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As a collector of vintage radios, my father bought one of those huge Zenith radios some years ago at a yard sale, It had surprisingly good sound for a 50 year old radio that was as much a piece of finely crafted furniture as it was a radio. Very beautiful woodwork.
 
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Muddslide said:
I know I'm gonna sound like a crochety old man here, but I don't mean to.

I am so glad we have the internet and other forms of instantaneous media. Anyone can sit in their home and write, record and release an album, write and publish a book, mae films for all to see across the globe. It's a wonderful thing.

But I do sort of miss the paradigm I grew up with from the 60s-80s. I mean, I guess I am glad I grew up without all these things, so I know what both sides are like.

When I was a kid, we didn't have video games, didn't have 600 TV channels (in fact we had 5, and no remote!), didn;t have access to countless albums and movies to download and watch on a laptop or phone. Heck, we didn't have cell phones either.

Anyway, I'm not unhappy that these things exist. I use them myself-they are fun and convenient. I'm not stuck in the past. I don't feel like the collapse of the planet is looming because of these technologies.

But there was something about the era preceding the computer age that was special and I think has been lost.

I remember waitig until Friday rolled around because the only TV I cared about came on Friday nights and weekends. Twilight Zone and Night Gallery reruns, Friday Night Creature Feature where they'd show a couple of old horror/monster movies with a cheesy local horror host guy, watching Kung Fu movies on Saturday mornings...

No VCRs or DVD players...you had to actually go see a film in the theater.

When it came to music, especially when I got into punk rock in the late 70s, early 80s, we had zines and word of mouth. Underground music was like a club sort of. No CDs either, so you'd go to the record store and lok through the vinyl, find something interesting. I remember seeing a 7" ep by The Residents and thinking "What the...?" and getting it just based on how odd it looked. No way of knowing what laid in the grooves.

I remember going to the local record store in Tulsa, which was right next door to the local head shop (and owned by the same folks) and buying both Minutemen's Double Nickels on the Dime and Husker Du's Zen Arcade--two double albums--on the same day. On vinyl. Then going home and making tapes of them to preserve the vinyl.

Before that, I remember when I'd buy a KISS album. Big artwork, the new record smell...they used to cram all kinds of cool stuff in KISS albums--rub-on tattoos, iron-on t-shirt art, posters...anyone remember the pop gun that came in copies of the Love Gun album?

I guess I just feel it's a double-edged sword. We get so much from having instant access to art and information and other people across the world, but that instant gratification kind of makes things seem a llittle less precious in some ways.

To me at least.
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Most excellent post. I'm 48, and I'm glad to have had the best of both worlds, too.
 
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C.Linton said:
As a collector of vintage radios, my father bought one of those huge Zenith radios some years ago at a yard sale, It had surprisingly good sound for a 50 year old radio that was as much a piece of finely crafted furniture as it was a radio. Very beautiful woodwork.
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I have a date-unknown (but heavily Art Deco style'd) Magnavox table-top 'receiver' (AM, FM, Phono, and Aux) that still functions perfectly and sounds fantastic!
 
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Muddslide said:
I know I'm gonna sound like a crochety old man here, but I don't mean to.

I am so glad we have the internet and other forms of instantaneous media. Anyone can sit in their home and write, record and release an album, write and publish a book, mae films for all to see across the globe. It's a wonderful thing.

But I do sort of miss the paradigm I grew up with from the 60s-80s. I mean, I guess I am glad I grew up without all these things, so I know what both sides are like.

When I was a kid, we didn't have video games, didn't have 600 TV channels (in fact we had 5, and no remote!), didn;t have access to countless albums and movies to download and watch on a laptop or phone. Heck, we didn't have cell phones either.

Anyway, I'm not unhappy that these things exist. I use them myself-they are fun and convenient. I'm not stuck in the past. I don't feel like the collapse of the planet is looming because of these technologies.

But there was something about the era preceding the computer age that was special and I think has been lost.

I remember waitig until Friday rolled around because the only TV I cared about came on Friday nights and weekends. Twilight Zone and Night Gallery reruns, Friday Night Creature Feature where they'd show a couple of old horror/monster movies with a cheesy local horror host guy, watching Kung Fu movies on Saturday mornings...

No VCRs or DVD players...you had to actually go see a film in the theater.

When it came to music, especially when I got into punk rock in the late 70s, early 80s, we had zines and word of mouth. Underground music was like a club sort of. No CDs either, so you'd go to the record store and lok through the vinyl, find something interesting. I remember seeing a 7" ep by The Residents and thinking "What the...?" and getting it just based on how odd it looked. No way of knowing what laid in the grooves.

I remember going to the local record store in Tulsa, which was right next door to the local head shop (and owned by the same folks) and buying both Minutemen's Double Nickels on the Dime and Husker Du's Zen Arcade--two double albums--on the same day. On vinyl. Then going home and making tapes of them to preserve the vinyl.

Before that, I remember when I'd buy a KISS album. Big artwork, the new record smell...they used to cram all kinds of cool stuff in KISS albums--rub-on tattoos, iron-on t-shirt art, posters...anyone remember the pop gun that came in copies of the Love Gun album?

I guess I just feel it's a double-edged sword. We get so much from having instant access to art and information and other people across the world, but that instant gratification kind of makes things seem a llittle less precious in some ways.

To me at least.
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+1. My first Residents EP was Residents Stars and Hank Forever that I bought for that exact same reason. I had never seen anything like it and it just looked weird. I think now I have like 12 of their albums. I also bought Rudimentary Peni, and Septic Death because of their covers. I think the Septic Death cover was done by Pushead.
 
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sleepytime said:
I went the opposite way--regular old shaving cream with a safety razor and double edge blades. I suppose I'll get some soap and a brush and mug, just for the atavistic pleasure of it all.
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I've been using a straight edge I bought back around '83. Sometimes tasks that can be nothing but daily drudgery can be spiced up and made interesting... besides, making sure you have the right kind of edge on that blade so you aren't easily cut really gives you a rush and wakes you up in th a.m.!;)
 
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sleepytime said:
I think he died years after the scandal. And I don't think Milli Vanilli were actually busted by a skipping track or anything like that, it just became known that they were lip-syncing at shows and overdubbing on CDs. They were quickly dubbed Phoney Baloney, their Grammy was taken away, and they were through almost literally overnight.

They were ahead of their time 25 years ago or whatever it was. Today's generation doesn't seem to have a problem with backing track and lip-syncing shows. It's all about image.
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The first sign that the group was lip-synching happened in late 1989 during a live performance on MTV at the Lake Compounce theme park in Bristol, Connecticut. As they performed onstage live in front of an audience, the recording of the song "Girl You Know It's True" jammed and began to skip, repeating the partial line "Girl, you know it's…" over and over on the speakers. They continued to pretend to sing and dance onstage for a few more moments, then they both ran offstage. According to the episode of VH1's Behind the Music which profiled Milli Vanilli, Downtown Julie Brown stated that fans attending the concert didn't seem to care or even notice and the concert continued as if nothing unusual had happened.

Unlike the international release of All or Nothing, the inserts for the American version clearly attributed the voices on the album to Morvan and Pilatus. This prompted Shaw to disclose to New York Newsday writer John Leland in December 1989 that he was one of three singers on Milli Vanilli's hit debut album, and that Pilatus and Morvan were impostors. Farian reportedly paid Shaw $150,000 to retract his statements, though this did not stem the tide of public criticism.[3] Because of rising public questions regarding the source of who actually sang in the group, as well as the insistence of Morvan and Pilatus to Farian that they be allowed to sing on the next album, Farian confessed to reporters on November 12, 1990, that Morvan and Pilatus did not actually sing on the records. As a result of American media pressure, Milli Vanilli's Grammy was withdrawn four days later (however, their three American Music Awards were never withdrawn because the organizers felt the awards were given to them by music consumers),[4] and Arista Records dropped the act from its roster and deleted their album and its masters from their catalog, taking Girl You Know It's True out of print.

After these details emerged, at least 26 different lawsuits[5] were filed under various U.S. consumer fraud protection laws[6] against Pilatus, Morvan and Arista Records. One such filing occurred on November 22, 1990 in Ohio, where lawyers there filed a class action lawsuit asking for refunds on behalf of a local woman in Cuyahoga County who had bought Girl You Know It's True; at the time the lawsuit was filed, it was estimated at least 1,000 Ohio residents had bought the album.[6] On August 12, 1991, a proposed settlement to a refund lawsuit in Chicago, Illinois was rejected. This settlement would have refunded buyers of Milli Vanilli CDs, cassettes, records, or singles. However, the refunds would only be given as a credit for a future Arista release.[5] On August 28, a new settlement was approved; it refunded those who attended concerts along with those who bought Milli Vanilli recordings.[7] An estimated 10 million buyers were eligible to claim a refund and they could keep the refunded recordings as well.[7] The deadline to claim refunds passed on March 8, 1992.[8]
 
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Richland123 said:
Naugahyde Nauga monster

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Kustom amps used to be made with tuck and roll Naugahyde. I had a a blue sparkle Naugahyde Kustom 150 bass amp.

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I had that cabinet only mine was Black the head was sold before I got it so I had to use another head to run it but, it was a great cabinet. traded it in towards a SVT stack back in the 70's
 
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ShredderMaximus said:
I got a 70's *adult film* one time and was confused at why all the women seemed to all these poor afroed black children in headlocks with their legs, I sure am happy that we live in a world where racist exploitation like this is no longer socially acceptable!
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I didn't know this movie had a pool chicken fight, is she riding Tito Jackson's shoulders? :D
 
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