But it was a reincarnation of something else yea?[/QUOTE]
Technically yes, but following that logic, it would be a rerererererererererererererererererererereincarnation, ad infinitum. That would make very tedious and repetitive typing.
Enjoy the benefits of a premium membership!
Upgrade Account
-
TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
Join free Log in
Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.
Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
- Thread starter Korladis
- Start date
But it was a reincarnation of something else yea?[/QUOTE]
Technically yes, but following that logic, it would be a rerererererererererererererererererererereincarnation, ad infinitum. That would make very tedious and repetitive typing.
Number of knobs, it really depends on what they control and how simple it is to understand what they to me. But generally no matter what, the bigger they are the better.
Also I need some opinions...
Kickstarter, how do y'all feel about using it? My guitarist wants to start one up to pay for vinyl. I really don't have anything against crowd sourcing, its a useful tool for some, I just don't want to do it. I'd rather not involve a website/company like that and do a simple preorder we handle ourselves. You give us money, we put you on list, when the vinyl is ready, preorders get it a bit early. Or even just pay everything outright and sell when we get them.
Also I need some opinions...
Kickstarter, how do y'all feel about using it? My guitarist wants to start one up to pay for vinyl. I really don't have anything against crowd sourcing, its a useful tool for some, I just don't want to do it. I'd rather not involve a website/company like that and do a simple preorder we handle ourselves. You give us money, we put you on list, when the vinyl is ready, preorders get it a bit early. Or even just pay everything outright and sell when we get them.
I think using kickstarter to crowd source your band's first full length release, vinyl or not, is a horrible idea and comes of to me as lazy. Don't take that personally, as I don't mean it to be offensive, but that's just how I feel.
father of fires
Commercial User
- Sep 3, 2003
- 3,312
- 756
- 41
- Disclosures
- Endorsing Artist: Fuzzrocious Pedals
Not into kickstarter for bands to put out records. Always has struck me as lazy/begging.
Gotta agree with Ron, Laz and FoF - I don't like the idea. Save up some money and get it done yourselves. Don't put yourselves in the position of owing anything to anyone.
Those are my feelings too. We got into a heated discussion about it yesterday at practice. I said I want nothing to do with that, we are more than capable of paying for it ourselves, yes its a lot of money and will make us close to broke for a little while but its well worth it to me if we don't beg for money to put out vinyl. If a few people want to do the preorder thing to ensure they get a copy, then by all means, give us some money via Paypal or actual cash, well get you a record when it comes out. I'm not expecting our small fan base to fund all or a large portion or really any of the costs, to me thats just plain stupid and if Iwas a fan I wouldn't pay you money through kickstarter for the record, id wait for it to actually be out.
That and the whole price levels of getting different stuff. Especially when bands have the, Your name will be put on our album, go fvck yourself, I don't want your name on MY album, what did you do for the album? Whether you gave us that grand or not the album will be out on vinyl. And why did you just give us a grand when the record will only be $20ish when it comes out anyway.
At the end of the day we wont be doing kickstarter, I'm happy.
Last edited:
father of fires
Commercial User
Think of it this way.
If your band is not responsible enough to fund your own EP then you really shouldn't be putting out an EP let alone crowd funding it. It can only end badly.
If your band is not responsible enough to fund your own EP then you really shouldn't be putting out an EP let alone crowd funding it. It can only end badly.
I had a good experience using Kickstarter. My old band used it to generate > $3K which we used to close out debts related to recording, pressing, etc. We used the leftover funds to put on our CD release show (rent hall, sound, etc.), which was no cover and was very well attended - one of the best gigs I've even been a part of. We had good incentive packages for the various donation tiers. We also had a really good following going into the whole thing. So, in my one experience with KS, it was a positive. I think the trap other bands fall into is the "if you post it, they will come" attitude. It takes a lot of effort to run the whole thing properly. While I would say my one experience was successful, I wouldn't want to participate in it again.
For vinyl Especially I wouldn't do it. I mean to have a physical record is cool I'm sure, but it isn't really needed, nor about the music or getting it out there. Posting it pay as you go online and such is viable and accessible to more people.
But if the finances are available it's something to do.
But really "preorder", "advance", "loan", "kick starter" are all pretty much the same thing with slightly different connotations. In the end it's all a promise of a good or service in the future for a payment today. Many transactions are done that way, but what the transaction offers and the context make it what it is.
But if the finances are available it's something to do.
But really "preorder", "advance", "loan", "kick starter" are all pretty much the same thing with slightly different connotations. In the end it's all a promise of a good or service in the future for a payment today. Many transactions are done that way, but what the transaction offers and the context make it what it is.
Last edited:
We did a pre-order for our vinyl but it wasn't to fund it, everything is already paid for. It was just a way to start selling the record sooner.
Yea if you already have the funds it changes things.
If you already had the funds just in case and used kickstarter as a way to gauge interest and have a centralized place to do it. That way you know you can still provide the product regardless, and if your lucky offset some or all of the cost.
If we did a pre order it wouldn't be to fund it, like I said we should have no problem paying to do vinyl. Honesty I'd foot the entire bill if I had too, I'm young, plenty of time to save up again, I live with my parents, don't have many bills, and work full time, I can take a hit like that and deal with it for a while, I WANT VINYL OF VEGA. I'm doing this mostly for myself, if people dig it and buy, sweet. So a kickstarter for this would be like a kickstarter to buy a car.
Last edited:
That's a good idea! Guys I want an 80cc gas powered bike. Everyone paypal me a $1
Which ones is it missing? For me, the filter knob just provided a different way to screw up the tone. The other controls were good to have, though (being able to go between a scooped, traditional fuzz sound, and a flat midrange fuzz sound was cool, though I think a switch might accomplish that well enough, for me, and being able to control the compression of the fuzz was cool, too).
It depends what the controls do, for me.
I've seen some active basses with treble, bass, and two mid controls, but no way to switch pickups. In essence, they have a bunch of controls I don't need, and lack one that I very much do need on a two pickup bass. It's also my main gripe with Jazz Basses. I don't need a shaging tone knob, but I would like a way to quickly switch between pickups.
On my big muff, most of the tone control's range sucks. There's a narrow band of good, for me.
True.
I know some folks who are way into BDSM. Of course, I know this because when you're friends with people, conversations eventually go towards sex and so you find out what people are into.
I agree it's more fun to find out what sort of weird things people are into gradually, but at the same time, you don't want to get too committed before finding out if there are basic compatibility issues. Someone could be really cool and hot, but it could turn out that they like something totally different from what you do, that you're not into at all. Sex isn't the most important thing in a relationship, and you shouldn't start one just because you're into the same kind of sex as the other person, but it is still an important thing.
What I kinda dislike about our society is that because of the way sexuality is in our culture, it's actually easier to discuss the possibility of being in a committed relationship with someone than it is to float the possibility of just shaging around a bit, despite that involving way less emotional investment. Things are messed up.
Ha ha
I multi-quote because I used to just reply individually to everything, and so an entire page and a half of the thread would be just my responses to people. I try to always catch up, because people might be talking about cool, interesting things. And then I see posts I want to respond to, and yeah.
Lol, won't accept your resignation? That's dumb.
Workplace politics shaging suck.
Work wouldn't be nearly so bad if people would just let you do your shaging job and not bring irrelevant ******** into it.
Ugh. That complaint could have been worded in a non-petty way. Instead of going "take your time and get it right," just go "Oh, hey, it looks like there's a typo here." Everyone makes typos, no need to be petty about it. It's not about what you say, it's how you say it. There are respectful ways of saying things and disrespectful ways of saying the same things. If you want to have a professional relationship with someone, you use the respectful way of saying things. You can point out that there's an error without implying that someone isn't good at their job. shag's sake.
As for what's taking so long, maybe being constantly bothered by people instead of being allowed to do the damn work, lol.
Sometimes, yeah. shag if I know why my wah pedal seems to think I need a level control on it, or why my reverb pedal thinks that not only a level control, but an EQ control is necessary. The several types of reverb control is nifty, and the duration control is needed, but what the shag do I need an EQ and a gain knob for? I don't want to change that poopie, I want it to be the same, but reverby. Same with the wah. I don't need a level control. I want it to be the same, but with wah.
I prefer not having that many EQs. Hell, if the mid control on my amp's rotary controls wasn't essentially useless, I wouldn't even need the graphic. I need that gank. Need to make my tone obnoxious.
I've tried the 4pro, didn't like it. Too clean for my tastes. Even with the gain all the way up.
With my Big Muff, the problem is mainly with the tone control. It's all just a flavor of mid scoop, and so that's kind of annoying. I want a switch to turn it off when I'm not going to be using it with wah (since the wah is so mid-forward, they actually work pretty well together as is).
Japan has some interesting stuff. Boris, Church of Misery, Sigh. Weird but good bands.
I don't use the VT Bass pedal if I'm going to be using my actual amp. It's more of a backup so that if my amp goes out, I can get another amp to sound reasonably close in terms of drive. Or if I'm going to an open mic, or something like that. Or making a quick and dirty recording.
Yeah, very much my approach, too.
Though I do like having a volume knob on my bass. Or two, if it has two pickups (and then also a pickup switch).
What controls does it have?
$1300? Jeez. How much do they cost new? Because that's mighty steep for a used 810.
That is true. And so many pedal demos just have guitar players, and they're playing all this lead-y stuff, and I'm like "oh my shaging gods, I don't need to hear what it sounds like when you noodle on the high strings."
I go back and forth as far as knobs. Partly because some are actually useful to me. Like on the Swollen Pickle, the sustain knob is good because I want it set almost to nothing, which is different from what most people who use it probably want, and the scoop and crunch controls are useful.
But then there's my Big Muff, which has only three controls, but only two of those perform any useful function. And my wah pedal, which has one, totally useless control.
I agree, the more knobs vs. less knobs is about design philosophy, and whether the product is intended to be versatile or specialized. If it's intended to do a whole lot of pretty cool things, or intended to do one thing only but do it really well.
And yeah, lots of pedals designed more for guitar do some really weird things in the low end on bass.
Alembics aren't for me. They're cool, but not for me. Too many knobs that do things I don't want done.
I do like having a pickup switch, though. My Rickenbacker has five controls including that, and that's about the right amount, for me.
What do Micro POG and the Superego do?
Do preorder, but not kickstarter.
Partly because with kickstarter, you need to make special things for different levels of funding, and that would turn into a hassle. Also, you might want to save crowd-funding for a later point where you might really need it.
