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Old School vs. New School Amplification

#301
Gab124 said:
Totally agree, but some newer amps can get some quality grit on the front end, but the power section may be different, though GB gets some good sag from their design.
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Agreed.

The Shuttle 9.0 can get some really warm gooey overdrive, the tone (to me) was identical to my coveted OCDV3, I ended up selling the OCD because the Shuttle covers this ground. Especially with the 1955 Mullard ECC83 in there. I got that tube from Charlie Kittleson a few years before he passed away. I purchased 6 of them NOS NIB.
 
#302
Red Planet said:
Agreed.

The Shuttle 9.0 can get some really warm gooey overdrive, the tone (to me) was identical to my coveted OCDV3, I ended up selling the OCD because the Shuttle covers this ground. Especially with the 1955 Mullard ECC83 in there. I got that tube from Charlie Kittleson a few years before he passed away. I purchased 6 of them NOS NIB.
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I know if I push the pre on my 9.0 it will get fuzzy, but I'm worried that I will shorten the life of that one tube too much, so I use a Pork Loin for my OD needs. These Shuttles are like gold now that Fender has effectively destroyed GB. I have to treat mine nice.
 
#303
Shuttles AND Streamliners. I love my Streamliiner 900. It's not going anywhere - it gets me 95% of the way to the vintage sound that were talking about and my back is well worth the other 5%. I run 3 vintage RCA 7025's in mine and it is impressive as heck. The sad fact is that 99% of the crowd we play to won't hear the difference between a vintage sled amp and one of the newer class D heads that were discussing here, but it is the kind of thing that we are going to obsess over! And there is nothing wrong with that. I love SVT's and 8X10 fridges! That is THE classic rock sound. I just dont feel like schlepping around 220lbs of gear to impress the 1% of the crowd that can tell the difference between that and my 58lb total weight Genz rig!
 
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#305
jazztonebass said:
How the thread turned into several pages of amp gut shots is a mystery to me. I suppose threads take on lives of their own and that is fine. This is, after all, a public forum.

It deserves to be pointed out however that returning to hand wired, PTP, all tube amps was never an option I was even remotely considering.
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Quoted for emphasis, since you are the original poster of this thread and have gracefully tolerated so much off-topic diversion. In my own case, for the foreseeable future I'd extend that to all-tube bass amps of any construction. Great tools for a different job than mine. Link Removed
 
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#307
FFTT said:
Forgive me, but if this thread had been titled Advances In Solid State Bass Amplification, you wouldn't have heard a peep out of me.
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The original post referenced a partly tube preamp, so I don't think you were out of line at all, except maybe for all the guitar stuff. I love tubes for guitar stuff though...Link Removed
 
#308
eyeballkid said:
That I don't know.. feel free to pm me a link.
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Haha, it was actually a joke about Alexander Dumble, who has been known to make players sign contracts not to open their amps when they need servicing. He did an instructional video with a guy named Henry Kaiser, who's this really bad guitarist who hides behind the pretense of being original. In the video, Kaiser asks Dumble why tube amps sound so good, and Dumble gives the vacuum and crystal lattice answer.
 
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#311
FFTT said:
...million dollar studios who were tearing their hair out trying to replicate every detail of the Abbey Road signal chain, the studio gear, tape decks, the amps, speakers, the guitars, the mics etc.

Beyond not having the Beatles to work with, the first mistake was trying to replicate that sound with discrete solo tracks.
The other thing they missed was that early on, the Beatles guitars were most likely outfitted with flat wound strings.
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That's why I use flat wound tubes in my amp. I got the AR sound down. :)
 
#312
I wish I could find the TGP thread where I jokingly suggested Howard used Goo to cover up the Tube Screamer he soldered into a Fender circuit :)

The funniest Dumble thread meltdown ever was the blind tone quality test where Dumble owners submitted clips of their rigs only to pick a Hiwatt as the best sounding amp.
 
#313
I got tired of all the Dumble and Dumble like threads at TGP.
My Bass tone seems to be fairing well inside a Crystal Lattice and outside one as well.
Come to think of it my guitar tone does too.
 
#314
FFTT said:
I wish I could find the TGP thread where I jokingly suggested Howard used Goo to cover up the Tube Screamer he soldered into a Fender circuit :)

The funniest Dumble thread meltdown ever was the blind tone quality test where Dumble owners submitted clips of their rigs only to pick a Hiwatt as the best sounding amp.
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yeah buddy ! the first time i heard the HiWatt DR201 i said > i gots to have one , i gots to have one ! of course the speakers he has are also part of the sound.
 
#317
Bob Lee (QSC) said:
Not true.
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well Bob IMO the old QSC Series 3 amps are the finest transistor amps ever. I have about 50 of them. 3800,3500,3350,and one 3200. in the foto you can see the 3500 and 3350 that power this triamped stack. the 3500 is in bridged mono power the 15" Ciare woofer. half of the 3350 power the Ciare 10" and the other half power the Radian compression driver. QSC did real good when they designed the series 3. they are so good that most people that have them keep them. the sound imo is audiophile quailty.
 
#319
LowEZ said:
Some enjoy a lead sled that's clipping a wee bit (some do it better than others of course). SMPS amps just shut down and if they don't, they generally sound awful when they start to clip.
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No, it depends on what the amp actually does when it clips, not on the broad types of power supply.
 
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