• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Tell me about the Mic you use to record bass

In my personal home studio, 90% of the time it's a Heil PR-40 moving coil dynamic mic up fairly tight on the speaker grill.
The other 10% of the time -- when I'm looking for a bit more "air" (or "hair") in the sound -- it's an MXL 2001P condenser mic with the Dave Royer/Mojave Audio tube electronics mod, sitting between 1-3' away from the speaker.

In anyone else's studio, it depends on their mic locker. Favorites include the Electro-Voice RE20, Sennheiser MD421, Neumann TLM-170i, and RCA 44-BX.

Big gig rained out!! 😞

The venues and concert goers are just ready for rain? I get that. But SF Bay Area having heat at 110+ is something I did not know about! That is dangerous to be out in, unless you are wearing the right clothes and have plenty of water.
well, just to be clear, I'm talking about the East Bay and Central Valley where temps of a 100 and over are not uncommon during the summer. One summer we hit 115 (!) and I had a big festival gig that cancelled all outside performances due to the heat. It was a big winery and they moved at least some of the music into their big cool barrel room.

Right in SF and right around the Bay generally stay pretty reasonable temp wise.
  • Like
Reactions: HolmeBass

Would a Stingray HH sound like a Stingray H with the bridge pickup soloed?

To make sure I wasn’t going crazy, I did this exactly last night. I changed the pick guard out, removed the neck humbucker. I did swap the wiring to the H setup (the preamp board has dedicated pads for the pickups and switch being in HH or H mode)

Sounded the same but I stopped mucking around with the slider as much. Weirdly, that removing off options makes me play better

H/S/H pickup ideas

And so... I found an Ibanez from I believe the early 90's; an RT 450, which includes a traditional non-floating tremolo (no locking nut), but the body and layout are shredder-esque like their RG's. Wonderful fit for me! The super-solid Japanese craftsmanship and great ergonomics sold me on this instrument without even plugging it into an amp before I took it home.

I recently dropped a set of DiMarzios into a Godin Session - a basic "fat strat" with a humbucker at the bridge - and I expected some subtle bumps in the sound quality from that guitar with the swap. But what I got was a profound improvement - I even like what I get with the middle pickup solo'ed... that's a first for me.

The new pickups in the Godin are Area 61's and an Air Classic at the bridge - not ultra high output, but rich and yummy in that particular guitar.

If anybody has successfully dabbled with higher output DiMazios or options from other labels in a H/S/H layout, I'm looking forward to any stories you can share. I also have an old Japanese Electra Phoenix that has what are probably a pair of DiMario Super Distrortions for pickups. They sound unbelievably good and I may go that way with this RT 450 (along with a suitable S in the middle). Many of us have our favorites, so I'm looking for input.

TIA

Double Bass Hearing aid advice

As a musician, I do have to say that I have not found an ideal all-the-time setting combination that duplicates tone properly. The instruments I play all sound at least a little different than what I perceive without the hearing aids, and that is a little off-putting. There are times that I simply turn them off or take them out of my ears while playing music...

And, that raises some interesting questions about sound perception that is important for musicians. What is compleely accurate hearing where tone is concerned? Are these differences in musical tone that I hear with the hearing aids tones that people with "normal" hearing hear? And, does "normal" hearing really exist? Possibly these are questions for another lifetime :D .
To the first point: If the instrument sounds the same whether you are using hearing aids or not, then you don't need hearing aids. It's not just a matter of amplification.
I don't think many people lose hearing equally across the whole audio spectrum, so properly-tuned hearing aids should restore the frequencies you have lost. Wearing hearing aids for the first time can be unpleasantly "crispy," but it's more accurate than the way you WERE hearing. However, some hearing aids are better for musicians than others! For that reason, I returned one set at Costco in order to get the Sennheisers, and I'm happy.

Second point: I doubt that there's such a thing as "completely accurate" when it comes to hearing. Even measurement/calibration microphones in laboratories have biases which probably don't match what an "excellent hearer" might experience. Yes, there may be a few gifted individuals who approach the ideal, whatever that is. For most of us, better is all we can reasonably ask for.
For the most part, communication with my family and friends has noticeably improved. Among other things, my wife doesn't have to yell at me because I can't hear her anymore, although sometimes she does still yell at me ::D .
This is IMPORTANT. Happy wife, happy life.

Double Bass Increase (acoustic) volume of double bass

That is a raised saddle. It is used to take pressure from the top. Mostly helpful for strings that choke the vibration of the top with too much pressure (typically with older instruments that were built for lower tension gut strings and be used with higher tension steel core strings now).
If your bass sounds better strings tuned down one to several halftones after as bout a week this is for you (or use lower tension strings). Be warned that volume can be reduced, specially if you instrument is not choked by top pressure.

I have an adjustable saddle (Moser HVU) on my instrument with three positions, all higher than the normal saddle height.
The only thing is that you need to use the kevlar/carbon fiber tailgut it comes with.
I did knot it with a slip to be able to adjust the underlength. Slips were secured. It would be impossible to open the knot without the slip and even hard with it. But since the material stretched under tension you need to adjust your first try.

With a single height saddle you can use what you want as tailgut.
You can try a aircraft cable with the Moser HVU, but it might not be possible to find a place for the clamp. (My knot is under the tailpiece.)

Finger Protectors

So I was browsing eBay and came upon a most curious lot, composed of what appeared to be a half finished bass guitar (“burning fire” style to him), and two books, one of which was the school band oriented Essential Elements series. Then I saw these guys, listed as “finger protectors:

IMG_0198.webp


I looked these up and apparently these are finger protectors. I thought I had never heard of them until I realized that Gorilla Tips, which I see constantly on the Alfred publishing page.

I read the product description, and I’m still not sure about their use. Are they are good for anything? Are they commonly found in one genre or another? Are they a beginner only thing? Wouldn’t this greatly affect the tone? Would you be laughed out of an audition if you showed up wearing these?

Inquiring minds……

4ohm amp with an 8amp cab..OK?

Thanks guys..big help....
One thought:

I have two cabs that are 8 ohms as well as two different heads - both heads require a 4 ohm minimum load. This is great for me because I can use only one cab in a setting that doesn't need a lot of volume, but I can add the other cab and still give either amp a necessary 4 ohm load like that. The flexibility is terrific for me.

I don't worry about having a cab that matches the 4 ohm minimum of my amp so that I can theoretically "get the most performance" from it or anything like that. Either cab will make good sound in a small setting or practice. If I need a lot of volume potential, I just bring the second cab so that I can effectively shake more air.

As our pals laid out above, it seems like you're good to go now. If you eventually want to make bigger sound, you might be able to do that by adding a second cab that's also 8 ohms, but it's hard to say without knowing more specifics with your particular amp and cab.
  • Like
Reactions: Wasnex

Rattle Can Refinish Club

Anybody found a really good hard drying clearcoat? I’ve tried a couple of the water borne variants, but they didn’t dry any harder than Nitro IME. I’ve thought about Spraymax 2k, but the toxicity warnings are pretty daunting. I have a project approaching paint ready, and want to paint it British Racing Green. Any suggestions for the color and clear coats known to be compatible much appreciated.
As long as you have a protective respirator and gloves, you should be OK using Spraymax. I spray outside, so there's no chance of lingering fumes in an enclosed space. Dries hard and is ready for sanding/polish in about a week (or less, depending on who you ask). I've been using it over automotive paints as well Rust-Oleum with no issues.
  • Like
Reactions: Gilmourisgod

Black accent layer for body to top wood

When I was doing violin bow repairs I used a lot of this stuff. You would have to piece it together but it does make a nice strong black line. In my bass builds I always have used wenge veneer, but it's not quite dead black.
Allied Lutherie carries the same stuff in larger sheets as well:
Fiber Sheets

Though it's not quite as cost effective as the black dyed veneer sheets from Roarockit. :thumbsup:
  • Like
Reactions: Gary_M

Will Lee / World's Most Dangerous Band recordings?

It would be interesting to know what the status of some of the archive stuff is, because rights issues come into play. It's possible some songs were erased after a certain point because the rights to use them ran out. Between 1983 and 1993 CBC in Canada had a weekday video show called Video Hits, which did pretty much what the title implies, played music videos. When the 40th anniversary of the show occurred CBC had a brief article about it, and noted that all episodes of the show had been erased because the airing rights to the videos had expired.

Latest Classifieds

w/Mono Case, 7.5lbs!
$1,850.00
7 watching
Location
Connecticut, United States
Brand new and unopened. I'll ship to you one pack for $28 total
$28.00
2 watching
Location
Austin Texas, United States
Greetings Tb, Up for sale is a package deal of broughton royal MK filter preamp and Studio boost mini. Both in excellent condition only used in my...
$300.00
2 watching
Location
San Diego California, United States
Fender Custom Shop ’60s Jazz Bass Pickups Genuine Fender Custom Shop ‘60s Jazz Bass pickup set in good working condition. Neck and bridge set...
$165.00
Location
Shreveport Louisiana, United States
PA
$80.00
Location
Palmerton Pennsylvania, United States 18071

Filter