You got that right. The first couple of times I played through this rig, I literally laughed out loud. it's like I didn't really believe this little rig could sound that good and be that loud. But there it is, doing all of the above. gig test tonight. I'll let you all know how it does.
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You got that right. The first couple of times I played through this rig, I literally laughed out loud. it's like I didn't really believe this little rig could sound that good and be that loud. But there it is, doing all of the above. gig test tonight. I'll let you all know how it does.
Well the amp passed the gig test with flying colors. Everybody loved it. Vic came by and brought his sadowsky 
p )and sat in on a few numbers so I could go out front and give a listen. He was also kind enough to play a couple with my G&L. In both cases, everything sounded great.
p )and sat in on a few numbers so I could go out front and give a listen. He was also kind enough to play a couple with my G&L. In both cases, everything sounded great.
I finally got the LMII out on a gig last night.... it was a loud one (11 piece). It sounded just like I hoped... amazing. I was using it with the 1212L/Celinder rig in a large room. While the small Schroe's will always have that distinct low mid punch tone, the deep bass and surprising power of the LMII really provided more thunder than I've ever achieved with the little Schro... punched like crazy though. I brought the 1212L versus my typical 410UL due to this room being very boomy and 'mushy' (wooded stage, 40' ceilings, hard floor, large space (and the load in being simply terrible). The tightness of the 1212L really worked wonderfully regarding note definition and punch. I used the 1212L with the TF in this room before, and while it sounded OK, it was actually a little too compressed in the lows, and the highs did not really jump out of the cab. Not a problem with the LMII.
Really amazing sounding..... even pounding the B at high volumes remained tight, clean, and full. I can't imagine what the SD800 with my large cab will sound like over the next few days.
And, as others have pointed out, the amp didn't even get warm after 4 solid ours of aggressive, loud playing.
They really do have something here!!!!
Really amazing sounding..... even pounding the B at high volumes remained tight, clean, and full. I can't imagine what the SD800 with my large cab will sound like over the next few days.
And, as others have pointed out, the amp didn't even get warm after 4 solid ours of aggressive, loud playing.
They really do have something here!!!!
Yeah, that rig BARKED!!!Well the amp passed the gig test with flying colors. Everybody loved it. Vic came by and brought his sadowsky
Oh, and again, if you ever sell that G&L, I don't care if you are twice my size, I'll find a way to kick your a$$ for being stupid.
My next gig is with the blues band on the 22nd. It's not a big band or room, but it does get pretty loud. I was going to bring my Celinder and Skjold and plug into that Hartke 212 I mod'd with NEO speakers. Ken, you need to hear this cab!
I expect to be very impressed.
My next gig is with the blues band on the 22nd. It's not a big band or room, but it does get pretty loud. I was going to bring my Celinder and Skjold and plug into that Hartke 212 I mod'd with NEO speakers. Ken, you need to hear this cab!
I expect to be very impressed.
I actually played through that last time I was at your house. It sounded nice, and actually had that very mid punchy tone that I really like. It will be interested to AB that cab with the 1212L next Sunday. The 1212L is just so small, so light, and SO loud, and the voicing works so well in many situations. It's the last cab I'd take to a small jazz gig, where wide, pure, even tone is key, and volume/punch is not an issue. But for large, loud bands, dense mixes, big rooms, and any sort of difficult load ins, I really haven't found anything like it. It's smaller than a single NL-210. The other cool thing about the 1212L is that even though it sits quite low to the floor, I've never had a problem hearing myself, even when standing right on top of it (I assume that has a lot to do with the low mid voicing). It's a 'special use' cab for me, but there really is nothing else like it (regarding size versus volume and loud low end) that I've ever heard.
I remember your 212 sounding in a very similar tone family to my 410UL (not the volume output, of course, but that nice mid punch that I like). I liked that cab a lot!
K
The G&L is going nowhere, EVER!!! It's my favorite rock and roll bass.
The only problem I had last night was with hearing myself onstage even though I know I was crankin' loud. I blame that on my extremely loud band and the fact that the GS112s sit so low to the ground. I actually can hear myself onstage better with my Carvin BRX112neo on top of one GS112. You've heard that rig too and commented on the fact that it had alot of midrange. Too much maybe? What do you think about both rigs (A/B) even though you didn't hear them both at the same gig? I'm thinking the LMII paired with a kickass 4 ohm 410 cab would sound great.
The only problem I had last night was with hearing myself onstage even though I know I was crankin' loud. I blame that on my extremely loud band and the fact that the GS112s sit so low to the ground. I actually can hear myself onstage better with my Carvin BRX112neo on top of one GS112. You've heard that rig too and commented on the fact that it had alot of midrange. Too much maybe? What do you think about both rigs (A/B) even though you didn't hear them both at the same gig? I'm thinking the LMII paired with a kickass 4 ohm 410 cab would sound great.
Nice review Ken, im going to get a LMII tomorrow. i was going to go for the SD800 but i really dont need that sort of power and its over double the cost fo the LMII here.
Did a gig last night with my SA450 and i set the EQ up as if it was a LMII just to see if i can live without the para mid Eq and i guess i can.
I've been using my LMII for a couple months of gigs now. The punch and presence never fails to impress. The B string on my F Bass is exceptional and has plenty of headroom through a Bergie HT/EX 112 mini stack.
I've been using the LMII with DI out into a Bergie IP112/EX112the past several gigs. The IP112 power and headroom are as fine as I could possibly imagine. That said, when I use the LMII powering a regular Bergie HT112/EX112, it is equally impressive. I simply need to EQ a little different to get the low and mid punch that the Bergie IP112 offers.
Bottom line is the LMII is probably the single best value bass head I've ever owned. Gary
I've been using the LMII with DI out into a Bergie IP112/EX112the past several gigs. The IP112 power and headroom are as fine as I could possibly imagine. That said, when I use the LMII powering a regular Bergie HT112/EX112, it is equally impressive. I simply need to EQ a little different to get the low and mid punch that the Bergie IP112 offers.
Bottom line is the LMII is probably the single best value bass head I've ever owned. Gary
Like I said last night... it was because you were standing right in front of the cabs and they were firing between your legs. When I went over in front of Doc and by Bruce, it was a LOT easier to hear. Kick that top cab up like we talked about.
That's why I like that angle-front Hartke design so much!!
Here's a picture of what I was talking about... worked really nice, but then you can't really put the amp on top anymore. You could probably tuck that little thing in the middle tho...
I played at the Unifest in DC yesterday. I used the backline cab provided (SWR 410 with blown tweeter) and used my LMII with it. The feedback from several people there was that we had excellent sound and balance (they mainly heard me through FOH) and between the monitor and the stage cab I sounded great onstage... and we were cranking
Brubaker 6, LMII... deadly.
Brubaker 6, LMII... deadly.
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+1...it's amazing, I've experienced that exact same thing when playing through mine. I would have expected it to at least be a bit warm to the touch, but it's like it wasn't even on at all...
Here's a picture of what I was talking about... worked really nice, but then you can't really put the amp on top anymore. You could probably tuck that little thing in the middle tho...
Actually, as many do, if you put rubber feet and a spring loaded handle on the bottom of one of the cabs, it works perfectly. You don't have that extra piece of gear to haul (that large slant contraption), it will angle the cab up enough to help you hear, but not so much that you can't put a head on top, and it serves as a nice tilt up when you use just a single cab. it works GREAT, and doesn't cost much, and doesn't increase the schlep with an extra piece of gear. Highly recommended for these low profile cabs.
K
Yeah, I thought about this, and faked it up with some wood blocks one night. It might be enough for most folks, but the extra kickback this offered was worth it to me. I'm not down to one-trip status anyway, so the extra stand didn't affect my load-in anyway. Plus doing it this way, even if you're playing on a flatbed, or a plywood stage in a club, and jumping around, the cab can't "fall" since it's be "cradled". Admittedly, that's probably not everyone's issues, but it's been mine. I had a pair of Eden 210XLT's and I kicked the top cab back like that one night and almost lost it off the back of the stage (tho I didn't have rubber feet bolted on... so that was a big part of the problem... the stacking corners not locking together became part of the problem on that one).
Good point tho!
I'm looking into the spring-loaded handle. I played this Sunday with a 1x12 and my LMII. I have used the cover under the cab before, but it's a little precarious so I didn't do it. I really miss these handles that were on my EA cabs. I'm gonna check out one of these stands and the handles. I'll probably go with the handle on one cab - for use alone or to angle while on top of another cab.
Any good suggestions for the hardware? (feet and handle)
Like Ken says, the key to this solution is the rubber feet. Once you kick that top cab back, the stacking corners actually work against you, not for you. You want some fairly large feet with integral steel reinforcements. Check the link below... feet like the ones in the link below work great, I've used them on various things and they're very similar to what came with my Epifani caster conversion kit...
Check this link.
Has this been mentioned yet.
Might not be the cheapest option though.
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By the way, i just picked up my LMII. wont get to use it untill Sat but im really looking forward to seeing the bands reaction when i turn up with it.
Soundwise im sure it will sound the same as my SA450
Might not be the cheapest option though.
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By the way, i just picked up my LMII. wont get to use it untill Sat but im really looking forward to seeing the bands reaction when i turn up with it.
Soundwise im sure it will sound the same as my SA450
Thanks Vic. You're definitely right about the stacking corners. I about lost a cab with the tilt handle that didn't have the rubber feet. Leaning towards this route.
The Mark Stand would probably take up less space (I'm down to one trip). Looks like it folds too. Is there velcro on it to complete the triangle? How much is that jewel?
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