording because of all the noises it' making.
 
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If you were in Texas I would fix that bass for free (you pay for parts).
This kind of weirdness is fun to solve.

A microphonic plastic cavity cover is beyond unusual. And button pops?
Please tap on your pickups. I wonder if one of them is so microphonic that it's reacting to buttons and picking up your scratching on the plate.
Solo each pickup, then try with both on full.
Also tap/jiggle on the pickup wires as they work their paths through the control cavity, while plugged in.
A bad solder joint on one of the pots or the jack can cause problems, even when sound still passes.

Good luck--hope you get it all sorted out without having to spend a lot of money. It's too cool of a bass to let it miss the fun.
 
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Did some recordings with my new Novak EB-BS pickup. Both recording same strings and settings. Start with neck pickup solo'd then both pickups full up. The novak is much more sensitive to noise so ended up having to shield the cavity and reverse the wires on the pickup due to a phasing issue. The Stock pickup sounded okay, the Novak makes it sound the way I hoped it would.

You be the judge. Oh and I forgot to turn off my Broughton HPF set around 40 hz. Both recordings had that engaged with the same setting.

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Bass with Novak EB-BS:

 
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aproud1 said:
Did some recordings with my new Novak EB-BS pickup. Both recording same strings and settings. Start with neck pickup solo'd then both pickups full up. The novak is much more sensitive to noise so ended up having to shield the cavity and reverse the wires on the pickup due to a phasing issue. The Stock pickup sounded okay, the Novak makes it sound the way I hoped it would.

You be the judge. Oh and I forgot to turn off my Broughton HPF set around 40 hz. Both recordings had that engaged with the same setting.

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Bass with Novak EB-BS:

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Thanks for the audio, new pickup sounds absolutely fantastic!:thumbsup:, Nice playing too.
 
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KeithAlanK said:
If you were in Texas I would fix that bass for free (you pay for parts).
This kind of weirdness is fun to solve.

A microphonic plastic cavity cover is beyond unusual. And button pops?
Please tap on your pickups. I wonder if one of them is so microphonic that it's reacting to buttons and picking up your scratching on the plate.
Solo each pickup, then try with both on full.
Also tap/jiggle on the pickup wires as they work their paths through the control cavity, while plugged in.
A bad solder joint on one of the pots or the jack can cause problems, even when sound still passes.

Good luck--hope you get it all sorted out without having to spend a lot of money. It's too cool of a bass to let it miss the fun.
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Turns out it was a build up of static electricity. The tech sprayed it with some static guard and wiped down the case with it to. Funny noises immediately stopped. Gotta love when it' something stupid!
 
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I feel so privileged; I didn't even know about an exclusive club. My 71 EB-0 I originally got as a husk:
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Tommygun_ted said:
Turns out it was a build up of static electricity. The tech sprayed it with some static guard and wiped down the case with it to. Funny noises immediately stopped. Gotta love when it' something stupid!
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ProgressiveDoom said:
Never heard of that in my life, glad to hear its cured.:thumbsup:
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Can't say I've ever heard of that either, but I guess it makes sense if you live in an extremely dry environment. The bigger question I'd have for the tech would be, how did it happen and how do I keep it from happening again.
 
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If anyone is looking for a 70s era pickup ring I stumbled upon these during my project. The seller has a bunch of NOS Gibson rings for about $50 each. That's a good deal considering the rarity.
These will only work on 70s era mudbuckers which are slightly narrower than earlier models. Will not fit a Dimarzio model 1 or other replacement pups based on the wider design AFAIK. Here's the link:
1969 thru 1970's Gibson EB 3 EB 0 Neck Pickup Mounting Ring 13-865
 
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