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Nice, saw these on the Amps subforum. Actually pretty cool. Liked the demo video a lot. Normally Orange's bass amps don't do much for me.
Saw Blackwitch Pudding for the first time last night, along with Goya. Them wizards had some nice heavy tones coming outta their jetglo ricks through their wall o' Hovercrafts. Lots of friends out, saw pretty much everyone who said they were gonna come to the Tuesday night Hex Volt / Eagle Claw show but didn't
so it was nice to be able to offer forgiveness and absolution and tell them when to hear HV next. Good show, good times.
We're playing with Blackwitch Pudding in a week, actually. At the Hemlock. Should be cool.
Got home last night and around midnight got a flurry of knocks on the door I tell people not to use, causing me to go into oh **** mode... My friend had just been mugged of his possessions and phone and came by and didn't want to be alone so I went out and drank til 7am with them, woke up at 11 and walked several miles home.
Good on you for not just pretending not to be home and hangin with him.
Yeah it looked like this.
The color is kinda off there but it's a solid vagina-pink.
I'd play it. Except that generally Ibanez's electronics are not my thing.
I keep forgetting ricks are 33.5" scale. Even with that variable I'd think you need to go heavy like a .135 for the low C. .120 may be a little limp. I was trying .118, .120 and .124 balanced sets with Circle K for a while and after trying the D'Addario EXP .130 it didn't feel floppy any more in BEAD. Now they are hex core so a little higher tension. I was figuring low tension equals less fatigue, but not the case. Nickle allergy sucks, my stepson has bad metal allergy's.
33.25" scale, actually.
I use a .130 low B, but I'm also using a 34" scale bass for BEAD tuning.
anyone that claims vinyl sounds better because it is analog an has better dynamics is full of shvt. That may be true for vinyl pressed 20 or more years ago, but anything in the last 20 years not analog. To have true analog sound the original source material has to be recorded on tape. Hardly anyone records on tape anymore. It is too expensive, to difficult and not enough people have the skills to do it properly. Pretty much all music today is recorded on some form of computer and digitized. The pressing plant gets the tracks on CD or uncompressed audio files. They then take the digital audio run it through their DAC and convert it to analog and press the vinyl. The only difference between CD an vinyl is who does the convrsion from digital. with vinyl it is the pressing plant, with CD it is your CD player. Any differences in sound have nothing to do with the medium itself. Instead the mastering on vinyl is different (or shoud be) than the CD version. typically the bass and treble are rolled off and the overall volume is lowered. Then there are the other factors in the chain, like your cartridge, tonearm and phono preamp. each piece will affect the sound and none of these are in your CD chain. even reissues of classic albums are no longer analog. it is very rare that a label will give anyone access to the master tapes. most major label libraries have been digitized anyone wanting the rights to reissue an album will get a CD and not the tape.
Actually some people do record to tape. Not many do it, but I think Albini has his studio set up for that, and Primordial seem to have recorded the last few albums of theirs that way.
I wanted to shoot a quick doom room poll. What do you guys think about the Mesa Prodigy/Strategy amps? Do you think the Prodigy is loud enough for most doom? Or is the Mesa tone a little to upper mid rangy? I am investigating one of these to replace my 4 pro. I am a little hesitant to go with the strategy as I could buy a whole new amp for the cost of a retube but if the 250w prodigy isn't enough then I guess I will just have to buy tubes over time.
I love the Strategy, myself. Planning on getting one eventually to replace my D-180 (though I'd keep the D-180 as a backup). Not a fan of the Prodigy. Too polite sounding, too much sparkly high end. Either is more powerful than my current amp, though.
That said, if you're maxing out a 4 pro, even a really powerful tube amp will not do it for you in terms of volume. Are you sure your head isn't broken? Are you cranking the gain? You should be cranking the gain.
It certainly is not an EQ problem as I cut the low lows and keep the low boost switch off. I generally push the low mids and upper mids. As far as cabs go, I am using either an 810e or a Sunn 215 with a BW and a legend in it. I primarily use the 810 for gigs though. Either way, with one cab or both I have the same issue. It is never loud enough and the limiter is constantly on or flashing. I actually think there is something wrong with the amp itself as the limiter light just will not stay off, even with both the gain and master at noon. I used to have a 3 pro and felt like it was hugely overrated in terms of power and somewhat bland tonally. When I had the opportunity to grab this 4 pro for cheap I was hesitant because of my experience with the 3 pro. I had heard countless people speak of its insane volume and I figured I could work around the tone if it had the balls I was looking for. So far I have been completely unimpressed. The amp really is just a bigger heavier 3 pro, same overrated power section and the same bland tone. The amp does not even stress my speakers in the slightest way.
Maybe the mesa isn't the option for me. I definitely would like to try one in person, but in the great fly over state of Missouri, there isn't anyplace that carries the prodigy/strategy. Maybe a pre/power rig with a stupid powerful poweramp is the solution.
Crank the gain on that 4 pro. Ignore all clip lights on Ampegs. When I had an SS Ampeg, I ignored the clip light and the limiter light, and it sounded fine and worked without issues.
Not a fan of the pickups, but that's awesome.
I will have to do some research. My understanding is that the limiter is there to keep issues from happening. Kind of like a soft clip compression. If it is anything like Peavey's DDT then it should be fine to ride it.
Fwiw, when I use my Mark VIII I see the DDT light a fair bit.
Yeah, it's not really a problem if the limiter light comes on, on Ampegs, in my experience.
